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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: billy on February 26, 2010, 02:14:09 pm

Title: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: billy on February 26, 2010, 02:14:09 pm
Since the flintknapping challenge seems to have kinda fizzled out, I thought I'd grab it by the horns, give it a good shake, and resurrect this fun part of the flintknapping challenge.  Since I'm an arrow point nut, I figured we could make this one a bit more open.  Make an arrow point, whatever kind you like and post a pic of it.  You like Cahokia points?  Then knap a few and post 'em. How about side notched points?  They have a place here too.  Clunky or refined, crude or exquisite, we want to see everybody's work.  Some people on here are intimidated by other knappers, feeling their work isn't up to par with what other, more experienced knappers produce.  Well....DON'T BE!! 

Wherever your favorite arrow points are found....western or eastern, northern or southern, if you like it and it is considered an arrow point, then make it and post it here!

I'm gonna start this one off with some Gunther barbed points I made, as well as one Perdiz point. As a lot of my true arrow points reflect, these are kinda "abo" looking, with some asymmetry and a kinda "rough" appearance.  These were made on small waste flakes that would have otherwise been thrown away.  Enjoy...now get to knapping!     

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Post by: boo on February 26, 2010, 02:20:36 pm
Wish i could do that. Maybe someday. Love that largest one in the center Billy, great job.
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Post by: jamie on February 26, 2010, 02:33:32 pm
great work bill. wheres the proton sized reference.  ;D ive been ruining rock cause after watching marty on you tube ive been trying to master getting clovis points nocked out. not breaking em i just cant figure out when to flute without having to clean up the edge and removing the flute at the same time. peace
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: mullet on February 26, 2010, 06:16:22 pm
 Nice points, Billy. I really like that style. Looking forward to seeing everybodies points. Wish I could play.
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: billy on February 26, 2010, 06:50:07 pm
hahaha...yeah, sorry bout that jamie.  I realized afterward that I didn't have a flea sitting next to the points so you could tell how big....uh...I mean... how small they were! 
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Post by: sailordad on February 26, 2010, 07:21:31 pm
billy, i was just thinking the other day "what ever happened to the point of the month challenge"
glad im not the only one whos been missing it ;)

nice points too, by the way

that top left point,is that mookite jasper?
i like the looks of that one
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Post by: Timo on February 27, 2010, 12:03:54 am
 Nice group of points.slowly getting my swing back. :-\ Gonna try to do this one.
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Post by: jamie on February 27, 2010, 03:54:47 pm
im amazed that trying to make an average sized hunting point was so damn hard to do today. ive gotten so accustomed to larger blades i had a bear of a time keeping this one clean. its my version of a levanna. i just notch em so i dont have to repeatedly wrap the head. the levanna is the northeastern version of a late woodlands triangle so its what ive come to use.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/knapping/001-10.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/coyotebow/knapping/004-8.jpg)
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Post by: venisonburger on February 27, 2010, 09:18:35 pm
Wow Jamie that's some beautiful rock
VB
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: Timo on February 27, 2010, 09:21:15 pm
Cool rock Jamie! Nice and thin also.

Got a few made today, but my usb port is down. Can't upload. :'(
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2010, 08:49:22 am
Great point jamie and some purty rock also :)
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Post by: Timo on February 28, 2010, 09:56:02 am
Got my usb working this morning.  material  lft to rt: raw burlington,cooked burlington, Bowling green.

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Post by: jamie on February 28, 2010, 10:40:53 am
great work tim, im diggin that purpleish stone.
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Post by: sailordad on February 28, 2010, 02:55:26 pm
well heres mine,i made these yesterday late morning.
i havent been doing much knapping as of late since just before vacation a few weeks ago
been having some family stuff to do deal with,but thats better now so i found time to sit again and try these
the one is talahata the other is peacock obsidion.
the photo does not do the obsid one justice.its got cool colors to it

(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9954/1001566m.jpg)
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2010, 03:18:25 pm
Nice points Tim that Talahatta is fun eh :)
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Post by: DanaM on February 28, 2010, 05:11:17 pm
I stayed with the Gunther theme this one is made from a chunk of god knows what that was in the bottom of the bucket.
Not sure if gunter's were this big but it looks cool 8)

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Post by: brownhillboy on February 28, 2010, 07:33:13 pm
I decided to post this pic just to encourage the people that stink at flintknapping like me to still post some pics! ::)  Billy said to post even if it's crude, and I would say mine qualifies for that!LOL  This point started off much larger, but when I was trying to notch it, I broke off about 2/3 of the bottom. >:(  So, I decided I might as well keep chipping away until I get something.  I guess you would call it a bird point, even though I saw in the magazine where Billy showed they could be effective on deer sized game as well.  Anyway, here it is and it weighs 26 grains.

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Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: jamie on February 28, 2010, 09:58:13 pm
very nice work gentlemen. i gotta get some of that tallahatta and give it a shot.
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: sailordad on February 28, 2010, 11:04:56 pm
ya i like the talahata myself ;D

you just gotta rememeber to swing hard
i place the piece on my left leg and swing untill i hit the inside of my right thigh ;)
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: Bone pile on March 01, 2010, 04:04:46 pm
Well yesterday warmed up alittle out on the rockpile so I grabbed my pressure flacker and hit the chips
(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk33/Bonepile/arrapts003.jpg)
I forgot to put in a size referance,the small purple burlinton point will fit on a nickel
Chips ahoy
Bone pile
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: DanaM on March 01, 2010, 07:40:33 pm
Nice stuff Roger :) So hows the turd herding going down der in florida going? Been rough in my plant lately breakdowns left and right :'(
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Post by: jamie on March 02, 2010, 07:10:32 am
wow roger those look great. i gotta start making small stuff again.
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Post by: Bone pile on March 02, 2010, 10:07:30 am
Yeah I haven't made any small ones in awhile,need to make some more and haft them up.Dana,thet have me working on a Pretreatment program now but I still work at the plants when a cheif takes a vacation etc. A Doctor of DoDo always ;D
Bone pile
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: jamie on March 02, 2010, 10:27:54 am
roger those little points make my head spin. gotta walk away occassionally or i will get a head ache from staring at each little platform.  ;D its wierd but once i get used to working em it stops.
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: cowboy on March 02, 2010, 12:19:03 pm
Good one's all. Here's an old picture..

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Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: cowboy on March 02, 2010, 12:21:12 pm
That's cheating I know ;D. In the office right now, not much time. I'll see if I can actually knap something out this week sometime..
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: jamie on March 02, 2010, 12:33:30 pm
WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: mullet on March 02, 2010, 07:54:47 pm
 Holey Crap, Paul.
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: jthompson1995 on March 02, 2010, 08:04:38 pm
Very nice Paul. But if I can make one small suggestion, hide the broken ones farther down in the pile, don't put them right on top for everyone to see.  ;) ;D

I'm just yanking your chain of course, I've never knapped anything and you've got some serious talent there.
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: Timo on March 02, 2010, 08:42:16 pm
Looks like one of the Cahokia mounds after excavating! :o
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: cowboy on March 02, 2010, 09:55:30 pm
Ya'll are lookin at the evolution of this knapper. Notice the short stubby notches on a bunch of them. Most of em are gone now in trades or just given away - I'm gonna git back after it one of these days :).
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: ricktrojanowski on March 02, 2010, 10:09:44 pm
 :o That is some serious ammo.
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: VenomBOWslinger on March 03, 2010, 06:11:38 am
Wow is right I have been off from knapping but will be back soon... To all who posted pic great job real nice points!  I am out of rock and snow too deap waiting for something come in the mail hopefully!!!

Russ
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: Outbackbob48 on March 03, 2010, 02:50:02 pm
Finally got above 32 degrees and an sunshine for a change. I thought I might try an knock the rust off an get a point if lucky. Been savin this pc of Sonora for just such a day. Here's my attempt , tryed to really pay attention to my notches an they came out a little better than my usual. Thanks for looking Bob

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Post by: Outbackbob48 on March 03, 2010, 03:06:49 pm
Some how I only came up with one picture, darn puters are way to confusing for this ole duffer ;D  Bob

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Post by: mullet on March 03, 2010, 05:08:01 pm
  Real nice, Bob. That Sonora is some nice rock. I'm getting some sliced up right now.
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Post by: jamie on March 03, 2010, 05:50:31 pm
thats a beauty
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: cowboy on March 05, 2010, 11:15:30 am
That's a goodun! Nice flake scars, symmetry, median ridge - aughta make some meat...
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Post by: brownhillboy on March 05, 2010, 11:43:07 am
Beautiful point!  Great job! :)
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Post by: ricktrojanowski on March 05, 2010, 11:02:41 pm
Here are a couple that I managed to get out of some waste flakes.  The bigger one is some Flint from TX (I think), the smaller one is Dacite.  They are pretty thick and ugly, but at least I had some time to chip. :)

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Post by: jamie on March 05, 2010, 11:06:55 pm
nice work rick. ya done good
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Post by: Outbackbob48 on March 05, 2010, 11:11:39 pm
Lookin pretty good Rick. 8)Bob
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Post by: brownhillboy on March 06, 2010, 12:41:13 am
Nice job Rick!
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Post by: cowboy on March 06, 2010, 07:33:05 pm
Nice points Rick! They don't look that thick to me.
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: Allen7 on March 10, 2010, 12:34:47 am
I made these Obsidian tips on Sunday.  Used some nodules I collected at Glass Buttes the previous weekend, after the GMLR Horse Ridge Rendezvous.  Talking Crow and I were only at Glass Buttes a couple hours before it got dark.  However, I got a bucket full of small nodules that will keep me busy for awhile. 

Happy Knapper

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Post by: rileyconcrete on March 10, 2010, 12:41:36 am
Here are a few points I made Monday for Half Eye.  He puts these on those beautiful arrows he makes.  All obsidian points.

Tell

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Post by: skyarrow on March 10, 2010, 10:41:35 am
I decided to post this pic just to encourage the people that stink at flintknapping like me to still post some pics! ::)  Billy said to post even if it's crude, and I would say mine qualifies for that!LOL  This point started off much larger, but when I was trying to notch it, I broke off about 2/3 of the bottom. >:(  So, I decided I might as well keep chipping away until I get something.  I guess you would call it a bird point, even though I saw in the magazine where Billy showed they could be effective on deer sized game as well.  Anyway, here it is and it weighs 26 grains.

thanx for posting looks great i am still tryn to figure this knapping thing out still nothing to show since my old owen chopper i made but i am still tryn i feel like i have regressed on this now i cant even get the hand axe shape lol uggh but i wont give up
Title: Re: March Flintknapping Challenge: Arrow points, your choice!
Post by: Allen7 on March 13, 2010, 01:13:23 am
Here is a replica that I did of an artifact.  The owner indicated he found the projectile in the Columbia River Gorge near Cascade Locks,OR.  The original was made of a dark reddish brown rock that looked like jasper.   My replica is made from mahogony obsidian and is identical in length (2.5 inch) and thickness, but just tiny bit wider than the original.  However, the original was very worn on the edges.  I figured the original was a little wider when the edges were sharp.   Since it is as easy design, I tried to get nice oblique flakes.   The flake scars are not perfectly lined up to center line, but are OK for me.    I am not an Archeaologist, but this seems to match the leaf shaped points used on spears or darts by the old Cordilleran Culture or the Cascade phase in the Pacific NW.  The original may date to between 5500 - 9000 BC.

Happy Knapper

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Post by: Newbow on March 13, 2010, 05:10:37 am
I haven't knapped in awhile but the new point challange got me started again.  That first obsidian point is one of 2 out of 3 that I broke while notching.  I'll shorten it when I calm down.  The other one I broke split almost to the tip and isn't pictured.  The one of the 3 that didn't break is posted under "Started to knap again".  Each picture shows both sides of each point.  The first two pictures are of obsidian while the last is George Town and one Keokuk.  All from spalls except the Keokuk was a flake.

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Post by: jamie on March 13, 2010, 12:12:43 pm
some good chippin guys