Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: billy on April 18, 2010, 12:38:19 am

Title: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: billy on April 18, 2010, 12:38:19 am
Here's a little bird point I made with totally abo tools.  No copper flakers or horeshoe nail notchers were used to make this point....only bone and antler. This goes to show ya what you can do with abo tools if you are very careful and set up your platforms just right.   

This is basically a replicated Eastgate point used by the northern Paiute in Oregon and Nevada.  It's made from a small, thin flake of dacite.  It's really sharp and pretty thin.  The barbs are really delicate so I worked very slowly and carefully so I didn't break them off.  But what still blows my mind is that I've seen some original Eastgate points that are much thinner than this point...almost paper thin....and they're still in one piece.  How those Paiutes were able to make such delicate and thin points without breaking them is something I still can't figure out. 

Just goes to show you that even as "advanced" as we are, we still cannot equal the skill of people we consider "primitive".

 

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: bryan irwin on April 18, 2010, 12:49:39 am
cool little point
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: Blacktail on April 18, 2010, 01:03:31 am
that is really great billy...i would snap that in my hand....SO,how did you hold that guy....great work with the abo tools...john
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: jamie on April 18, 2010, 07:56:45 am
excellent billy. bill have you tried bone . ive been working with bone a lot on the detail work and notching and love it. especially the ulna bone from a deers leg.
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: DanaM on April 18, 2010, 08:20:26 am
Sweet point billy, and I thought it was a Gunter
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: TRACY on April 18, 2010, 10:23:25 am
Awesome point Billy! I'm using an deer ulna for notching and it seems to help, but need more practice. Thanks for sharing

Tracy
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: mullet on April 18, 2010, 11:55:30 am
 Sweet little point, Billy. Gator jaw bone works real good also. It's tough.
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: sonny on April 18, 2010, 12:05:19 pm
cool little point Billy.

Your statement about the Paiutes making them so thin made me wonder if they had the same feeling of accomplishment when they completed a point as you seem to have when you completed that one.......
   
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: Keenan on April 18, 2010, 12:39:23 pm
 Nice point Billy, Thats about as nice of abo bird point as it gets. ;)
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: Lombard on April 18, 2010, 01:31:21 pm
That is a really cool looking little point.
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: aero86 on April 18, 2010, 01:34:13 pm
i bet they did, but if they werent hunting, i bet they were making flakes.  gotta keep the ammo stores high!
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: AncientArcher76 on April 18, 2010, 06:45:36 pm
Nice bird point!  I like making the small ones but dont know what to do with them all.  Any ideas?

AA
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: mullet on April 18, 2010, 07:16:18 pm
Stick something with them. ;D
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: AncientArcher76 on April 18, 2010, 08:20:55 pm
LOL I have about a hundred birdy points I am starting to flush them down the toilet to make room for new ones!  I am making some turkey and some small game arrows I might put a few sharpies in and the rest flu flu with blunt tips!

Russell
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: rileyconcrete on April 18, 2010, 08:22:25 pm
All I can say is WOW. That is an amazing point. I would break those way to easy.

Great job.

Tell
Title: Re: 100% Abo birdpoint....
Post by: cowboy on April 18, 2010, 09:52:33 pm
that is a great abo point billy! I'm with aero - they must have manufactured those things day in and day out, no doubt some of them were very good at it..