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Title: Snake Bow
Post by: ridge on March 30, 2007, 11:09:58 am
 This is a snake backed hickory pyrimid that i made for my son in 05. I didn,t stain the  limb backs so the snake doesn,t show up in the pics. Looks nice in person but i learned a lesson. Dark background! 64"-2/1/4"fades-1/2" tips-52#@28"-5" handle.   Ridge

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Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: Pappy on March 30, 2007, 11:17:35 am
Very nice ridge,I love the looks of a pyramid bow.Lets see a full draw picture. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: DanaM on March 30, 2007, 01:13:29 pm
Nice bow ridge, but is that left limb bending a bit too much in the middle?
Don't know if its the picture or not but I have one I'm working on that has the same braced profile.

DanaM
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: ridge on March 30, 2007, 01:24:40 pm
 The tiller is good enough for me! If its out its out and your telling me its out instead of just saying the bow is good or not responding at all would be a better choice. Maybe it comes with age but you don,t say negitive things about someones fun. Nuff said.    Ridge
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: DanaM on March 31, 2007, 10:10:24 am
Hey ridge I think you took my comment the wrong way. If I've offened you I'm sorry.
My question was an honest question not meant in a bad way.
It is a nice bow and I do like it.


DanaM

Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: Pat B on March 31, 2007, 11:28:56 am
Ridge, If you put bows up for us to view, we will criticise. These criticisms are not meant to offend you but to give our opinions of what we, as bowyers see. I appreciate any criticism I get on my bows, good or bad. This is part of the learning process. If I am doing something wrong or not exactly the way others do it, I like to hear about it. Some of these criticisms I take to heart and some I take with a grain of salt...but I learn something from each.
  Please don't be so thin skinned about these remarks. No one wants to offend you and most, if not all, are here to enjoy your work and help any way we can. Dana's remark was totally within the boundries of helpful criticism. I glad to have others critique my work. Even after almost 20 years of building wood bows I still make mistakes or misjudgements and appreciate the comments...good or bad.  Pat
 
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: DanaM on March 31, 2007, 11:35:16 am
Thanks Pat, ridge I really feel bad that you took my comment the wrong way, again sorry if I offended.

DanaM
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: ridge on April 01, 2007, 09:31:52 am
 Instead ofcreating a scene i should have started a new topic on my feelings on this subject. I believe if a person asks for comments about his bow then go for it. Most of the old timers would never  try to bring attention to a persons work unless he or she asked them to. Only a newbee to this site might miss the fact that my bow has a hinge present. I don,t need a teacher to help me make a perfect bow, which will never happen anyway. Let me put it this way,  If you can,t say something good say nothing.  At 74yrs of age i don,t handle things like this to well and feel i should  get lost so you guys, and you know who you are can get on looking for the PERFECT BOW    Good luck to you all.   Ridge
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 01, 2007, 11:29:03 am
Nice bow Ridge.  No such thing as a perfect bow, which at 74 years of age you should know :).
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: DanaM on April 01, 2007, 12:29:18 pm
Ridge I am truly sorry that you feel that way. There was no malicous intent to my comment, yes I'm new at this but that doesn't make me less than someone more experienced. As my senior I respect your experience and knowledge and would hope that you would pass it on to those of less experienced.
We both enjoy building bows and I think we both enjoy this forum. It looks to me like we have more in common than differences. Once again I'am sorry my comment offended you but I also won't take it back. So if you feel that leaving this forum is the only answer than so be it. It will be your loss but our loss also.
As one solution, please stay and at your request I will not reply to any of your posts. You may reply to my posts if you so choose.

I will also take a second to apologize to all members of this forum that an issue such as this ever came about.

Sincerely

Dana Montgomery
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on April 01, 2007, 12:40:11 pm
You've done nothing wrong Dana, if anyone choses to show his bows should be able to take criticisims if it's constructive.

You can't just stroke each other egos and always say "what a good bow" that would be wrong, ..again constructive criticism is a good learning tool.
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: a finnish native on April 01, 2007, 12:52:59 pm
I agree with NorthshoreLB. But still, come on ridge, not for a thing this tiny will you truly depart from this forum? I thought that this was a place for people to learn, not to puff up their ego. Not trying to insult on anything. just saying my opinion, and BTW cool bow ridge.
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 01, 2007, 04:31:59 pm
        Oh well !......bob
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: Rich Saffold on April 01, 2007, 08:35:50 pm
It looks right to me judging from the unbraced profile..
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: sonny on April 01, 2007, 08:48:49 pm
Ridge criticizes himself in making a remark that he should have darkened the limbs before applying snake skins but gets "bent..." when someone makes a comment that he thinks is critical [in a bad way.]
hmmmmmm   >:(
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 02, 2007, 11:32:05 am
Come on guys. Dana meant no offense when he offered what he thought was help, but the rest of these comments aren't meant to help in any way.  Ridge has a right to not want critique on his bows, and we should all RESPECT that as much as Dana does. 

Ridge,  I am getting ready to put snake skins on for the first time. If you hadn't posted that bow with the info about a dark background, I would have put the snakeskins on my white wood bow without darkening the background.  As for the comments about your bow. I hope you will just ignore them if that is what you wish to do. But keep posting.  Justin
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: DanaM on April 02, 2007, 11:38:25 am
Amen Justin, nuff said

DanaM
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: ridge on April 02, 2007, 11:57:58 am
 I responded badly and Dana and i have mended the fence. I have met some great guys on the two sites and hunted with some of them I will try to ignore that which i do not agree with and to test myself i,m going to post shortly, a bow that my latest student is making. Boo with a zebra handle. Maybe the best student i have had. You be the judge and as for comments, Let er fly. Ridge
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: OldBow on April 02, 2007, 02:33:59 pm
Ridge, If you put bows up for us to view, we will criticise. These criticisms are not meant to offend you but to give our opinions of what we, as bowyers see. I appreciate any criticism I get on my bows, good or bad. This is part of the learning process. If I am doing something wrong or not exactly the way others do it, I like to hear about it. Some of these criticisms I take to heart and some I take with a grain of salt...but I learn something from each.
  Please don't be so thin skinned about these remarks. No one wants to offend you and most, if not all, are here to enjoy your work and help any way we can. Dana's remark was totally within the boundries of helpful criticism. I glad to have others critique my work. Even after almost 20 years of building wood bows I still make mistakes or misjudgements and appreciate the comments...good or bad.  Pat
 
Ditto -OldBow
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: GregB on April 02, 2007, 02:34:32 pm

I'm looking forward to seeing this latest bow you've given guidance on! Sounds like it will really be a nice one!
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: OldBow on April 02, 2007, 02:35:36 pm
Got anybody around to crank this neat bow back to full draw and post the image?  Thanks -OldBow
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: ridge on April 02, 2007, 03:36:47 pm
 Well its like this,mother can do it but she is very slow in doing so. Tomorrow nite when Jim comes to the shop i,ll see if he can take a quick one. I marked this bow 52# but i strung er up for the pic and it strung hard so i think i marked it wrong. Don,t like to go over 50# with this old body but i,ll put it on the tree if need be.  Ridge
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: stiknstring on April 02, 2007, 04:47:28 pm
If something is put in front of the public, criticism as well as praise should be expected.  If it is not then it is a fool who puts forth his product. I am glad that my skin is thicker than most at my tender age of 37.  If I get criticism I analyze it and gleen what informaiton I can from it.  My next bow will always be better (then again maybe not) But I value the FRIENDS that will be HONEST with me and tell me how to make it better rather than sugar coating it and giving me a false sense of well being.
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: Pappy on April 02, 2007, 09:13:54 pm
Glad yall mended it up ridge,don't like to see friction among friends. :)and folks that mean well.
   Pappy
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 02, 2007, 11:08:53 pm
Good for you, Ridge. It's great that you made a bow for your son. Really great. Jawge
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: duffontap on April 03, 2007, 03:21:46 am
Nice looking bow there ridge.  Looking forward to the full draw.  If I'm building bows at 74 I will consider myself the most lucky bowyer in the world. 

          J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: ridge on April 04, 2007, 12:16:40 pm
Heres full draw . Not perfect but life isn,t either.

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Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 04, 2007, 01:57:49 pm
The tiller may not be perfect, but I have done worse.  ??? Thanks for posting.  Justin
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: DanaM on April 04, 2007, 03:05:09 pm
ridge, glad to see ya posted the full draw pics, I hope I can still crank em back like that in 30 years.
Looks good, hope to see many more from you in the future.

DanaM
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: OldBow on April 04, 2007, 06:10:53 pm
Thanks for the full draw.  We'll look at it again at the end of April for Self Bow of the Month.-OldBow
Title: Re: Snake Bow
Post by: DanaM on April 05, 2007, 06:04:40 am
Hey guys, Just wanted to let everyone know ridge and I have been communicating thru IM's, and it turns out we have more in common
than differences. ridge is one of the good guys and I have nothing but respect for him. He has years of experience and tons of knowledge
and is passing that knowledge on to another generation. So what started out as a disagreement with some harsh words has turned into friendship.
To err is human, to forgive is divine...
Remember folks when tempers flare that you most likely have more in common than ya think!!

DanaM

ridge may you live long and prosper...  ;D
ya i know Spock said that LOL