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Title: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: nocams on August 06, 2010, 11:23:33 am
HI Guys,
well me and Mason are starting to knap pretty regular now and wanted to know everyone's setup at home ? I am concerned about all the scrap flakes. Been knapping in the garage with a drop cloth around us and then tossing scraps over the bluff, we live on a mountain. Is that what everyone else is doing ? If we knap in the yard I guess we could do the same otherwise I would have flat tires on the mower ! I think when we are in the garage we need to keep a fan behind us too to blow the airborne dust away from us ?
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: aaron on August 06, 2010, 11:48:53 am
it's better to landfill them than toss 'em off a mountain- that way no future archaeologist will be confused by what they find....
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: Hardawaypoints on August 06, 2010, 12:30:13 pm
I have a pit that I bury flakes in. I also mix some modern glass in with so nobody gets confused in the future.  Some of my chips have sharpie marker marks on them and some are slab-cut pieces and that should help any archaeologist worth his salt to figure things out pretty quickly.

One friend of mine used his in his driveway, but I think that might damage tires.

Jim
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: AncientArcher76 on August 06, 2010, 02:07:47 pm
I dump them over my little bank...Its where I throw all my twigs rocks etc... Some folks just bury them.

Russ
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: leapingbare on August 06, 2010, 03:25:57 pm
i take and duck tape them to a beer can thats filled with black powder once i get it the size of a football i light it and toss it to the neighbors dog that never shuts up....
Ok i don't do that but have thought about it allot and shooting the dog with poison tipped blow gun darts or with my bow. Maybe cut a small hole in the fence and set up a snear.. hmmm
 Ok ok i want kill the dog. I have a huge pile of flakes in my back yard and no idea what I'll do with them when i go to sell this place :)
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: Josh on August 06, 2010, 03:48:24 pm
i take and duck tape them to a beer can thats filled with black powder once i get it the size of a football i light it and toss it to the neighbors dog that never shuts up....
Ok i don't do that but have thought about it allot and shooting the dog with poison tipped blow gun darts or with my bow. Maybe cut a small hole in the fence and set up a snear.. hmmm
 Ok ok i want kill the dog. I have a huge pile of flakes in my back yard and no idea what I'll do with them when i go to sell this place :)


 :D :D ;D ;D ;D   ^^^Good stuff.  :)
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: cowboy on August 06, 2010, 05:21:13 pm
I have a small mountain of chips  ;D piled next to the shop, and several other spots on the place. Only had one kid to complain and need a bandaid ::). Or, you could box em up and ship em to billy ;).
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: Outbackbob48 on August 06, 2010, 05:42:41 pm
I have a small ravine running thru property,  I haven't filled it yet but I have only been knapping 4 yrs. ;D I got a pretty good pile debitage going.  Bob
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: nocams on August 06, 2010, 07:02:01 pm
Jesse, take five and have a beer bud ! My father-in-law had a name for antifreeze..... he called it, " Dog no more " . However, I would never do that, what a cruel death !

Yep, we been knapping in the driveway too, it is 3/4 mile long and gravel. I was just afraid of cutting car tires and my own dog's paws ? Might build us a sandbox type pit out of pressure treated wood so we got a pit sorta like Pappy's. If we see the dogs near it we can shew them out of there.
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: sailordad on August 06, 2010, 07:27:51 pm
well i keep alot of my "waste flakes"
if its big enough to crunch a small flake from i keep it
anything else goes int ot my garbage and i let the city dispose of it for me
i done worry about future archeologist finding it,what 10000 yrs from now
so by that time it will be considered ancient no matter who did it


as far as the anti freeze thing goes with animals(or even people)
very very bad way to die
if you ingest it(at doesnt take all that much)it will cause your kindeys to shut down(and other organs)
its a painfull agonizing death
ive seen people put dishes of it out for the rabbits and squirrels to drink here in town
when you see one dieing from it,you will never do it
an arrow is much quiker and much more human way to go
beside dog makes for a good meal  ;)
why taint it with antifreeze
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: Hardawaypoints on August 06, 2010, 07:49:57 pm
i take and duck tape them to a beer can thats filled with black powder once i get it the size of a football i light it and toss it to the neighbors dog that never shuts up....
Ok i don't do that but have thought about it allot and shooting the dog with poison tipped blow gun darts or with my bow. Maybe cut a small hole in the fence and set up a snear.. hmmm
 Ok ok i want kill the dog. I have a huge pile of flakes in my back yard and no idea what I'll do with them when i go to sell this place :)

You may have to come to my neighborhood sometime... ::)  There are a few around here that need to have an accident.  It is not so much that I hate dogs, I just hate the owners who haven't taught them any manners of how to behave. >:(  Nothing makes me madder than an endlessly barking dog whose owners are oblivious to the noise.

There was one guy who lived near my parents who had a mindless barking dog that wouldn't shut up.  My Dad called the guy with the barking dog at 3:30 in the morning and barked into the phone, which got his attention & he shut the animal up.

I would never poison anything, but I thought about a time or two.

Jim
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: leapingbare on August 06, 2010, 08:23:30 pm
anyone heard of or used that fake bird house that puts outs a supper sonic noise when darks bark? only the dogs can hear it and it makes them shut up.
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: nugget on August 06, 2010, 10:30:43 pm
Put them in  the creek way at the back of the property so I can mess with archeologists in  the future. >:D >:D
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: JW_Halverson on August 06, 2010, 10:51:06 pm
Traveling salesman steps outa the car and the feller on the porch sics the dog on him.  Guy jumps back in the car and the dog is called off, feller laughs and say's "Just funnin' with ya, come on up!"  Salesman gets out again, feller sics the dog again, and the salesman jumps back in his car.  Feller on the porch slaps his thigh, laughs some more, and hollers out, "Sorry, couldn't resist!  Now come on up on the porch, lets talk."  As the salesman gets out for the third time he has a revolver in his hand.  The feller on the porch stops laughing, puts his hands up and says, "Don't shoot muh dawg, I was just funnin!"  Salesman says, "I wasn't going to shoot the dog, the dog doesn't know better."


anyone heard of or used that fake bird house that puts outs a supper sonic noise when darks bark? only the dogs can hear it and it makes them shut up.

My folks bought two of them, one on their side of the neighbor's yard and a Christmas present to the nieghbors down the street on the other side of the folks with the barking dog.  Seems to have worked.  Now they gotta find something for the nieghbor's loud car. 
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: leapingbare on August 07, 2010, 12:00:16 am
my be woth the 60 bucks. hmmmmmm
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: caveman2533 on August 07, 2010, 09:59:53 am
If you have a good place to dump them ,off the side of a mountain then go ahead. Any Archeologist who's worth his salt, in the future who finds your pile should immediatley know that during this century there wer many modern pknappers and this a waste pile form one of them.  Don't knap in the grass with out using a tarp. Anyone who might walk there barefoot is in danger of gettiing cut.
Steve
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: cowboy on August 07, 2010, 10:22:31 am
I have extended a part of my driveway with a lot of that stuff and haven't noticed any tire damage yet - but you don't want to be walking out there barefooted  ;). One of the best leads on flint I've ever had was down south of San Antonio. An area, or county where all the gravel backroads are flint. I mean they use chert cobbles for their road base down there. I picked up several loads picking through the ditches, hehehe... Anyway, I never noticed any tire damage there either - not to say that it wouldn't...
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: AncientArcher76 on August 07, 2010, 03:36:18 pm
Dang Jesse U must be haunted by this dog ur hell bent on getting it to shut up...dont make a guy from NY come down walk up to the house ask the little old lady do u own a dog...yeah sure hes right over there..THANKs  POW POW POW have a nice day...  Ok maybe not quite like that but sounds good ::) ::)  I been making debitage all over and someday someones gonna find it and be like no way in heck obsidian, horse creek, texas perds...in NY these injuns must have been crazzzyyyy!!!!

Russ
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: Hillbilly on August 08, 2010, 03:27:17 pm
Mix 'em in with your kid's cereal to toughen them up...
Use them instead of rice at weddings of people you don't like....
Put them in shoe boxes and mail them to people at random whose address you picked off of whitepages.com with no return address on the box......
Pour them in the radiator and crankcase of the local tax collector's ride.....
Feed them to your neighbor's loud, annoying guineas.....
Put them in bags and stuff them in the donation box behind the Goodwill store.....
Dump them in the hole in the creek where all the Yankee tourists go swimming..........
Pour them into the holes at the local golf course.....
Stuff them in the parachute compartment of a big model rocket and launch it out over the country club tennis courts.....
Bury them in the baselines near second base and home plate at the baseball field......
Or just leave them there and see how long it takes for your debitage pile to get bigger than your house....

Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: leapingbare on August 08, 2010, 03:45:05 pm
hah..
Title: Re: What to do with scrap flakes ?
Post by: Timo on August 08, 2010, 06:52:10 pm
I have a big stump hole on my place where I dump them,along with deer and turkey carcasses. I call it my native dump.

Jess, if you want rid of the dog just put some beef liver in a small panty hose sock and throw it over there. :-X