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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Bob S. on April 24, 2007, 03:16:37 pm

Title: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Bob S. on April 24, 2007, 03:16:37 pm
How do you guys feel about ash arrows? I'm thinking about cutting a couple logs to split arrow blanks from. Be nice to have some primitive arrows to go with my bow.
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Hillbilly on April 24, 2007, 03:36:48 pm
Ash makes great arrows.
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 24, 2007, 03:44:00 pm
...............Yup, like Hillbilly said............bob
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: ratty on April 24, 2007, 03:53:36 pm
ash make heavy arrows ;)

but thats not to say there bad.

i have some 3/8 ash shafts compared to pine 1/2 pine shafts and there still heavier ;)
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: DanaM on April 24, 2007, 10:05:31 pm
Heavy but hard hittin, they pack a wallop ;D

DanaM
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Bob S. on April 24, 2007, 10:27:37 pm
I tend to go a little on the heavy side with arrows anyway, so the ash sounds good. I'll experiment though. Thank's guys.
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Pat B on April 25, 2007, 12:37:59 am
Bob, One thing I noticed about ash arrows is you have to keep an eye on their straightness. They tend to go out of straight but that is easily remedied with hand straightening. They are good shafts and in my experience were 100 grs heavier than cedar.
   My first trad hit was with an ash arrow. Just at dark the buck walked out at about 14 yards and turned to his right to tend a scrape. The wind was from him to me. He was broadside. I drew and released and heard a solid hit. The buck ran with his tail down...I was ecstatics!
   After 5 hours that night and 5 hours the next morning I found where he cleared a fence nearly 1000 yards from where I shot him.  We found the back half of the arrow with a pin drop of blood on it and it was broken across the grain. My guess is that the Grizzly head lodged in the shoulder and the arrow broke on a tree. This deer was tending his scrapes 2 weeks later. He had a definite splay to one of his hooves.  Please excuse the diversion.    Pat
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Bob S. on April 25, 2007, 12:06:31 pm
Thank's Pat, I'll keep that in mind. Sorry to hear you didn't get the deer, but glad to hear he was back tending a scrape. I had the same experience with my "modern" long bow. I hit high, right in the shoulder. Somebody shot the buck opening day of gun season. 8 point-19" inside. I hated to loose that deer, but at least he didn't rot somewhere.
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Bob S. on April 26, 2007, 02:36:48 am
Now I'm curious as to what your favorites are. Anybody?
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 26, 2007, 03:01:15 am
 Favorite arras ?.Cane ,of course ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.....bob
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: ratty on April 26, 2007, 03:40:48 am
Now I'm curious as to what your favorites are. Anybody?

my favorite at the moment is 1/2" pine as im shooting a 100# english warbow and a 110# hungarian wabow.
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Hillbilly on April 26, 2007, 08:52:12 am
Cane; sourwood, buffalo nut, and viburnum shoots. I've made split arrows from ash, pine, and tulip poplar. They stay straight easier than shoot shafts, but also break easier.
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Pappy on April 26, 2007, 10:42:31 am
Hillbilly I would think a buffalo nut would be to short,do you splice them. :D
   Pappy
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Pat B on April 26, 2007, 11:22:19 am
Like Hillbilly, I like sourwood, cane, buffalo nut, and viburnum and other hardwood shoots. I haven't done many split out shafts though.
Pappy, Not if you use both of them! ::)     Pat
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Hillbilly on April 26, 2007, 11:42:44 am
Pappy, actually obtaining the buffalo nut is a more intensive process than making an arrow from it  :o It's Pat's fault, anyway-he's the one who got me started out using buffalo nuts  ;D
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: DanaM on April 26, 2007, 12:06:50 pm
Think of how the buffalo feels. yowie! ;D
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Pappy on April 26, 2007, 12:18:53 pm
 ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Thats pretty good,I new I would get something started,I can't wait till next week,this is going to be a hoot. ;D
   Pappy
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Pat B on April 26, 2007, 02:07:01 pm
In reality(is this OK?) Buffalo Nut (Pyralaria pubera) is a small, short lived understory shrub that is parasitic on the roots of hardwood trees. I believe it is related to missletoe. The fruit of this plant has so much oil in it that with a piece of cotton thread strung through it, it can be lit and used as a candle(hense the genis name Pyra laria).
   The shoots have a thick pithy center and the shaft has fibers simular to boo.  8) Pat
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: DanaM on April 26, 2007, 02:44:16 pm
Thanks fer the botany lesson Pat  I think I skipped the day they went over buffalo nut  ;D

DanaM
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Coo-wah-chobee on April 26, 2007, 02:47:40 pm
...............Buffalo "jawl".......Hmmm ;D.......bob
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Bob S. on April 26, 2007, 03:26:49 pm
Now I'm curious as to what your favorites are. Anybody?

my favorite at the moment is 1/2" pine as im shooting a 100# english warbow and a 110# hungarian wabow.

100# and 110# bows? Remind me not to make you mad. ;) Interesting..... I expected to see cedar in about every other post.
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: arrowmaker on April 27, 2007, 10:26:22 am
My first posting to you lot over there. Just finish 12 - 1/2" ash shafts for a 120 pound warbow :o 7" fletchings hand made bodkins when he came to collect tried them paid said thanks and order 24 more with different heads.I tapered both ends down to 23/32" self nocked .
                                             arrowmaker
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: Pat B on April 27, 2007, 11:31:47 am
Welcome Arrowmaker. Sounds like you will fit in just fine around here. Got any pics of the arrows you made?    Pat
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: heavybow on April 28, 2007, 10:20:12 am
Fred wellcome to the forum.In the future i will need some arrows spine very high poundage marlon ;D
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: arrowmaker on April 28, 2007, 04:33:15 pm
Let me know mate I have been making them by hand am waiting for some commercial shafts will let you know if they are OK.I can get 1/2" up to 180# at 28"commercial shafts.
Can make in ash elm ceder or most woods.
                                   Fred
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: arrowmaker on April 28, 2007, 04:59:39 pm
Pat if you get into my web site www.jft-traditional-archery.co.uk there are some of my arrows in there.
  arrowmaker---(FRED)
Title: Re: Ash Arrows?
Post by: arrowmaker on April 30, 2007, 07:28:44 am
Hello Pat me and computors do not gel tell me how to send some photos and will send some.Sorry for delay in reply am a little busy getting ready for 2 day shoot in Kent.
 Regs Fred