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Title: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: Yeomanbowman on April 28, 2007, 04:55:00 pm
Hello All,
Those on the old forum (the forum is dead :(, long live the new forum :)) will know me.  For the primitive archer regulars this is the last bow I have made and a vid of my drawing style.  I've recently checked the bow and I think it's around 155 at 32".  I am holding the bow a bit too low as I hadn't put the arrow pass in at that stage.
I'd like to say also what an interesting site this is and a wealth of information.  I must try heat-treating some white woods.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/yeomanbowman/Dscn7123.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/yeomanbowman/Dscn7121.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/yeomanbowman/Dscn7127.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/yeomanbowman/Dscn7124.jpg
Cheers,
Jeremy
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: DanaM on April 28, 2007, 05:30:56 pm
Jeremy welcome aboard the bow is awesome! My shoulder went out just watching you draw that baby. Now where did I put them Vicadans ;D

One question, why two string grooves on the horn tips?

DanaM
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 28, 2007, 05:32:00 pm
Jeremy, I split your bow out into its own topic. I hope you don't mind. It is and incredible bow, and I don't want it to get lost in the middle of the other topic/discussion.  We like to see lots of bows, but everyone don't read all the topics. So we post new posts for all bows and give them a title so everyone knows it is a bow not just a discussion.  Justin
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: D. Tiller on April 28, 2007, 05:45:50 pm
Jeremy, I'm at 65# now and next one I'm making will be 80# hope to be up to the 100# bows with you guys sometime this winter! Like that bow!

When you draw the bow are your feat in line with eachother? Do you step into the draw? Hows it done with the heavy weight bows.
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: heavybow on April 28, 2007, 08:31:22 pm
 Glad you are here jeremy tell the rest of the guys tell gino. marlon ;D
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: 1/2primitive on April 28, 2007, 10:29:03 pm
WOW! Great job on the really nice longbow!
      Sean
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: duffontap on April 29, 2007, 12:40:09 am
Now Sean, that's 'warbow.'  Ha, ha--just teasing.

What a powerful draw Jeremy.  You really must be proud of this accomplishment.  Do spread the word that we're regrouping here.  Nick, Steve, and Glennan will hang around too. 

            J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: wanabehunter on April 29, 2007, 01:43:55 am
id be afraid to shoot it lol i like my arm without a huge gash in it lol
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: Yeomanbowman on April 29, 2007, 02:23:11 pm
Thanks for the feedback every one :)
The double stringing grooves are to avoid the use of a pouched stringer as I've cracked a bottom nock before like that.  With regard to my shooting stance it is just sort of 'organic' and a result of getting into the bow.  The video clip is the 1st time I've seen my style, but I have studied medieval images of shooting and taken a lot from it, in particular the reference to pointing the front foot somewhat.  This has the effect of opening the body and helps the string to clear the body.  This especially important in armour and/or if you're quite short (as I am at 5'8") whilst drawing 32" shafts.  Here's the real McCoy...
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/yeomanbowman/luttrellpsalter.jpg
Jeremy
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: D. Tiller on April 29, 2007, 04:13:28 pm
I thought so! Thats how I have been shooting naturally for a long time. Guess my English heritage is comming out in me!  ;D
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: duffontap on May 01, 2007, 04:08:47 am
Jeremy,

How long did it take you to get into a 150#+ bow?  I've thought for a while that 150# is the 'ultimate mortal weight.'  Are there any exercises you could share with us for getting into heavy bows safely?  That would make a great thread.

         J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: Marc St Louis on May 01, 2007, 10:16:27 am
Very nice. Why do you have the wrap bellow the nock?
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: Yeomanbowman on May 01, 2007, 12:16:23 pm
Hello Marc,
She's wrapped as the result of a previous experience.  My last warbow (about 140+Lb @32) had the same binding because the low bracing hight and timberhitch was bruising the belly side of the tips.  The wood was the softer English yew.  After about 200 shots the lower limb just below the nock snapped clean off.  As this happened with a heavy war arrow, most of the energy was absorbed and I was able to fit a new nock and the bow survived.  I partly attribute the clean shear to the binding, hence it has become something I practise.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: Yeomanbowman on May 01, 2007, 06:40:24 pm
Jeremy,

 Are there any exercises you could share with us for getting into heavy bows safely?  That would make a great thread.

         J. D. Duff

Hello J.D,
I'll sort something out soon ;)
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: duffontap on May 02, 2007, 03:35:37 am
Looking forward to it.  I'd also be interested in knowing if you have plans of going any higher in weight.

       J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: Yeomanbowman on May 15, 2007, 06:10:42 pm
Hello,
I shot in a clout/flight competition on Saturday and have got some official distances to report.  Over here the BL-BS run a 'Standard Arrow' and flight shaft shoot at some of their events and you get 2 shot with the former and 3 with the latter.  Basically the Standard arrow stipulates a small medieval war arrow. As a minimum it must have a 3/8" parallel/bob tailed shaft and 6"x3/4" triangular fletches armed with a hand forged bodkin/broad head, and weighing at least 803 grains (52g).
Mine had 12mm bob tailed ash shafts and weighed 65g or 1003 grains with the above fletchings and shot 273 yards.  The best flight shaft went 338 yards.  The weather was a bit blustery and damp but could have been worse.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: SimonUK on May 15, 2007, 07:50:09 pm
Amazing performance Yeoman. Is that a best for you?

Do the flight arrows have any specifications or can you design one the way you wish?
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: stevesjem on May 15, 2007, 08:19:59 pm
Hello,
I shot in a clout/flight competition on Saturday and have got some official distances to report.  Over here the BL-BS run a 'Standard Arrow' and flight shaft shoot at some of their events and you get 2 shot with the former and 3 with the latter.  Basically the Standard arrow stipulates a small medieval war arrow. As a minimum it must have a 3/8" parallel/bob tailed shaft and 6"x3/4" triangular fletches armed with a hand forged bodkin/broad head, and weighing at least 803 grains (52g).
Mine had 12mm bob tailed ash shafts and weighed 803 grains with the above fletchings and shot 273 yards.  The best flight shaft went 338 yards.  The weather was a bit blustery and damp but could have been worse.
Cheers,
Jeremy

Nice one, where was that at Jeremy?

Steve
Title: Re: Yeomanbowman 155# war bow
Post by: Yeomanbowman on May 16, 2007, 10:49:14 am
Thanks for the feedback.
Simon,
No, the flight arrow can be whatever the archer wants as long as they are over 26", made from wooden shafts and fletched with feathers.  The flight was a P.B.
Steve,
The Welsh Championships at Margam Park.  No Mary Rose clout arrows ;)
Opps! The shaft wasn't hollow my war arrow actually weighed 65g or 1003 grains.
Cheers,
Jeremy