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Title: some BIG sawblades...arrowheads and knife blades
Post by: half eye on December 24, 2010, 05:28:04 pm
Fellas,
     Here's some stuff I'm making up from some 40 foot bandsaw blades. The steel is .080" thick, and 1" X 2" broadheads weigh about 143 grains. Sent some out to some PA members, but wanted to see how the stuff works. Enjoy the pics.
rich
Title: Re: some BIG sawblades...arrowheads and knife blades
Post by: hillbilly61 on December 24, 2010, 06:09:29 pm
 Very cool Rich!!! I bet they are some meat stickin blades ;D
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Post by: Sparrow on December 24, 2010, 06:42:04 pm
Wow !  Nice.  There are fine knives in there too.  '  Frank
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Post by: Pat B on December 24, 2010, 07:01:03 pm
Rich, I'd bet the arrow heads would be bone splitting at that thickness and weight! How much do they weigh?
Title: Re: some BIG sawblades...arrowheads and knife blades
Post by: half eye on December 24, 2010, 09:34:01 pm
Pat... the heads that are 1" X 2" weight 143 grains (depends on how ya grind the edge)......but if ya was to cut tangs on them, or go to 1-1/4" X 3" it's pretty easy to get 'em in the 200 grain range. So far the steel looks like it would handle the longer length.....without folding the tip on impact.

Hillbilly, your gonna find out shortly, sir. Think they would be hell on pigs too.

S/F,   that one in the photo is a little 3-1/2 inch dressing and skining blade I'm doin up for the deer woods.
rich
Title: Re: some BIG sawblades...arrowheads and knife blades
Post by: Pat B on December 24, 2010, 10:46:46 pm
Atr .080 you shouldn't have to worry about them bending I wouldn't think. I thought they would be heavier. That is a good weight just as they are.
Title: Re: some BIG sawblades...arrowheads and knife blades
Post by: Bill Skinner on December 24, 2010, 10:54:52 pm
On the side notch points, the base is wider than your cutting edge, that can catch and limit penetration.  Grind the tip so it is even with the inside cutting edge.  At least, that is what I do with stone points.  Bill
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Post by: aero86 on December 24, 2010, 10:58:34 pm
looks good!  ill take a few!  lol
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Post by: hillbilly61 on December 25, 2010, 01:11:38 am
 Thanks Rich..Looking forward to finding out just how good of a pig sticker they are ;D
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Post by: sailordad on December 25, 2010, 09:17:42 am
well ifn them dont make a hole,then nothing is gonna


On the side notch points, the base is wider than your cutting edge, that can catch and limit penetration.  Grind the tip so it is even with the inside cutting edge.  At least, that is what I do with stone points.  Bill

im with Bill,not to mention in states like Mn they would be considerd "barbed" with the notches like that
and that would make them illegal to hunt with
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Post by: crooketarrow on December 25, 2010, 11:15:01 am
    Now thats a band saw blade. BILL's right grind the back part of your nocks so they set in below the blade. NICE
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 25, 2010, 12:42:26 pm
That's some good work! Jawge
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Post by: Mohammad Javad Shoaee on December 25, 2010, 04:30:09 pm
That's a great arrowhead.how did you cut them?
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Post by: half eye on December 25, 2010, 06:54:13 pm
Hey Fellas,
       Forgot that part.....I did not cut them out.....by having the big blades sheared to 1-1/8 wide I just draw a line in the middle and then go corner to corner on both halves.....and use a shear press to bang them out. I dont have a press but I have some friends at the local welding shop, and they do.
       The picture with the blank and the 4 arrowheads in it is how I lay 'em out to shear them. I used a bench grinder to set the intial edges, then filed then to dress 'em up. and then went to some 800 wet/dry paper  glued to a steel block to get them "scary".
rich
Title: Re: some BIG sawblades...arrowheads and knife blades
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on December 26, 2010, 09:42:32 pm
Rich,   
Those look good on the arrows.  They look like killers for sure.  I would probably take that back edge down behind the wrap also.  It would help with penetration.  I can't wait to try some of them.
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Post by: ken75 on December 28, 2010, 09:17:35 pm
nice design on those Rich ,deer killers for sure !!
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Post by: half eye on December 28, 2010, 09:32:39 pm
Thought you might like 'em .....since I stold the idea off of you !!!!
rich
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Post by: wvarcher on December 29, 2010, 09:46:17 pm
Half eye, how do they fly?  Any problems with wind planing?  Thanks for another interesting and inspiring topic!
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Post by: half eye on December 29, 2010, 10:27:52 pm
WV
I have not had any problems with flight with them. I ground some in the double beveled and some in the single bevel and that didn't make no difference either.

I shoot heavy hardwood arrows [oak,ash,walnut,hickory etc.] about 600-700 grains 3/8" diameter, 3 fletch in either 5" or 6", and both 1 degree offset and helical and they both shoot good. The other thing about my arrows is I cut them so that full draw brings the back of the head right back to my finger, then release.

I really dont believe that you'll have a planing problem.
rich
Title: Re: some BIG sawblades...arrowheads and knife blades
Post by: wvarcher on December 30, 2010, 12:47:04 am
thanks, half E.  You've inspired me to make a few of my own.  What other steel could you recommend besides saw blades?