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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: DLH on February 03, 2011, 07:21:35 pm
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Whats a good price for knapping lessons with the teacher suppling all the materials?
Thanks
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You teaching, or learning?
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Hey DLH, welcome aboard! That is a good, valid - you teaching or learning question :). If your learning - find some knappers close by ( this is a good place to find em) and most all will show ya for free. I checked out some of the classes years ago but never took em up on it. Not that their bad, I just had plenty of other things to do with my money ;).
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find the next nearest knapp in by you
go to it and ask folks if they mind if you sit with them and learn from them
i have never had anyone say no yet ;)
this way you learn and can save your money to buy material/tools to take home with you
then theres always you tube videos(that what got me going)
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I paid for mine by shareing good rock when I got it.
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one million dollars ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)............or a couple beers
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Sorry about that I'm learning. I want to make some heads to hunt with along with river cane arrows. I'm in Ky too I found someone in the same county that I live in. Their price seemed good but I like to look around before buying ya know?
Thanks for the help,
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Where abouts in KY? There are plenty of good knappers in western, central, and eastern KY...
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attend "the classic"
you will find some of the best knappers around there
plus me ;D
its in tennesse last weekend of april/first weekend of may ;)
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Central Ky. I have found a knapper and he sells supplies for knapping as well. I just don't have to money right now going to college and thought it wouldn't hurt to look around until later about spring of the year. Anyone near Bowling Green because thats where I'm at for most of my week.
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There are some nappers most weekends at our club[TwinOaks] about an hour from there.
Like sailor siad come to the Classic,lots of folks that would be glad to help and usually some materal there to work with. Also Sawfiler[Shanon ] lives pretty close to there.Might ask him.He is on here a lot. :)
Pappy
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DLH: A lot of the "tools" you will need are ones you can make or find. Antlers, hammer stones, rubber hand pads, etc! You live in an area rich in quality knappers and most of them will be willing to help you learn. Also the net is full of online instruction. If you are serious and make it to Twin Oaks they will help you. If you make that effort, I can send you some tools, hand flakers, antler billits, hand pads, Ishi stick, etc. Show up at the Classic on the weekend and meet some of the countries best knappers and they will get you started! Indian Joe
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Cost of Knapping Lessons?........how ever much a couple of boxes of bandaids cost...LOL.....gut
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Thanks everyone you are all so williing to help. What is the days and times for the Classic in Twin oaks? I am going to try and come down that weekend and I think there is one in Ky but its in the summer correct?
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DLH, the CLASSIC in tenessee is the very last weekend of april/very first weekend of may
that weekend overlaps both them months
i believe its from the time the sun comes up each day and lasts until you go to bed ;D
not real sure on the times daily though,aint been to it yet
but i will be there this year
heck if you show up ill show ya what little i know ;)
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I knapped from sun up until I started getting weak from blood loss, Pappy got lights set up so you an knap 24 hrs a day if ya need to. Not a real lot of knappers but some of the best in the east are there. No better place in the world to learn how. Later Bob
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I live in Clarksville TN, about a hour from you i think.
I knap a little and would not mind showing you a few things if you want to come down.
I have a little rock layin around to. ;)
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dude there an offer that you dont want to refuse
trust me on this one,i aint gonna say why but just look thru the knapping threads ;)
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Do not refuse this offer from Leaping bare, I repeat do not refuse this one :) Jesse will show ya what its all about for sure. Later bob
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that offer is like Zeus coming down from Olympia and offering to teach you to throw lightning bolts!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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You guys are to much :D
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Jamie,only differance is
Zues isnt as humble as Jesse is ;)
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Ya ever notice there ain't no nudists that are into knapping rocks? (I dunno what that has to do with anything, just a random thought)
DLH, with this forum, there really is no reason to ever pay for good advice, except to repay it in kind or pass it along.
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Ya ever notice there ain't no nudists that are into knapping rocks? (I dunno what that has to do with anything, just a random thought
Abby might tell you other wise ;D
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I started to comment, JW, ::) >:D, but,,,,naww. ;D
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i sure hope that doesnt happen at the Classic :D
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Ok thanks everyone I think I am going to get a begginers kit and head down to the classic at the end of April. Hope to meet some of y'all down there. I think I might try to practice some before I come down to. Can I find rock that I could practice on in creeks? I will prolly ask a lot of questions if I can't find them on the search bar first so please bear with me...
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yup knap ins are good.
i still use youtube, paleoplanet flintknappin forum is good too
i think i would take leapingbear up on that offer( kinda wish i lived near him)
when i started i just called a flintknapper aka caveman. and he just showed me how. being a rock supplier i naturally bought stone from him
and actually never buy anywhere else. he is now a friend of mine and a darn nice guy.
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Can I find rock that I could practice on in creeks?
You are one of the lucky ones who lives in flint country! Look in the fields and the creeks. look for chalky white balls in the fields from baseball size to football size.
Anywere east and north of you, your find flint, your also find some south and west to, but mostly east and north.
When you look for flint you have to smack it to make sure its solid, when the flint is exposed to the elements it will crack and you cant make arrowheads outa cracked rock! Good luck knapping!
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I kinda have to have to choose between the two because of gas but if that wasn't a problem I would...
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See ya at the Classic!
;)
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Thats what I was kind of what I was hoping for lol. Do people trade alot at classics and if so what would be good things to bring to trade or would that be a bad idea?
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If every tribe of Indians got to gather to trade 700 years ago it would look a lot like the TN Classic :)
bring what you got, I'm telling you, you can find flint were you live you just got to look. Right now is the best time to get out and look in the fields before they plant. And the rock you ill find, Sonora, KY Blue, Hornstone ext.... if good trade item.
Deer horns, River cain, Wood for bows and anything else, sinew dude the list go's on and on :)
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Wow I can get tons of river cane, a little sinew, maybe rawhide, antlers, maybe Ky agates don't know if knappers use them, maybe some bow wood. I just need to find pictures of the rocks I need to hunt for and hopefully that will give me a good start anyways.
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I cant shrink photos at home to post them here but folow the link to some pics of what to look for.
http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/41635/Rock-Run-Pics
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Thanks that is a huge help. What county did you get that rock from just out of curosity?
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No idea...
Your in the right spot. Mammoth cave has huge balls of hornstone in the roof of one cave. Cant touch those but lets you know its in the area.
Take a road trip, go north east and drive the back roads and look for those flint balls in the fields. Stop and poke around in the creeks, Im sure your find flint.
Good luck and keep us posted!
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Ok I think I know about where you were at I'll prolly be about a hour and a half north but I'm sure I can find some just a matter of looking for it.
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Your best bet is to go North east or north.
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Any chance it would be in the same area agates?
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Never seen a KY agate. But were you live i would not be surprised if you walked out side right now and tripped over a big flint ball.
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I might bring one to the classic for you to see. I guess I'll have to go out this weekend and look around for some flint this weekend if the weather is willing which I doubt.
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Dhl, get your self down to Jamie's pronto!!! I would take some Agates to the classic also. But by all means, get down to Leapingbare's place, and start asking, watching, and doing! You just got an offer most of us would almost kill for. :o ......ok, well maybe not almost ::).......but do by all means get down there. Oh, and take beer. ;) Just beer. Don't take food! You'd be better off paying for lessons, it would be a lot cheaper. You don't even want to try to feed that boy! ;D ;D Even if you have to crank up your hush puppies, and hoof it, get down there. ;D Believe me, you will be light years ahead in the game of knapping! ;) And get out in the field, and streams. If you do well in locating rock, bring some of that to the classic also. Got any feathers? Bring em. Take a video camera if you have one, or a regular camera, and a note pad. You will be on overload with info. But in all seriousness, get down to Jamies as soon as you can, and it is convient with him. ........Lucky Bas....! ::)
Wayne
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I would love to go down there but I have limited gas money so I thought I would see him at the classic. It would be great to go to his place but being in school kind of have to ration my money so to speak. Thank you for the offer though Jesse I would come down if gas wasn't a problem...
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Dlh, I typed, Jamie,should have been Jesse. ::) Being old and decrepit, I am easily confused. ;D ;D
I can relate to the lack of funds. ;) Forget the beer. ;) Just bring rock, and whatever else you can drag along, that someone might be interested in. Sorry about that Jessie. Oh, and sorry about that Jamie..... ::)
Wayne
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screwed up again old man!!!! ;D being mistaken for jesse aint a bad thing :)
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screwed up again old man!!!! ;D being mistaken for jesse aint a bad thing :)
i hear that,i wish someone would mistake his talent for mine
that would be so coooooooooool :D
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Still trying to get him into the Monastery in Bulgaria, but yepher, I shor nuff did get a tad cornfused atwixt the two of you. Sailor dad, as for the Obsidian slivers exiting by themselves, I have one in my right big toe, between the ball, and the joint, and it has been there for a couple of months or more now. It is near a nerve. I tried digging it out, and it is in such a position, that I can't twist my foot in a good enough position, for very long, to operate on it, and when I get the tweezers on it, it hits the nerve, and hurts like the dickens. I got it all but a small piece, and it is still there, and occasionally I will press something against it, and it will let me know it is still there real quick. :o Yeah, I wish I was as bad as Jesse is at knapping. Hmmmm maybe I will tell him that the monastery is sitting on a creek, that has nothing but amber flint boulders, and nodules in it....... ;)
Wayne
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Wayne, that might just work to get him there\but once he got there and didnt find it
you now he wouldnt stay long
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You guy's have to pardon that old Geezer. He babbles that crap when he comes over here. ;D
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He has to have a recessive gene from some distant paleo ancestor. You don't just start knapping, and six months later start turning out museum quality pieces ! :o And then take it as just no big thing...... it's easy, you just whack it here, and then push here, and see, there is a pine tree ! ::) Here I am going on a few years, and just now am able to run a longer flake fairly consistently, and turn out a functional point point every now then. And not at all pretty, just functional! :'( Jesse, you are phenomenal ! 8) At least Emory Coons, and Claude Van Order, have doing it since they were kids. ;) I don't know know how long Vryl Keeter in Oklahoma has been knapping. Maybe my lack of skill has something to do with Eddie forcing beers on me, and stuffing me with food, so I don't have time to develop a good technique, and every time I try to knapp here at home, I have to stop and go get a beer........... I can't help it, that is how Eddie trained me! ;D hmmmm, yeah, that's the ticket! ;D
Wayne
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Yall are to much..
Wayn i think you got me mixed up with Shanon aka sawfiler now.
I have been knapping for 12 years. ;)
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Well Jesse, if you and Shannon, would have gone to Bulgaria, and lived in the Monastery for five years, I wouldn't be getting you guys confused! Well none the less, you are still one heck of a knapper. ;) Oh, if you change your mind, take warm clothes, I understand it can sometimes get a little chilly over there, up in those mountains ::).......But I hear they make some mighty fine beer, and brandy, though. ;).......Ok, Shannon, makes pine trees, Jesse makes big blades, Jamie makes primitive shelters, and items, for the museums, or parks, and collects chaga, speaking of which, I have three more brewing's left in mine. I am going to have to see if I can find some in MT. Hey, Jamie, does it grow up high also? I have something on one of my birches, by my pond, that looks like Chaga, but it is about ten foot or so up, on a limb. Ok, now, Leapingbare, is Jesse, he makes big blades, and such, Shannon is Sawfiler, he makes pine trees, Jamie is Jamie, he makes primitive shelters, tools, gathers primitive foods, etc., Stickbender ........Stickbender ....is ......Aw crap! ::) ::)
Wayne..... I think..... ;D
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wayne you need meds. => take a pic of the birch ill let ya know. if its not ill get ya more.
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Alright Jamie, but I won't be going back out to Mt. till the end of April, after I get another rectal exam by IRS. :P
Wayne