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Title: Bows in the movies
Post by: Matt S. on February 21, 2011, 04:08:16 pm
What are some movies that feature extensive archery and bow screen time? Which movies catch your eye with the bows in them?

I usually sit on the couch when making my bow strings, and sometimes I want to watch a movie that features some good shots of bows in action.

Here are some movies that I can think of off the top of my head:

-The Lord of the Rings trilogy. For the most part a pretty good representation of bows with a few exceptions. It's obvious the bows are very light weight by how quickly and effortlessly the actors draw them back. I also don't think Aragorn's tiny bow would be very useful against armored foes. It is nice to see many different styles of bows, from straight stave selfbows to reflexed composites.

-Gladiator. The opening battle scene uses lots of archers loosing flaming arrows to great effect. The archers in the chariots using long composite bows to pick off the gladiators is also interesting.

-Robin Hood: Men in Tights. The best Robin Hood movie I've seen IMO 8) Lots of simple selfbows.

-Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. I don't honestly remember much from this movie except there were lots of burning arrows flying around during the opening credits. I think it did have some nice selfbows though.

-Robin Hood (Russel Crowe). I haven't seen it yet, but hear it has some good archery clips.

-Dragon Heart. I remember when the bad guy shoots some poor bloke and you get a nice long view of the bad guy's bow. It's a flatbow with some Meare Heethe style leather wrappings. When I saw it I thought "cool!, oh wait, I'm supposed to hate this guy."

-300. Comic book style (i.e. ridiculous) Persian bows. They creak loudly when drawn and their arrow heads are shaped like beetles or something. Definitely not a good movie to watch if you want realism (but I guess that's pretty obvious).

-Timeline. There's one scene towards the end where the French and English are exchanging volleys of arrows. It looks like both sides are using English Longbows. The first volley of arrows are on fire (it is night). Then the sly English bad guy gets clever and orders "Night arrows", aka arrows that aren't on fire. It took the French by surprise since they apparently were expecting the English to ignite any arrow sent their way.

-Conan the Barbarian. Subati, Conan's thief and archer friend, uses a short composite bow with good success. The evil guy uses seeking arrows "made" from snakes.

-The Gods Must be Crazy. The little bushman of the Kalahari uses a tiny little D-bow with unfletched poisoned arrows. Pretty cool.

Those are all that I can think of right now. Do you have any movies you could add?
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: stevey on February 21, 2011, 04:56:26 pm
What are some movies that feature extensive archery and bow screen time? Which movies catch your eye with the bows in them?

I usually sit on the couch when making my bow strings, and sometimes I want to watch a movie that features some good shots of bows in action.

Here are some movies that I can think of off the top of my head:

-The Lord of the Rings trilogy. For the most part a pretty good representation of bows with a few exceptions. It's obvious the bows are very light weight by how quickly and effortlessly the actors draw them back. I also don't think Aragorn's tiny bow would be very useful against armored foes. It is nice to see many different styles of bows, from straight stave selfbows to reflexed composites.

-Gladiator. The opening battle scene uses lots of archers loosing flaming arrows to great effect. The archers in the chariots using long composite bows to pick off the gladiators is also interesting.

-Robin Hood: Men in Tights. The best Robin Hood movie I've seen IMO 8) Lots of simple selfbows.

-Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. I don't honestly remember much from this movie except there were lots of burning arrows flying around during the opening credits. I think it did have some nice selfbows though.

-Robin Hood (Russel Crowe). I haven't seen it yet, but hear it has some good archery clips.

-Dragon Heart. I remember when the bad guy shoots some poor bloke and you get a nice long view of the bad guy's bow. It's a flatbow with some Meare Heethe style leather wrappings. When I saw it I thought "cool!, oh wait, I'm supposed to hate this guy."

-300. Comic book style (i.e. ridiculous) Persian bows. They creak loudly when drawn and their arrow heads are shaped like beetles or something. Definitely not a good movie to watch if you want realism (but I guess that's pretty obvious).

-Timeline. There's one scene towards the end where the French and English are exchanging volleys of arrows. It looks like both sides are using English Longbows. The first volley of arrows are on fire (it is night). Then the sly English bad guy gets clever and orders "Night arrows", aka arrows that aren't on fire. It took the French by surprise since they apparently were expecting the English to ignite any arrow sent their way.

-Conan the Barbarian. Subati, Conan's thief and archer friend, uses a short composite bow with good success. The evil guy uses seeking arrows "made" from snakes.

-The Gods Must be Crazy. The little bushman of the Kalahari uses a tiny little D-bow with unfletched poisoned arrows. Pretty cool.

Those are all that I can think of right now. Do you have any movies you could add?

I've seen and liked almost all of the movies you mentioned. I thought Gladiator was awesome, but I'm not sure how realistic the opening scene was. I've often wondered about what I call the "Hollywood shower of arrows"... One movie you didn't mention that is my favorite was BraveHeart... and it seemed very realistic. Excellent list, in any event.
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: Matt S. on February 21, 2011, 05:07:47 pm
I forgot about Braveheart because I haven't seen it in such a long time. I'll have to rent it sometime soon :)
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: Lemos on February 21, 2011, 05:10:05 pm
What about The Scorpion king and the one with Keera Knightly in blue paint( I think it was King Arthur related)
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: medicinewheel on February 21, 2011, 05:24:14 pm
Last Samurai has some archery scenes; Jaap Koppedrayer made all the bows in the movie.

I guess Tim Baker made the bow for scorpion king.
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: jonathan creason on February 21, 2011, 05:26:53 pm
Burt's recurve had a pretty important part in Deliverance.
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: Matt S. on February 21, 2011, 05:51:07 pm
Burt's recurve had a pretty important part in Deliverance.

Was that a recurve or a compound? I was thinking it was a compound bow but my memory isn't the best!

I'll have to check out the bow in the Scorpion King. That was the sequel to the Mummy, right?
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: Mechslasher on February 21, 2011, 10:03:31 pm
Avatar!
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: sailordad on February 21, 2011, 10:44:51 pm
Dances With Wolves
not alot of bow shooting
but alot of bows being carried
alot of osage by the lakota


Burts bow in deliverance was a recurve  ;)
when that movie was made i dont think wheelies were real commom yet

scorpion king wasnt realy a sequel to the mummy
the mummy returns was
scorpion king was more or less just another adventure of the same characters
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: mullet on February 22, 2011, 12:20:58 am
 I'm pretty sure Burt's bow was a Bear Grizzley.

How about, 300, Apopalypto, and Shogun.
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: Dane on February 22, 2011, 04:56:19 pm
You guys are missing a few.

The Hunt is a cool, little fairly recent low budget horror film about a bow hunt gone very bad. They use compounds, which don’t help them. At all :) Oh, don’t trespass either in creepy fenced off areas deep in the woods. It could end badly for you.

The Lost Boys: The Tribe – you only see it for a second, but Edgar Frog has a strung recurve bow just inside the door to his mobile home. I think they used a bow and arrow to kill a vampire in the original Lost Boys film, too.

Diary of the Dead, the last good George Romero zombie movie has a scene where the professor character pins a zombie kiddie to the wall with a fiberglass recurve.

Predator has Arnold making and using a bundle bow, if I remember right.

A bow and exploding arrow is featured in the sequal to Rambo.

There are fantasy arrow firing catapults in the sequel to Underworld. Even if you don’t like vamps vs. werewolves, just watch it for Kate Beckinsale in skintight outfits.

Van Helsing is not wonderful, but kinda fun, and the Hugh Jackman character uses a crazy rapid fire crossbow against harpies.

Hero has some amazing archery sequences. An amazing movie, period.

The remake of 13 Ghosts doesn’t have a bow per se, but, one of the evil ghosts is a little boy in a 1950s cowboy outfit who had the misfortune of having a broadhead tipped arrow shot through the back of his head to end his life, with the bloody head and shaft protruding from his forehead. Definitely the coolest of the ghosts in that movie.

Dane
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: NTD on February 22, 2011, 05:17:00 pm
Book of Eli
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: Dane on February 22, 2011, 05:35:57 pm
Oh, a bit of trivia related to these movies that just came to mind.

The Scorpion King is indeed a prequal to the Mummy movies, but barely related. If you have seen Gladiator, you may recall the big gladiator who helps train Russell Crow after he is enslaved. He plays an evil henchman to the main villain in Scorpion King, the guy who stabs The Rock with the poisoned weapon. And indeed, Tim Baker built the king’s bow. (Tim seems to have dropped out of sight lately, as well – anyone know why?).

There is also some archery in that crusader movie (can’t think of the name of it) that the elf from Lord of the Rings stars in. One guy gets a French crossbow bolt in the throat in an early scene, and later, I think there is archery used by both sides in the movie.

Archery is also used in that recent remake of 10,000 BC (the one without Rachael Welch).

In the remake of House of Wax (by the same guys who made House on Haunted Hill and 13 Ghosts, and in this one you see Paris Hilton get a pole driven through her head), the hero uses a crossbow from an abandoned sporting goods store to shoot one of the bad guys. As always in these kind of movies, they never make sure the bad guy is really dead, like cutting their throats, and so regret it later.

Quite a bit of archery in the recent movie Centurion.

No one mentioned that not only are their bows and arrows in King Arthur (with the lovely Kiera Knightly), but the Saxons use the gastrophetes or belly bow. That is how one of the main knight heroes dies in the final battle. I think a belly bow is used to kill the guy who was Titus in the HBO series Rome..

Dane
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: Matt S. on February 22, 2011, 06:02:39 pm
I was getting the Scorpion King and the Mummy Returns confused. I've seen the latter, but not the former and was thinking "where the heck is there a bow in this movie?" Now I'll have to see the Scorpion King if for no other reason to see Tim Baker's bow!

If you include the Rambo bow, you can't forget the Hot Shots Part Deux bow (that shoots a chicken no less).

10,000 BC: I haven't laughed so hard in a long time while watching that movie. Or maybe I should say laughing at the movie. That's probably why I don't remember any bows in it, I just remember that the pyramids were made by woolly mammoths ;D

Val Kilmer's (sp?) character in Willow used some crossbows in an ambush, but I think that movie was rather devoid of archery in general.


I love the list of all the movies people are coming up with. Gives me movie watching ideas.
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: JackCrafty on February 22, 2011, 06:11:47 pm
Most of the time when I see archery in a movie, I get a headache.

Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: JackCrafty on February 22, 2011, 06:12:59 pm
There are exceptions.   ;D
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: HatchA on February 22, 2011, 06:41:47 pm

Archery is also used in that recent remake of 10,000 BC (the one without Rachael Welch).


Raquel Welch was in "One Million Years B.C."  the film "10,000 B.C." isn't a remake or related to it in any way - except that it has numbers and letters in the title  ;)

"The 13th Warrior" has some bow scenes in it - but it's not a Molly or Holmey, as far as I can remember - more of a longbow style.

"Beowulf & Grendel"  (AMAZING movie!!!)  ALSO has some bow scenes in it and AGAIN...  they don't appear to be Moll's or Holm's...

Stallone's last Rambo movie has him using his tactical bow - not sure if I recall he closed one eye when aiming...  I know I've seen a few people do that in different flicks over the years.

I notice a LOT of things in programmes and movies that, while not ruining it for me, they definitely cause me some disappointment - such as Season one of Stargate SG1 - priest characters supposedly on a primitive type world - and the soles of their combat boots could be seen as they walked away from camera.  Also in the pilot episode for season one - the Goa-uld come through the stargate at the beginning and there's a split second shot of their feet marching from the gate and you can see AGAIN, the combat boots under the strap-on armor pieces.

I'm just pedantic like that :D

While we're on the subject of Stargate...  the episode titled "The Nox" (episode 7) has the guys get their weapons taken from them so Jack O'Niell "makes" a bow and some arrows to use.  It's about as freshly cut and scraped as the handle on my dad's 25 year old spade out in the shed.
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: sailordad on February 22, 2011, 07:48:14 pm
just thought of another bow shooting movie
its a movie about inbred,canableistic rednecks
WRONG TURN

Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: johnston on February 22, 2011, 08:37:08 pm
Last of the Dogmen has a bunch 0f cool and believable bow scenes.

Lane
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: cracker on February 22, 2011, 09:19:50 pm
My all time favorite Army Of Darkness.
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: medicinewheel on February 22, 2011, 11:00:40 pm
Most of the time when I see archery in a movie, I get a headache.

Yes, of course!
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: medicinewheel on February 22, 2011, 11:00:57 pm
There are exceptions.   ;D

Yes, of course!
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: Rick Wallace on February 23, 2011, 02:53:42 am
Yall remember Bo & Luke Duke?   They used to shoot dynamite at Roscoe P. Coletrain,,,,,,I know,its not a movie but TV is the same thing to me.......
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: stickbender on February 23, 2011, 04:21:39 am

     The original Robin Hood, with Errol Flynn, has a lot of archery.  By the way, Errol Flynn could have been an Olympic champion in fencing.  I am with you Hatch, I get too involved in what the movie characters are using, if it is correct or not.  Like The movie with Errol Flynn, about John Brown, when he raided the armory.  This was before the war between the states.  They were using cartridge pistols, and rifles !  The good, the bad, and the ugly.  Again using cartridge pistols.  They were all cap and ball!  However the Spanish Starr, which was quite popular with the south, when they could get them, was double action ! The Le mat had a 20 gauge shotgun barrel under the pistol barrel, and you moved a lever, and it would fire the shotgun barrel.  I always got a kick out of the bias, and outright bullcrap of Hollywood, when in war movies, the German grenades blew up very little, but the American grenades, blew up jeeps, houses, and would blow a dozen Germans into the air.  Yeah, right.  Also the Americans would hide behind a little eight inch thick log, and the German 7 and 8 mm bullets would not go through, but the American bullets, went through big trees, and all kinds of stuff.  Uh huh, sure.  Oh, and it was by international agreement that the machine gunners, had to shoot at your feet only, or in a curving pattern on the walls of buildings.  Anywho the original Robin Hood is my all time favorite.    Didn't the little fairies in Willow, carry tiny bows?  One of them had a mouse head hat, and skin.  OK, here's one you might have missed......Hiawatha.  Cartoon, but still had a bow and arrow in it...... And the Indian in the cabinet.......I thought it was a compound that Burt had......Shoot, I have a Bear Grizzly....... ;D  Well who shot Cock Robin, I did said the sparrow, with my little bow and arrow.  I knew those sparrow eggs weren't supposed to be blue! :o ;D ;D

                                                                                        Wayne
Title: Re: Bows in the movies
Post by: jamie on February 23, 2011, 09:15:57 am
favorite archery scene is in the last samurai, when the young samurai is defending the narrow bridge so his father can escape