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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Yeomanbowman on May 24, 2007, 09:17:09 am

Title: Antler nocks
Post by: Yeomanbowman on May 24, 2007, 09:17:09 am
In coversation with a vegan archer, I suggested using antler for nocks as they naturally drop off and can be harvested.  He had been told that deer antlers were unsuitable, I don't know why. 
If they are soaked for 2 weeks they are soft enough to work, and a further week drying enables them to be glued on.
These are some antler nocks I made and fitted to one of my self yew bows.  It's a lower weight warbow (80 at 28" and around 100 at 32") but I see no reason why they would not work on a higher warbow weight.  The antler is a lot tougher than horn but allows less artistic expression, however, they give the bow a utilitarian look that appeals to me.
Cheers,
Jeremy
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Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: SimonUK on May 24, 2007, 12:13:32 pm
They look great Jeremy. It must be nice to have a bow thats a bit unique.
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: mullet on May 24, 2007, 10:52:56 pm
I think they look great.It gives it an authentic utilitarian look.
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 24, 2007, 11:53:59 pm
Nice bow, those tips are really cool.  Justin
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: Kviljo on May 25, 2007, 07:44:34 am
The density varies quite much, from pretty spungy to rock-hard. The outer layer is usually pretty dense though. I've used antler on my latest to-be-100-120# yew bow. They haven't failed yet, but I haven't tested them too much either.

If I remember correctly, reindeer antler were imported to England from Norway in medieval times.
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: duffontap on May 25, 2007, 12:19:18 pm
Those tips look really nice.  Here's one I did on a flatbow last summer.

      J. D. Duff

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Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: ChrisD on May 25, 2007, 03:35:12 pm
Lovely idea. I had the same idea myself and have some Sika deer antler in the cellar.

What deer did you use and why soak it?

ChrisD
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: duffontap on May 25, 2007, 07:20:38 pm
I used Elk and worked it dry.

      J. D.
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: jb.68 on May 28, 2007, 08:05:38 pm
I saw these horns on saturday and they really do look very nice.
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Chris, Jeremy was saying that he had to soak them for two weeks because the antler is so hard and that soaking it softens it enough to work on.
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: ChrisD on May 29, 2007, 10:42:44 am
Well, I had a bit of a play this weekend with sika deer antler. Its very very hard - more like bone than horn, in fact a lot like a flake of some kind of stone.

I'll put it in a bucket tonight and forget about it for a bit.

C
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: Pat B on May 29, 2007, 11:34:27 am
I used deer antler tips on a hickory backed ERC bow I donated at the NC State Shoot this weekend. The bow came out nice but looked like it had more set than I expected until someone mentioned I had put the nocks on backwards >:(  ;D.  Oh well, can't win them all! ::)    Pat
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: duffontap on May 30, 2007, 07:17:20 pm
I used deer antler tips on a hickory backed ERC bow I donated at the NC State Shoot this weekend. The bow came out nice but looked like it had more set than I expected until someone mentioned I had put the nocks on backwards >:(  ;D.  Oh well, can't win them all! ::)    Pat

Is that even possible?

      J. D.
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: Pat B on May 31, 2007, 01:45:28 am
Like this...
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: Pat B on May 31, 2007, 01:47:18 am
oops!...Like this... ::)      Pat

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Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: SimonUK on May 31, 2007, 07:24:50 am
It raises the question, why we have this convention of forward curving nocks? Is there any practical advantage? Could it be purely cosmetic, to give the illusion of a recurve?

I haven't tried making nocks yet, but I wonder whether these forward curving nocks just add to the weight of the tips unecessarily.
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: Yeomanbowman on May 31, 2007, 06:19:03 pm
Pat,
Do you have people behind you diving for cover when you shoot? ;)
Seriously, Your nocks look OK on an aesthetic level when reversed from normal.  I think they look quite interesting.
Jeremy
Title: Re: Antler nocks
Post by: Pat B on June 01, 2007, 10:17:27 am
Thanks Jeremy. It just looked funny when I first looked at it. Like I said, looked like the bow had more set than it actually has but that was an illusion because the horn was pointing backwards. ::)   Pat