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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: nocams on May 01, 2011, 01:25:44 pm
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Mason and I left late Friday night and since no one else has started a thread yet..... Here it is.
We had a great time as usual and wanted to thank each and everyone who helped us learn more again this year. The new knapping pit is awesome and thank goodness we did not need the roof this year for rain cover. Weather was perfect ! Got to experiment with new kinds of rock and I think Mason may have fell in love with dacite ? Keokuck is still my favorite for now. Thanks Bob for the help on getting rid of square edges ! I think I got it now. Good to meet SailorDad and wife as well as NCsnipe. Hope everyone had a great time and gets home safe and sound.
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Hope to see some pictures from the new "Pit" Love Dacite ' Frank
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First off I would like to thank everyone at the classic for a really great weekend, The new an improved knapping pit was great, an I would like to thank Jesse an Shannon an many others for all the free advice and help that I recieved all weekend long. I got to meet alot of folks who before I only knew thru the Pa. site. I did manage to make a few points also this weekend, Thanks again everybody. I really had a enjoyable time. Bob
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That Horse creek turned out awesome Bob ! I watched you as you made it but did not want to distract you while you were doing it. You were deep in concentration on that one. It shows. Thanks agains for all your help and it was good to spend time with you again. We got to get you moved South bud.
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I didnt get any pictures, but sure was glad to be able to sit and watch masters work. Really appreciate Sailordad's help, Shannon for letting me watch and ask dumb questions about pressure flaking and Jesse for giving me a play by play on each flake he took off and as to why, even if I was directly in the line of fire when he celebrated taking a nasty spot off. ::) Enjoyed everyone's company. No shortage of BS and knowledge...all being shared equally.
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Who won the Johnstone knapping contest?
David
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Did not have a tank to brake this year ;/
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man that was fun wasnt guys ;D
that was the best time i have ever had in my life
met alot of very nice folks at the classic and got to watch some seriously talented knappers
got some nice lesons from Jesse that i am going to put to good use
watched him make a couple of realy killer points/blades
cant wait for him to post pics when he gets the chance
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I had a great time, saw some nice points made, and met some great people. Wish I had spent more time in the Pit, though. Being a Social Butterfly can take up you time. ;D ;)
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I had a great time, saw some nice points made, and met some great people. Wish I had spent more time in the Pit, though. Being a Social Butterfly can take up you time. ;D ;)
It's ok Eddie...save some of those preforms you have and bring em back next year :-X ;D
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What Pre-Forms??? Some Kids set them down and splattered them all over the Benches...with Hammers and Rocks...... :P
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What Pre-Forms??? Some Kids set them down and splattered them all over the Benches...with Hammers and Rocks...... :P
Mike....sometimes text hides the sarcasm....so I add smilies...I missed the eye rolling, sarcastic smilie....but yeah, I know they beat them to pieces. What a shame.
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Ohh...I get it now............ ::).... ::).... ;)
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eddie, i know what them kids did wasnt funny
I had a great time, saw some nice points made, and met some great people. Wish I had spent more time in the Pit, though. Being a Social Butterfly can take up you time. ;D ;)
It's ok Eddie...save some of those preforms you have and bring em back next year :-X ;D
justin,i dont care who you are,thats funny ;D :D :D ;)
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I heard one little girl say that Girl Scouts would have never done anything like that. :) ;D. I found a few they missed in the bottom of the bucket. ;D
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Eddie- them lazy scouts. They quit before the job was done ;) Just kidding- that sucks, and they ruined a few tools too.
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Edie.....That could not have happen to a nicer guy.....you gota love kids.....LOL......................Curt
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Don't feel bad Eddie. One of the little snot nosed yard apes destroyed the best piece of that green rock I had...then tried to steal it! Ohhh if I was his daddy!!!! >:( I'd take an acre of hide off his ass and every time it grew back I'd do it again!
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That's funny shannon.;D
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Had about the same thing happen with a Bow this weekend....but I believe a Wise Old Injun...has a Plan.... ;)
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Shannon , which day did all of this happen? Sounds like we may have a litttle unsupervised problem . I'm always afraid that one of thes kids are going to get cut while monkeying around in the pit. Don't get me wrong I'm all for youth knappers but where are there parents ??? Bob
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Bob they were the scouts. There were about 30 of them and only a few troop leaders.
I ran them out of the pit a bunch.
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Jesse, that is truly sad that it was the scouts, :( Must of happened after we left on sat.) Sorry to here about your loss of stones an bifaces an probably some tools. I think you have the right idea Shannon. Later bob
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Bob, shannons preform got broke sunday AM
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Bob, It happened when that female , scout dressed woman was sitting across from Jesse watching him knap. The one with the boy scout hat on. :) I watched a couple pilfer some of Jesse's preforms sunday morning.
But, hey, maybe some are inspired to knap. ;D
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My fingers got chewed up from all the knapping. I think I'll take a vacation from my vacation and let them heal for a while. It was worth it!!! ;D
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I don't know Eddie after the chewing I heard Miss Joanie gave them ,I ant sure they will ever be the same,she has a way with kids that don't listen.I am really sorry about the trouble and wished I had know about it earlier,I assure you I would have taken care of it. :) :)
Pappy
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They had all my knapping tools scattered all over the place, I don't know what I'm missing yet. Thankfully miss Joanie kicked them out.
VB
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ya when i seen all of them kids in the knapping pit just smashing rock on the benches
i knew right then and there that my bucket(regardless of how heavy it had gotten from buying rock from jesse)
had sat there long enough,so i bear hugged it and off to my campsite it went
i dont mind leaving it sit and having adult type people borrow my tools and put them back
hell i even told them too,i even said you can bust my rock if you want to
only condition was they had to leave a pretty point in place of each rock they would hit
no one hit any of it ;)
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I went out ths afternoon to my "Pit" and noticed I was missing a Bopper after the Classic. Did anybody find a medium size, short handled Bopper made by Mark Bracken? And I don't know how many small diamond files I'm missing. :-\
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Eddie, I borrowed a big one from you Sat night but remember handing it back to you. You were sitting on the edge of the pit facing the eating area talking to somebody when I gave it back. Is that the one you're missing?
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Allright guys. I get the jest that the scouts were a pain but did anybody besides Bob, Jesse, John and Shannon make anything over the weekend? Some of us might like to see some pictures, hahahahahhaha ;D.
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Allright guys. I get the jest that the scouts were a pain but did anybody besides Bob, Jesse, John and Shannon make anything over the weekend? Some of us might like to see some pictures, hahahahahhaha ;D.
I made gravel...I put my stuff away and didn't knap much and instead of breaking more rock, watched Shannon, Jesse, and Patrick.........Patrick is a factory when it comes to tinnnnny bird points.
Won't but a couple others besides the ones you mentioned even knapping. Mason and his dad, but they left Friday afternoon I think.
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That's ok Justin - wouldn't mind seeing your gravel too ;). And Patrick, how could I forget Patrick? Sorry crafty, now I remember that pic of the tiny point you made and gave away. Don't matter if it's points and blades. I just wanna see what happened in the pit and what I missed :).
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Cowboy, I did, but if I say anything, Shannon will make fun of me. ::)
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Swallow your pride and post away Eddie ;D.
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Shannon, Got that one and remember when you handed it back. It is the next size down.
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And Patrick, how could I forget Patrick? Sorry crafty, now I remember that pic of the tiny point you made and gave away. I just wanna see what happened in the pit and what I missed :).
OK Paul ...here are a couple that Patrick knocked out for Me...I am telling You ...this Guy can knapp..even the Junk Jesse tosses...he makes Points from ...like a Champ!
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Cowboy, I did, but if I say anything, Shannon will make fun of me. ::)
Nope. Paul, Eddie made a very nice coral Newnan. It went in the point case that was raffled off O:)
I made one pine tree but gave it to WolfWatcher and never got a picture of it. I also made a couple hunting points but they're on arrows...and no pics of those either.
I also made a couple from that green rock I got from DLH but he has the pretty one.
Jesse made the one that stole the show. It was a KILLER clovis. Maybe he'll post a picture of it.
And Patrick...man oh man! Talk about getting the most out of a piece of rock. I'll put up a picture of the one he gave me tomorrow.
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Now we're talkin! Thanks mike! Man that Patrick has more patients than I do! Beautiful tiny points! I've seen some of the awesome points and blades - muchas gracias Shannon, looking forward to your pic's. Got any of the pit itself? I keep hearing about the new pit. Looks like it's in the same place, been expanded or what? Thanks fellow knappers ;D.
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Paul, the pit is pretty much the same as the last time I saw it but now there are more places to sit. I think that the pile of gravel was also getting too high and a lot of it was removed? Jesse would know how to answer that one.
I would show off some of my points I made in the pit but I think I gave them all away. ;D
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i made a few preforms
and only to points the whole time
one of which went into the point case for the raffle
the other i gave to Indian Joe
he left a bucket of rock in the pit
Mason tossed me a spall and i made a point from it
i figured it was Joes rock,so the point rightfully belonged to him too ;)
i'll go thru my pics nad see what i have for pics
maybe ill just start a new thread of my own
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Did anybody get a picture of the case after it was filled?
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I don't recall seeing anyone take any pictures of it Eddie :-\
Pappys son won it, so it shouldn't be too hard to get one if he can ever figure out how to use his new camera.
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Well I made a real raid on some fantastic points. Shannon gave me a beautiful pine tree with mountains and a blue river running thru it. Would be happy to have you come for a visit to see it as I am too old and dumb to put pictures on the PA site. Jesse gave me a wonderful two sided full length fluted point. Am not sure what name to give it but am thinking of locking it up in my gun case. Mr. Crafty blessed me with a hand made arrow with a perfect tiny point. It went into the raffle quiver (was a real temptation to just sneak in and ride off with it Indian style). That fellow is talented. Then there was the heart shaped point that Sailordad gave me and the hafted point necklace that will always remind me of him. A/Ho Indian Joe
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Joe...you send them Pictures to Me...and I will get them on here for you...no problem...
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Joe, with all due respect
that is not a heart shaped point
its a "snyders" style point
i am glad you like it ,and the pendant ;)
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;D
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Dear Dad: Since I am pretty safe here in Wyoming, I will tell you I am calling it "a heart"! guess you will just have to try to catch me here in my mountains! A/Ho Udo Indian Joe
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Joe,
its your and you can call it what you want
i feel its fair to tell you
i used my limp wristed technique to make it ;D
ya never know,i may just take you up on trying to catch you in the mountains
someday
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Dear Dad: I will give you a hint as to the mountain range! Start looking south of Yellowstone. When you come looking just be sure to bring your lovely wife! We will be hiding just past all those buffalo in the front pasture! A/Ho Udo Indian Joe
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Joe York aka....Wolfwatcher...an old worn out Pipeline Welder asked me to post these here Pictures for Him...because His Confuser got Him....well Confused.... ;D...gotta tease ya...Ya Danged Rod Burner...You know I was once told that a Good Welder could weld anything...including ...Broken Hearts and Buttholes....the latter just took a little longer......flux keeps running out of the crack.... ::)
Mike: This pine tree was given to me at the Classic by Shannon. I call it "A River Runs Through It"! The light is casting a shadow over the mountains that I can see from my porch! Shannon doesn't know it, but I am adopting him and his family! A/Ho Joe
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Mike: This is a blown up photo of a point Jesse blessed me with at the Classic. It has full length flutes on both sides. Am considering keeping it in my gun safe! Am hoping Jesse will start going around to the universities and teaching his knapping skills. He is deploying to Afghanistan in a month or so and I pray for a safe tour of duty. A/Ho Joe
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WOW thats got to be the presttiest pine tree yet
very nice material
and that cumberland,well its just plain incredible
nice work from two great knappers,and people
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You can't adopt me Joe...I already adopted you!
I consider it an honor just to know you and always leave from seeing you with a different outlook on life.
One day we'll fish in that river and my son will dip his toes in it too ;)
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Great thread and awesome points. Just blessed that we get to hang out with you guys. Cannot imagine trying to learn all this on our own and not having access to good rock. Mason and I are heading to Compton in June and will spend some time knapping in Yankee Land.
What books do Mason and I need to help us along with knapping ?
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Nocams, if you realy want to kanpp in yankee land
come up here in July,and then again in august,and february
we have a knapp in down in Lake Benton Mn,in august
up in Milaca Mn the other two times
february's knapp in we have an ice knapping contest ;)
you should pm me your guys address
i have a box of my so called waste flakes i can send if you pay shipping
it wont be the best pieces of rock,but a nice variety of materials
with some various sizes,and most should produce a point if your carefull
these are good for practice if nothing else
mostly for pressure type work,some could be percussed (sp,word?)
it was nice meeting you and mason
peace,
tim
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Wished we could attend more knapp ins but with gas like it is it will be all we can do to make Compton. That is a 1200 mile round trip for us.
Preciate the scrap flake offer ! We need that for sure cause so far all I have been trying to learn is percussion. Bout time for Mason to teach me some Ishi stick and small flaker work. If you will, pick a USPS flat rate box that will fit what scraps ya got and I will send you the postage back ASAP. It was nice meeting ya'll too, wished we could have stayed the whole weekend to spend more time with everyone in the knapping pit.
Here is our addy......
Jimmy Shelton
P.O. Box 595
Sequatchie, TN 37374
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This is Shannon's point from the classic finally got it posted now that finals are over sorry it took so long. Thank you for the point Shannon I love it.
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Couple of jackcraftys points from the classic really like them too amazes me how small he makes them thanks for letting me have a couple of them.
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Nice points Patrick made, he made me pay out the Wazoo ::). Jimmy, I got your Addy in my book, I'll send you some flakes as soon as I get a break from work. Don't worry about the postage.
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I'll try to get the one Patrick gave me posted soon. It's preeeety ;D
Danial...MACRO... hint hint ;)
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Thanks Mullet !!! If and when I learn to make a decent point I will return points to you for the flakes. I gots lots to learn that is for sure. Thank goodness Mason is a patient teacher. Sure is hard for me to watch him hit MY rock when he is trying to show me something. I know OutbackBob got a kick out of watching us take the rock out of each other's hand all weekend. Almost looked like WWF wrestling in the pit a time or two, haha ! Hopefully we provided some folks cheap entertainment ???