Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Cameroo on May 12, 2011, 12:49:40 am
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I wanted to see if I could make some cheap-ass stumpers so I can stop using (and losing) my good ones. I bought some 3/8 poplar dowels for about $1.00 each, and got some of these whatchamacallit nuts for heads. I just cut them to length, screwed the nuts on, and filed/sanded a crude knock on the other end. This one was just an experiment because I wasn't sure how durable the poplar would be, so I cheaped out and used duct tape for fletching. Seems to have done the trick. I punished the hell out of this thing and it's holding up so far, so I'll probably proceed with the other 11.
18 bucks for a dozen stumpin arrows... not bad!
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that'll work ! poplar is actually a good arrow wood and often overlooked by the PO cedar shooters
get you some and compress them to 11/32 and i think you will be surprised
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If you decide you like the concept, American Woodcrafters has poplar and birch for around $25.00/100. Even with culls, that's pretty cheap shootin'.
Good job on that arrow, BTW. Those will serve you well.
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real cool!!!!!!!!!! could you show how to fletch???? that could be a huge money saver!!!!! I love this place JEFFW
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Nice for the price. I've not tried Ductape fletching, looks like it might jump like vanes off the shelf. Had any problems?
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:)
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So here's a little more detail on how I made these. It's gonna be pretty pic-heavy because I figured the pictures would explain it better than I can.
I start by flexing the dowel to find where the spine is the weakest, and then stick it in the vice with the side that flexes the most pointing vertically, so when I cut the knock, the stiff sides will be parallel to the bow. I cut into the end with a hacksaw about 1/4" down.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/stumper/P1010858.jpg)
Then I use a thin strip of emery cloth twisted up to open the slot a bit. Have your bow nearby to test fit it on the serving. You want it just tight enough to stay on the string
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Then I take it over to the belt sander and taper the end just a bit. This could be done with sand paper, I just wanted to speed up the process.
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With a little bit of touch-up sanding, I get this.
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Next I cut the shaft to length. The shaft needs a slight taper on the head-end, just to get the threads started on the acorn nut. I put the nut in the vice and start turning the shaft in, trying to keep it threading on as straight as possible.
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For the duct tape fletching, I tear off a strip a little over 15 inches (for three 5 inch fletches), lay down on a piece of wax paper, and cut it into 5 inch strips with a straight-edge and knife.
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Next, I cut a piece of wax paper a little over 5 inches long. You need at least one of the 5 inch sides to be straight. Pull one of the 5 inch pieces off the wax paper and lay it down sticky-side up. Now I take the piece of paper I just cut, and lay it along the bottom edge of the tape. I just eyeball it, but I imagine it's just under 1/4" on the tape.
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Now carfully fold the tape over onto itself, making sure the long edges line up together.
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Now I draw the outline of the fletch onto the tape and cut it off. You can use whatever pattern you prefer, just make sure the taper ends up at the edge of the wax paper, like this.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/stumper/P1010875.jpg)
Next, I lay the shaft down, and mark where the fletch will be layed down. You can see by the marks, there's a slight helical twist. It's a good idea to start with the cock feather, which will be perpendicular to the nock. I wasn't paying attention here and made the first one parallel to the knock, but it worked out ok.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/stumper/P1010876.jpg)
Now, peel the tape open where the wax paper sits in between the layers.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/stumper/P1010877.jpg)
Using the marks on the dowel, place the tape on as straight as you can.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/stumper/P1010878.jpg)
Rub the tape well on the shaft once it's in place, then carefully peel of the wax paper from the other side, and rub it down good to get a good stick.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/stumper/P1010879.jpg)
Proceed with the next fletch, laying it down along the edge of the first one.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/stumper/P1010880.jpg)
Finish it off the same way with the third fletch. With a little bit of trial and error on how much tape you use for the "flaps", you can get them spaced out symmetrically without the tape overlapping. And there you have it. Poor mans fletching. It may not be the most durable, but works in a pinch.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/cbergerman/640/stumper/P1010882.jpg)
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Really cool ideas, the acorn nut idea is cheap and makes a perfect blunt and I also like the twisted emory cloth trick. thanks
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Nice for the price. I've not tried Ductape fletching, looks like it might jump like vanes off the shelf. Had any problems?
I haven't noticed any problems, but I'm no expert. They seem to work fine for their intended purpose, which is blasting milk jugs in the back yard. I wouldn't use them for competitions or anything ;)
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I love it!
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Thanks for the pics and the tip about the twisted emery cloth. great job!
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Awesome build-along! I was wondering how you built those fletches!
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Thanks!!!!!! really cool,,, you could have a 1\2 doz fletches folded and papered in your quiver and repair in the woods???? heck a doz arrows 20 shots each before re-taping 240 shots sounds even better to me now!!!! thanks a bunch!!! JEFFW
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Very nice ideas! I like the way you cut the self nocks. Jawge
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Great idea with the arrows, emory cloth and fletching. The Duck tape gave me an idea also. It would work great for fish arrows.
Oh, yea, those nuts are called Crown nuts. ;)
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some good ideas! with the nock, i would wrap with silk or heavy cotton to reinforce it. it's not a pretty picture when the string splits the nock.
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Aaaaahhhh..... necessity is the mother of invention. Good work, buddy!
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some good ideas! with the nock, i would wrap with silk or heavy cotton to reinforce it. it's not a pretty picture when the string splits the nock.
Good call, never thought of that.
I got some judos in the mail today, will probably be making a few more up. Adam, I could use some feathers ;)
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Give me a shout. I'm back from working out of town. I got home last night, and I'll be spending the next 3 days in the shop getting ready for the LV class. Come on over for a visit! I think I have a couple of feathers kickin' around.