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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Pat B on June 27, 2007, 09:36:59 pm
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Well, as in our national elections the vote was sparse but we have results none the less. 42.9% voted to donate the CBP sets to Conservation/Wildlife Organizations.
Brian(KOAN) talked to his brother that is president(I believe) of the local Wild Turkey Federation. They are interested in having one set donated to them to be raffled at the National Convention in February. Nothing definite has been promised without all involved here agreeing so if you like this or if you have a problem with it, please speak up.
If anyone has a connection with the Rocky Mountain Elk Federation or any other national organization please let me know so we can contact them about our donation.
Pat
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Anything's fine with me really - just want to know the outcome :).
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I can also have us hooked up with the NWTF if you need it Pat.
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Thanks guys. Eddie, I'll let you know if we need a little extra pull. ;) Pat
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I am on the local commity of the RMEF. We have our local fall banquet scheduled for 08/02/07. We could auction one set then or I can check with our regional guy and see about getting it into the big banquet that they put on every year.
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Shannon, It would be great if we can get it in the regional or national banquets. Will you check on that and let me know what they say. With each CBP set goes a complete set(except1 issue) of back issues of PA. Please let them know that whatever they raise, money wise, they keep but Primitive Archer Magazine gets the credit. At some point, we will have photos of both sets to show them and I believe a certificate with all the participants listed.
Thanks for stepping up and helping with this. Pat
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??? ::) ;)
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you know how i feel
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Pat,
Our regional guy is out of town until after the 4th. As soon as he gets back I will have some information for you.
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Thanks Shannon. Pat
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Pat,
I done some digging and found out that the big RMEF event(ELK CAMP 2008) is held in Reno, Nevada. The dates are 02/21/08 - 02/24/08. Do we have anyone on the board that lives in or near Reno. It would be nice if we could get someone from here to go the auction and get up and say a little bit about PA and explain what went into the making of the community bow. It might help the archery set bring more money if we had someone that could take some pictures of the winning bidder of both bow sets and the winning bidders and run a small story in PA about it. That would surely help raise attention for PA and bring the foundations more money to help the wildlife. Sorry about rambling on. It is raining today and I can't work on the house and my bow tools are packed up so I am kind of bored.
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Shannon, An article about the Community Bow Projects is an excellent idea. Last year, Hillbilly wrote a very good article about the Eastern Community Bow Project, a Cayuga style bow with all the trimmings. ;D
If there are any writers out there that would like to do an article for PA about this, please speak up!
The timing for the for their national convention is perfect, knowing how long it takes us to get things coordinated. ;D
Do we know where all of the items for each set is? Who lives near enough to Reno and would be willing to talk in front of an audience about the CBP and PA.
Thanks for checking into this for us, Shannon. ;) Pat.
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I just heard back from Shannon about the CBP set going to RMEF for their national convention. They are requesting pics of the items in the set, information about the building process and all involved and a fair market value for the set.
I think Gordon and/or Dane have a list of folks that contributed to the Northern set and what they did. Does anyone have the same for the Southern set? I have the Southern Bow and arrows. I can take pics of them but would rather have the complete set to work with.
I'd appreciate any help with this and as soon as possible so we don't hold up the process as far as these national organizations are concerned. Thanks for your help. Pat
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RMEF would like all the info about the CBP set by August 1. Pat
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I had nothing to do with either bow so it is really none of my bussiness but could it be possible for the sets to be raffled rather than auctioned. I think a lot of our comunity would like to buy chances to win, I know I would and I think we as members might be able to sell lots of chances, The chances would also be on sale at the banquet and the conservation could still keep the money for wildlife and P.A. still geyts the good press. Just thought it might rais more money and we could all have a chance to win. Just an Idea. Kenneth
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With Kenneth (Little John) on this. ...............bob
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Yup Kenneth makes sense
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I don't know how these organizations handle the donations but we will have to go with however they deal with it. Justin has already said that he would put an advanced bid of $500 on one of the bows to insure that we don't give them away. As far as I'm concerned the money is secondary and the promotion of PA in primary!...but we want their worth to at least be considered.
Kenneth, that is an excellent idea. If the Turkey Federation and Elk Federation will go for that than everyone will have a chance to bid. Pat
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Just wondering if a photo spread has or will be done of the bows? Also will it be in PA?
Should make for one heck of a centerfold ;D
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Dana, I have the Southern Community bow and arrows. I plan to take pics when I get everything else with the set. It would be great if someone would write an article for PA about our Community Bow Projects. I am in the process of writing to RMEF about the projects and will send pics and a list of participants and their part in the project. They need this info to consider our proposal. We will do the same with NWTF and the Northern Community Bow Project. Pat
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Please let us know what you all decide and if/how we can bid on these bows. Thank you.
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Thanks fer the update Pat, I'm anxious as all hell to see the completed sets as I'm sure all of us are.
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Makete. We are hoping RMEF and NWTF will accept these archery sets to auction off at their national conventions. Justin Snyder has already said he would put in a reserve bid of $500 on the Southern set and if you would like to do a similar reserve bid for the Northern set we will mention that in our letter to NWTF. If you would prefer not to do the reserve bit, you will be able to bid at the convention like anyone else. All the moneys goes to these organizations but the credit goes to Primitive Archer Magazine. Pat
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I need some more info...What is Ron's last name and where do you live? Skeaterbait, your full name and home? And Dane your last name?
I'm trying to get all this done and sent out by the end of the month. Thanks Pat
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Pat, when I sugested a raffle or lottery it was intended so we could buy 20 0r 40 dollars worth of chances to win by a drawing to be held at hhe convention. I think a lot more of us could participate like that than having to try to be high bidder. Maybe the chances could be sold thru the forum and also at the convention. Kenneth
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Kenneth, I don't know how these organizations handle their drawings or raffles. Our main intentions with the CBP is to promote PA. The idea of donating them to one of these organizations was to get as much publicity for PA as we can. Last year the Eastern Community Bow set was raffled off at MoJam and not much money was raised for charity and not much publicity was achieved for PA Magazine. By going with these national organizations we hope to not only get the attention of the folks attending the event but also publicity from the national organization. This years sets were never intended to be raffled off for the members to be able to buy a raffle ticket. If someone would like to handle the 2008 CBP and set it up that way, they are welcomed to do so. I jumped on this years project because it was getting lost in the shuffle and I didn't want that to happen again. I have seen at least one set totally disappear with out a trace and I'm not going to let that happen to this years project.
When I hear back from NWTF and RMEF I will inform everyone what they have to say about our proposal. I have until the end of July to get everything together for these organizations and that time is running out. Pat
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pat i havent heard back from keenan and i believe he has the quiver and arras. i hope everything is ok with him cause i know he had some trouble for a while there. gordon do you have any way of reaching him. peace
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Pat,
Rons last name is Johnson and he lives in Marshfield, MO.
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Thanks Shannon. I wanted to be sure he, and everyone involved gets credit for what they did on the CBP. Pat
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Pat, not to sound opiniated or try to run the show here as you are doing a gerat job as always, and I never have the time for any thing. Just thought it could accomplish the same goals for P.A. and the RMEF and The wild turkey foundation, and maybe earn more money for the animals and birds. Any way I have no ax to grind any way and how ever it turns out you know I am a team player and will be happy with it. Later Kenneth
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Kenneth. I know your intentions. ;) and I appreciate your input. Unfortunately for this year we don't have the time. With our next CBP we should discuss where they are going before, or at least while we are building the set(s). Most of us are just into the building and discussion aspects of the CBP. The process takes so long and the spaces between progressions go without activity so the interest wains. I know everyone has a life to live so non-vital projects take a back seat, as it should be.
I'll be sending a letter to RMEF shortly with our proposal. Along with the letter will be a list of contributers, where they are from and what part they had in the process, and some photos. I don't even know if they will except out proposal. Once I hear back from them I will know what to expect from them and how they run the show. We might be able to use your idea after all but until I hear back, its only a guess. Pat
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Oh I am sure they will accept the offer graciously, I think all sponsers are welcome to any organization, and I would think your offer would fit in better than some. I think some one will be getting an awsome set, hope they appreciate it for what it is. Kenneth
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I got a box in the mail a while back and to my surprise(even though Dane told me) there were 2 beautiful, hand woven, hand stitched bow socks with a band of linen as an accent. One green and one blue and with a braided linen tie string with glass bead terminals. The pics don't do them justice. These are part of Danes donation to both Community Bow Projects. Here are a few pics. Thanks Dane! ;) Pat
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Dang Pat, I think we all need to pitch in and get you a new target for your B-Day. Maybe we can find one with horns so you know what they look like when you are hunting. ;D Well at least another can of foam and some brown spray paint. Would it help if I shoot all your deer with yellow paintballs just before the hunt. Then it will be just like practice. Justin
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I will put a $500.00 reserve on the northern bow. I really need a new bow and this should be it. Hope that this is okay with the RMEF or the NWTF or whom ever is doing the auction.
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Makete, I'll let NWTF know there will be a $500 reserve on their set when I send them the info. Thanks! Pat
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Way to go makete thats some yooper pride, we do need to hook up.
Dane's bow socks are incredible ;D
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;D ;D ;D From one yooper to another,thanks. I saw those bow socks and figured if that is some of the craftmanship that went in to this project then I wanted it.
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Dane and I worked a trade out and I have one of those socks comin ;D ;D ;D
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:o :P
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I hope you get it Makete. It is a lovely bow and with the hand-made sock, arrows, and quiver it would be well worth what you paid for it.
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Hey, thanks for posting the pics, and thanks for the kind comments. Dana, your's is a'coming. :)
Dane
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I hope I get it too. But I also hope that it goes for $1000.00 or more. I also hope that these bow projects do the things that we all hope they do, get the attention of hunderds of new people to join P.A. Maybe even thousands.
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The socks look great!...Do we have pics yet of the northern set we can get to my Bro'....Brian
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Brian. I need, not only the pics, but an e-mail address for whomever at NWTF. I have a letter composed with a list of participants(I think I have them all), what they did and where they are from. Pat
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I sent an e-mail with a letter I composed to Tom Jones of RMEF offering our Community Bow Project to their organization to be raffled(or however they do it) off at their national convention in February of 2008, in the name of Primitive Archer Magazine. The reply I got back from Tom was encouraging...."Thanks Pat. This is great..." ;D He requested pics so I sent a few of the bow that I had taken, a few of the arrows and one of the bow sock(without my shot out 3D deer ;)). I'll let you know what he says when I hear back from him.
NOW! For you Yanks ;D I need to be sure of all of the participants, where they are from and what part they played in the Northern Community Bow Project so I can contact NWTF about our proposal and donation. I will look through the back pages of this and other threads about the project but if anyone that had anything to do with the Northern Project please let me know so I can get in touch with NWTF soon. Thanks Pat
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I just received an e-mail from Travis Scott, Regional Field Supervisor, NWTF. Travis was pleased and excited with our offer of the Northern Community Bow project, to be raffled off at the NWTF National Convention in Atlanta in February. ;D He will be sending me some forms to fill out because they are a non-profit organization and you all know how the government has to get in on it. ;D.
I would like to get a handle on where everything in the Northern set is and be sure that everyone involved is represented. I have the bow sock, I think Ryan has the bow, and Keenan has the arrows. I believe NWTF will pay the shipping. As I find out more, I'll keep ya'll posted. Pat
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