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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Kegan on September 07, 2007, 07:58:51 pm

Title: Made some meat makers
Post by: Kegan on September 07, 2007, 07:58:51 pm
Got some squirrel arrows done today. Foudn some shafting from Minuteman behind all my junk, so I figured to try 'em out. Don't remember what they are, but they work well :). Got a 5" ducttape two-fletch on 'em (outta feathers and bark). At 30" they're four inches longer than my draw, hopefully it help with accuracy (I need all the help I can get ;D). Just gave them slanted, fire hardened tips. Not the neatest, straightest, prettiest, or in any way best arrows- but most shoot straight and hard so I'm content :).

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Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: DanaM on September 07, 2007, 10:25:06 pm
Way to improvise Kegan, look just fine to me.
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: cowboy on September 07, 2007, 10:28:18 pm
Yep, that's modern day makin do ;D. Look like they aughta make meat, that's all that counts.
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: possum on September 08, 2007, 08:44:43 am
You might be a redneck if...

possum ;D
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: lowell on September 08, 2007, 10:01:10 am
Primitive man would have used duct tape too, if he'd had it !!! ;)


 
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: possum on September 08, 2007, 11:35:45 am
Don't get me wrong, I love it.  I love the ingenuity even more.  But c'mon... it IS duct tape. ;) ::)

possum
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Kegan on September 08, 2007, 03:26:42 pm
Woulda loved to use bark, but I'm out :P. Tried leaves for a few hours, but they kept getting torn up. So, I gave in and used duct tape. Didn't really wanna, as I wanted to keep 'em primitive, but I use steel to make my bows, a paracord string, sandpaper and a hacksaw on my other hunting arrows, and so I just to heck with it. All I know is those squirrels will taste all the same, duct tape or not ;).
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: jamie on September 08, 2007, 11:20:50 pm
quick thinkin". fired hardened tips are very deadly. i was shooting 50 yrds at a tennins ball on a string. there is a plywood panel behind the target. the field tips barely stuck. the fire hardened tips were punching holes through the wood panel. they work
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Kegan on September 09, 2007, 04:50:49 pm
quick thinkin". fired hardened tips are very deadly. i was shooting 50 yrds at a tennins ball on a string. there is a plywood panel behind the target. the field tips barely stuck. the fire hardened tips were punching holes through the wood panel. they work

I've had more blunts and other small game/practice points break off the shaft than I've had fire hardened tips split. And even when they do split a little glue and thread'll fix 'em right up :).
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Jesse on September 09, 2007, 09:57:28 pm
Thats awsome ha ha ha duct tape I love it. That would be the best to get a trophy buck with duct tape arrows on a home made bow. Some guys spend thousands getting all set up. You spent like five bucks. too funny Im gonna try it.
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Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: John K on September 12, 2007, 04:18:07 pm
Kegan, Red Green would be proud.  ;D
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Pat B on September 12, 2007, 04:22:40 pm
"If the women don't find you handsome at least let them find you handy"  ;D    Pat
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Kegan on September 12, 2007, 05:43:34 pm
I guess now all I have to do is turn an old car into a bow building machine and I'd be set ;).
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: david w. on September 12, 2007, 07:00:41 pm
those are awesome. teh duct tape is so cool. i might try that
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Pat B on September 13, 2007, 12:33:16 am
Using materials that are readily available is as primitive as it gets! ;)     Pat
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Pappy on September 13, 2007, 09:37:36 am
Neat arrows,I'll say one thing for you ,you are about the most resourceful guy I have ever seen
use what you have on hand. :) :) How do they fly with no tips.I have lost tips before and they go everywhere but where you want them to. ???
   Pappy
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: snellp on September 13, 2007, 06:09:23 pm
I might try the fluorescent colored duct tape (orange or pink).  It would make finding my arrows a lot easier. 
Then again, more target practice might help too! :P
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Kegan on September 13, 2007, 07:22:36 pm
Neat arrows,I'll say one thing for you ,you are about the most resourceful guy I have ever seen
use what you have on hand. :) :) How do they fly with no tips.I have lost tips before and they go everywhere but where you want them to. ???
   Pappy

Thanks ;D. As far as tips, I just left them a few inches longer than my draw. Seemed to help. Seems that heavier the shaft, the shorter they need to be when left long? If that makes sense :D. Light shafts= really longer, heavy shafts= just a little bit longer. That sums it up :). Helps with the weight aat the bow or somehting (was in some of the back issues of PA, I believe Ken Wee talked about it?)
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: david w. on September 18, 2007, 12:33:00 am
i made one and i was suprised how well they flew.  The duct tape flew good and i put a nut on the end
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: basil_brush on September 23, 2007, 01:45:05 pm
quick thinkin". fired hardened tips are very deadly. i was shooting 50 yrds at a tennins ball on a string. there is a plywood panel behind the target. the field tips barely stuck. the fire hardened tips were punching holes through the wood panel. they work

Wow, sounds good. I don't have any experience of fire hardening wood though. What's the technique? What temp and for how long?
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Kegan on September 23, 2007, 05:15:04 pm
Take tip, stick in fire till black ;D. Then grind on sandstone/sand paper until you removed the worst of the charred wood- that's it. Works great :).
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: david w. on September 23, 2007, 05:54:31 pm
i made 7 squirrel arras today. i tipped them with nutters and 38 caliber empties.  withe the 38s i took out the primmer and inserted a nail.

i used ducttape for 6 of them and on 1 i split the shaft and put in a feather they work good should go squirrel hunting soon.
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Minuteman on September 26, 2007, 04:45:45 pm
Those are goldenrod shafts, Kegan. What did you trade to me?  I can't recall.
 Anyway  if you put the big end in the front it gives you a pretty high forward of center weight which makes for an easily guided arrow. I bet you'd find that they fly pretty good fletchless at short range.
 SOMEBODY SEND THIS FELLER SOME FEATHERS! :o :o ;)
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Kegan on September 26, 2007, 06:26:16 pm
Those are goldenrod shafts, Kegan. What did you trade to me?  I can't recall.
 Anyway  if you put the big end in the front it gives you a pretty high forward of center weight which makes for an easily guided arrow. I bet you'd find that they fly pretty good fletchless at short range.
 SOMEBODY SEND THIS FELLER SOME FEATHERS! :o :o ;)

Stingers. And I don't think they're golden rod, I believ you called them orange something or other? Alot harder stuff. Most of the old golden rod arrows are stashed away for hand drills ;D. And I'm finding a few feathers. Our neighboring turkeys are kind enough to give me one or two every week ;).
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: D. Tiller on September 26, 2007, 08:34:32 pm
Hmmmm! How do you keep the duct tape from cutting your hand as you shoot them?
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Minuteman on September 27, 2007, 12:02:12 pm
Thats right, they are mock orange. ??? Got a bush here by the house and a huge batch of it at my parents place.
 How tough was it to straighten them?
 You need to find some nearby turkey hunters and get to know them . They usually will give you the wing feathers for the asking. Not that theres anything wrong with duct tape... if yer name is MacGuyver! ;)
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: Kegan on September 27, 2007, 06:30:48 pm
I really didn't bother much with straightenning. Most were "pretty straight", and the nock and point and nock ligned up, so I figrued to shoot them as is. They work well, even a little crooked. But I don't like the ducctape, Just somehting to put on arrows to keep the ends from flinging forward.

So far in two days I've come across four feathers- both days the two feathers (large, perfect wing) matched, enough for two arrows :). Eoither I'll try to make nice with the turkeys, or if they stay roosted where they are (nice and out in the open) for a month I'll just get some feathers and a nice turkey dinner >:D
Title: Re: Made some meat makers
Post by: stickbender on September 28, 2007, 01:26:34 am
     Ah yes, Duct tape, it's not just for baby sitting anymore......


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