Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: iowabow on August 03, 2012, 09:45:16 am
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I was just reading the stats on this site and was wondering how many primitive archers will be deer hunting this year from this site.
I will be so the count is 1 so far unless you will be counting my wifes technique of hunting as primitive (she makes them jump of bridges to their death with her car (yes JW her rack is bigger than mine))
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Ok this has gone too far! Now we're starting to predict JW's jokes?!? Where will this end!! :o ::)
John, you know I'm in. Can't wait to see how this season will unfold. So many great hunts last year and no bow kills. I am definitely looking forward to a little redemption. (Hope you're ok with me gettin the first deer, buddy.)
I would like to add that if you intend to claim "primitive hunting" then please post a pic of your archery gear. I'll try to get mine out later today. This is a good post! I've always been curious how many people across the country can say they still hunt primitive. Bet we're in a pretty small group.
Scott
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Lol ok on the JW! Well you have see my arrow and bow so you know Im good. So the count is 2 so far.
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Fingers still crossed that I will be able to this Fall...in the middle of a move and relocation (an hour south of my current residence) and hopefully I'll be able to secure permission on land around Berrien Springs, MI and if not, maybe, just maybe I'll drive back up to Holland and hunt my Grandma's property.
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(Hope you're ok with me gettin the first deer)
Scott
You shouldn't be throwing down the gauntlet instead you should be thorwing in a white towel. >:D One hunting point says your wrong! You in? :o
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White towel my brown stained panties!! Winner picks point of their choice from the other guys collection! >:D ;D
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Fingers still crossed that I will be able to this Fall...in the middle of a move and relocation (an hour south of my current residence) and hopefully I'll be able to secure permission on land around Berrien Springs, MI and if not, maybe, just maybe I'll drive back up to Holland and hunt my Grandma's property.
Lee, I've spent many falls driving up to the Manistee to bowhunt some fine Michigan deer. Love the Irons area and outside Baldwin. Got a week off in early October and might head up there to hunt and camp for a few of those days.
I plan on trying again this year for a stone kill, even through gun season.
Tracy
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White towel my brown stained panties!! Winner picks point of their choice from the other guys collection! >:D ;D
Collection of points I made or out of total modern collection? I just want to know how much of a bandit I am going to be.
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Total now is 3 and 1 maybe
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Fingers still crossed that I will be able to this Fall...in the middle of a move and relocation (an hour south of my current residence) and hopefully I'll be able to secure permission on land around Berrien Springs, MI and if not, maybe, just maybe I'll drive back up to Holland and hunt my Grandma's property.
Lee, I've spent many falls driving up to the Manistee to bowhunt some fine Michigan deer. Love the Irons area and outside Baldwin. Got a week off in early October and might head up there to hunt and camp for a few of those days.
I plan on trying again this year for a stone kill, even through gun season.
Tracy
That's cool Tracy, never hunted the Irons or Baldwin area. I used to do a fair amount of gun hunting near Custer (outside Ludington) but haven't made it up there in many years. I too am planning on primitive/stone hunt this year...sold off all my guns this part year and shelved the wheelie thing 3 years ago after I found this funny thing called Primitive >:D
Kinda bummed though as I was eating tonight my wife informed me that they are dozing and building a park on the 60 acres that backs up to my grandma's creek bottom woods...can't seem to catch a break as I'm sure all that activity will push the deer right out of there this Fall.
Time to figure out and formulate plan C now I guess...lol.
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That's how I'll be hunting!!
If size matters...I'm out!! :) My saying is if it's brown it's down!! ;D
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I plan to hunt whitetail this year with my primitive bows. Our season starts in 12 days.
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You southern boys are lucky that your season starts so early.
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I hunted opening day (August 15) many years when I lived in Bluffton. It was not only hot but humid as all get up with lots of skeeters, ticks and chiggers.
..and a few deer! ;)
John, I intend to hunt this year and if I do it will be with "primitive" gear like it has been for the last 6 or 8 years. I do use trade points and stone points as well as commercial points on my cane and sourwood shoot arrows. this year I may use some poplar arrows I made with self nocks and tied on feathers.
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Well the bugs dont sound fun. I will do a final count when we look like no more post are being made. So lets keep them coming
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season opens here 15 aug....will start with my recurve but plan on pulling out my John Strunk vine maple again once it cools a little. Do I need to use knapped heads to be considered primitive or is my vine maple with doug fir and grizzly or ribtek heads good enough?
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I'll be hunting with Primitive depending on where I'm at and how desperate I start getting. I have over forty glass bows and I like to hunt some of the old Classic's with the same year arrows and points. Like hunting with my black powder, too. And when I'm really after meat the 300 Wnmag comes out. I shotgun hunt with some friends around Christmas when they run dogs for deer, a Southern Tradition.
Archery season starts 60 miles south of me in Florida tomorrow morning. Nice and warm, 70% humidity and you better be wearing a Bug Tamer suit and have a couple of Thermosals. But then it will still be like that in October. our season doesn't end till mid January, the small game till March then Turkey season till the third weekend of April. And we can hunt hogs year round. So I have plenty of time to use the weapon of my choice.
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I will be hunting "half primitive". Wooden selfbow, carbon arrows.
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I am definitely in for mulies and elk. Season starts in about three or four weeks. I am buzy re habilitating Pat's Elkie bow from shooting completely over big headed elk @ ridiculously close range. Must be too flat of a cast.
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If I eat any venison this year it will have to be taken with primitive...didn't draw for any of the three deer tags I put in for gun season. From the looks of it I may not even be able to draw an archery tag where I can hunt.
Due to landowner pressure, the GF&P had 4-5 years where they put out unlimited doe tags. Now suddenly this year they have just 3,200 tags for 1.25 million acres of Black Hills. This is what happens when wildlife management is run by political pressure instead of good science.
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I'll be deer hunting with a primitive bow, bamboo arrow but tipped Zwickeys. I've done so for the past 2 seasons. No deer yet. It seems when I have a bow the deer are 60 to 200 yards out. But, let me take firearm out and the deer are under 15 yards. grr
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Yes the bugs down here are bad.....Thermacell is a must. Plus the heat but the humidity is the worst. I usually get out a few times then after Sep 15th I go a little more. Can shoot does then also if you have tags.
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I'm in. It will be my first year with primitive gear although I have bows made by others, I should have my own finished and ready to go by next month. If not I'll either use my Gilman Keasey Yew or Bobcat ( Bob Barnes ) bamboo back/belly longbow with bamboo arrows and trade points.
Anyone wanting to primitive hunt Nebraska is welcome to join me during the early part of the season. My sons both rifle hunt and the later part of the season is always reserved for them.
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Hope to be hunting blacktails in August and September with my new plum recurve and port orford cedar arrows with STOS broadheads.
Gabe
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Ill be hunting fwith sticks and stone once again this year :) :) :) Stringman heres a peek at my weapon of choice per your request. >:D
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Cool bow Will H.....hope to see it laying on a deer come season!! :)
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Thanks, Will. Thats a nice lookin setup!
I think I'm gonna hunt with my George S. special this year. Got this in the trade last year and didnt hunt with it very much. Shot it the other day and it was feeling right. Cane shafts and 135 grn points. They are flying true and hitting hard!
Love seeing and hearing from everyone!
Scott
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Osage, cane an stone, an hoping to stone another whitetail. Bob
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Oh man those bows look great. I am taking a plum branch out for blacktail on the 22nd (vancouver Island BC). This will be the second year with a primative bow, (though I am shooting Zwickies on hickory). Looking at the stone heads you guys are using is making me think I better get to knapping - they have made the transition from tools to art for sure.
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Have to stop and pick you up along the way Lee! ;)
Tracy
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Scott, that's great! You just made my day. ;D Those points look deadly too.
I plan to hunt with my sinew backed osage shorty, cane arrows from tattoo Dave and my flint points. Our season starts Oct 1 so I may get after after hogs before deer.
George
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Primitive bows with carbon arrows. Ya'll making me feel guilty 'bout the arra's.
Like Eddie said if I get meat hungry I'll pull out the old Winchester 1957 .30-30.
Lane
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Have to stop and pick you up along the way Lee! ;)
Tracy
LOL, let me know bud!
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Marking time till October 15! I will be after whitetails and hogs down in the swamp with one of these bows that I have made this year.... not sure which one yet! Cane arrows, stone points, turkey feathers from birds killed in the same swamp.... I can't wait!!!! Oh, and as far as the ticks, redbugs, chiggers, etc... get yourself in a tub of water with a cup of bleach as soon as you come out of the woods - they can't stand it. You'll see them floating dead in the water (which is lots better than attached to your nether regions) ;)
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Attached to my WHAT? :-* :o :laugh:
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I will be out with my hickory trade bow fram alex b.
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Have two cow elk tags, one whitetail deer tag, one black bear license, and hope to have a season on mt. lions this winter. Elk season starts Aug. 15th this year, but warm weather may make that date improbable. Can't post pictures, but will hunt with my James Parker bow and Cora's special canes. Stones are now illegal in Wyo. although my Game Warden friend tells me he is working on getting that law changed. Had a really wide in velvet buck pass thru the yard the other day which made me anxious to start hunting! Hawk Huston, Josiah, and Stacey all drew bull elk tags for this area so the elk are in harm's way this fall! A/Ho Joe
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Scott, that's great! You just made my day. ;D Those points look deadly too.
I plan to hunt with my sinew backed osage shorty, cane arrows from tattoo Dave and my flint points. Our season starts Oct 1 so I may get after after hogs before deer.
George
no problem George! It was too nice of a bow to be collecting dust. And I wouldn't want you to think I was ungrateful. ::)
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Nah, I wouldn't think that. But, I know you make beautiful bows so it is a special treat to think you might shoot one of mine.
George
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yup gonna be shootin osage and flingin some cane sticks at some wapiti. only 26 more days
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That's my plan. Probably use trade points instead of stone. :)
Pappy
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Its all I use for all hunting, no firearms are used in the HARMING of critters with me after them.
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I live to bow hunt deer and gobblers this will be the 22 nd season 05 bow only from the ground. I'll be hunting form OCT 1 ST TO JAN 1 ST as long as the ink holds out in my printer to keep printing those tags or I run out of arrows. That has happened. But only untill I make a few more. But this year I got pletty of arrows and trade and knaped points.
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Kill 'em all Roy! We only get one go round buddy.
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yup you know i will be. been dedicated to the stone since 2010. i hope to bring home another 2 or 3 this fall
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Nah, I wouldn't think that. But, I know you make beautiful bows so it is a special treat to think you might shoot one of mine.
George
Hey Jorge are those skins on Scott's bow from me? I think I remember them.. Yellow bellies if they are ;)
Cipriano
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Stone tipped dogwood for me. I don't know which bow yet, but it will either be Osage,ironwood or walnut that much I know. Josh
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Though the years every now and then stone calls me. But I love metal working my whole life and love makeing knives and trade points,forgeing as much as knapping.
I always keep a stone head or 2 on a dog wood arrow. But I have to say stone points have aways had something mystical about them to me. Even the ones I make. I hunt stone heads every spring how could anyone find one and not feel that way about them.
I'm sure the user had to think a little differently. They had to live by them. But when ever they found a old palo tip they had to think the same as we do about them now. THAT IS BEFORE HE RRSHARPEN IT AND PUT IT ON HIS OWN ARROW.
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I planned on some Nebraska mule deer this fall but my wife's fuel pump took that money. So I'll be staying close to home and hunting for deer/turkey with my self made osage bow, cedar arrows and some old bear razorheads. Can't wait for the looks on public land when seen with me tackle. It get's them every time. Oh, and I'll be on the ground as well.
-Jeremy
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season starts Oct 6th here in Va and more than likely I'll be sittin' up a tree with my maple flatbow
across my lap in hopes that a deer or turkey will wander by..
that is, unless I get off my lazy butt and finish up a sinew backed yew flatbow that I've been working on
for years. but that bow still needs skins glued on it and the tiller touched up a bit.
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Hey Jorge are those skins on Scott's bow from me? I think I remember them.. Yellow bellies if they are ;)
Cipriano
Yes Cip, but it was just one skin. It was a beauty.
George
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Still going with selfbow just have to decide which one, thinking it will be this black locust since I'm shooting it best right now. Be using trade points on shoot and bamboo shafts. Would hunt with stone but have no knapping skills but would really love to do it that way,
that would be the ultimate for me. Heres what I'll be using come October. Forkhorn deer are my specialty.
Greg
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I'll be sittin and waitin with a hedge or hickory bow,stone and grizzly points on bamboo and douglas fir shafts for turkey or deer.Need to eat,need feathers,need sinew and need a hide or two or three..Treestand,blind or pit blind.Ready for the rush.Starts October 1st.In fact a bobcat,coyote or a coon won't be safe either.That's if I aim small to hit small.LOL.
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Going to try and kill a deer and a hog or two with my selfbow(Ryan Gill osage bow), cane arrows and trade points.
I've hung up my glass bow for the year.
I'm more exceited than I've ever been going into a deer season. It opens here Sept 1!(WMA) and Sept 15 in most of Florida.
Good luck!
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I am heading over this week to hunt elk (Bear and cougar tags in hand too ;)). This will be the first year I hunt primitive. I will be using a 57# osage longbow I made this summer, and some fir shafts tipped with either Zwickey's or obsidian points (by stringman) if I can get them mounted in time. I am more excited than ever now that I am hunting with a bow of my own making. Got to go get a few more shots in, and a few more arrows made.
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9 more days, well i was gonna shoot the osage with cane arrows and obsidian points then changed to my hill bow with bamboo arrows and grizzly points then i changed to a pse longbow with bamboo arrows with tusker bhs and then i changed to a hickory d-bow and some cane arrows with grizzly bhs and now i'm back to the osage. waaaay to many decisions........
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Lol! That is exactly how my thoughts go sometimes! ;D ;D ;)
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Brain tanned a hide for a fellow that shot this deer with one of those shark tooth broadheads.It had a hole in the hide 5 inches long.He told me a deer was totally disembowled from an angled shot along the paunch by his friend.There were intestines hanging on the top wire of a barbed wire fence the deer jumped over.Talk about damage heh....The buck scored over 170.Shot him at 8 yards right underneath him.Deer of a lifetime in my book.Both these guys used glass longbows but these self bows will do er too.
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I will give my new osage bow a try with my bamboo hunting arrows. I will however also hunt with my recurve bow.
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I will be hunting this year with my hickory longbow and willow arrows tipped with metal trade points. I would love to hunt deer with stone points this season but does anyone know if you can hunt with 7/8 inch or wider stone arrowheads in Texas?
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Here's the Texas broadhead rule:
When used to hunt turkey and all game animals other than squirrels, a projectile must be equipped with a broadhead hunting point that is at least 7/8-inch in width (upon impact) and has a minimum of two cutting edges. A mechanical broadhead must begin to open upon impact and, when open, must be a minimum of 7/8-inch in width.
I read that to mean the stone points are legal as long as they are 7/8" wide.
George
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Thats great news. Now I just have to get some stone points. I think that raw texas chert points would be my choice on deer and hogs. Does anyone have a good source of them? Im not very good at flint knapping and ive been trying for over three years lol. I was going to order some stone points from 3 rivers archery but I was shocked at the price ($25 each :o)
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If you're anywhere near Dallas, PM me and we'll knock some out in my shop.
George
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Im in San Angelo, not really that long of a drive. I might have to go by there sometime when im in Dallas.
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Better yet, when I go out to my deer lease in Cross Plains I'll bring some rock and tools. That'd be a lot closer for you. But, if you come to Dallas for sure let me know.
George
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Sounds good.
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I'll definitely be bow hunting, but I don't know where it'll rate on everyone's "primitive" scale. I was hoping to hunt /w my first self-bow, but attempt #1 is stalled now due to a transverse crack so I likely won't be going out with it. Try #2 is well on its way, but I can't say if I'll have it done in time to be comfortable using it assuming it works out ok. Short story long - I'll probably be hunting /w my Martin recurve and aluminum arrows. :embarassed:
But there will be deer meat in my freezer....
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I couldn't honestly say that I'll be hunting true primitive style. My hunting bow is a maple backed cherry board bow, my broadheads are steel, and my arrows are also made from boards. But it is all handmade archery tackle, the product of my own time and effort.
I guess you could say that I am hunting traditional, but not primitive.
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Yep, deer hunting with my new trade bow, river cane arrows tipped in stone and trade points. 27 more days.
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3 more days ;D I already can't sleep ::)
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All I hunt with is total primitive now. Bow,arrows and points all made by myself. So far this year I am two for two on squirrels. Two shots, two kills. No shots on the elk or deer as of yet.
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Its dove season here and I have been trying my best to get one with a primitive bow. I have already lost over a dozen arrows ;D I will get one sooner or later.
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Here it is...Missouri deer opens Saturday...50lb. osage / cane shafts / 150 grain bone points. goose feathers.
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Ok so does a bamboo backed bow count. I am going out in the morning I will take my osage recurve just in case. It will be my 3rd morning out. wish me luck. I have seen deer every hunt so far but all at 100+ yards I am going to close in on them tomorrow with obsidian point cane shaft wild turkey feather self knocked arrows and sinew backed osage recurve. I will be sure to post the outcome.
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I have really enjoyed the post so far! true test to the life of primitive hunting. I have been working like a dog to complete a bow string that will be part of of a two part article in Primitive Archer Magazine maybe next year. I am hoping to take a deer with it if everything works out. So I will be 100% (dogwood arrows, flint point, primitive paint, turkey feathered, milkweed string and osage slefbow)made from the outdoors primitive this time around. wish me luck!!!!
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Thats pretty close to primitive, but what did you use to build your bow?!? :laugh: ;)
I think alot of us on here have already pointed out we are as primitive as we are right now. I have loved this journey and look forward to constantly improving my skills, but everyday I find myself using something modern to speed up or simplify the process. For some of us still using certain modern "crutches" thats ok! I just love to see where everyone's at. Very few of us want to challenge ourselves in, truly, "the old way." but many of us possess the skills were it needful to survive.
In short, don't get down on yourself if you ain't there yet. And don't let anyone criticize what you're using or how you're huntin.
Live where you're at and tomorrow move on!
Scott
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I have really enjoyed the post so far! true test to the life of primitive hunting. I have been working like a dog to complete a bow string that will be part of of a two part article in Primitive Archer Magazine maybe next year. I am hoping to take a deer with it if everything works out. So I will be 100% (dogwood arrows, flint point, primitive paint, turkey feathered, milkweed string and osage slefbow)made from the outdoors primitive this time around. wish me luck!!!!
Cant wait to see the artical If it is anything like your dog wood arrow build along It will be great. I was unable to make it out this morn I woke up started getting my camo's on strung my bow took a few practice shots with my flood light on and my wife calls me and say you better come back to the house Riley (my son) is sick he just woke up and is burning up. I went back up took his temp and it was 102.6. I gave him some tylenol to break his temp and held him till he feel back asleep. Now it was 8:15 in the morn That magic sunrise was gone but I said well I will give it another go. got all my camo back on and my step dad calls with bad news, A friend of ours son went loopy and tried to strangle his mom she faught him off bashed him in the head with a seramic plate and knocked him out cold. He is in the hospital with a coma and she is in the hospital with a broke ankle. Be ware of the crap they sell at gas stations that imitate marijuana, he was on it at the time. Needless to say after that I decieded today was just not my day to be in the woods. Waiting to hear more and my prayers are with them that they get through this. so now my concentration is on my son waiting for him to wake up so I can give him the doctor dad checkup and see if we need to take him to the doc. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day. Hope everone elses season is starting of better than mine.
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Thats pretty close to primitive, but what did you use to build your bow?!? :laugh: ;)
I think a lot of us on here have already pointed out we are as primitive as we are right now. I have loved this journey and look forward to constantly improving my skills, but everyday I find myself using something modern to speed up or simplify the process. For some of us still using certain modern "crutches" that's OK! I just love to see where everyone's at. Very few of us want to challenge ourselves in, truly, "the old way." but many of us possess the skills were it needful to survive.
In short, don't get down on yourself if you ain't there yet. And don't let anyone criticize what you're using or how you're huntin.
WOW Scott you called me out on my tools for making my selfbow. I guess I will have to pull out that peck and grind axe I made last year and knock one out this winter.
Live where you're at and tomorrow move on!
Scott
WOW Scott you called me out on my tools for making my selfbow :o. I guess I will have to pull out that peck and grind axe I made last year and knock one out this winter. ;D But you are correct I was referring to the materials not the all encompassing process or environment that is required for the production. Annette has already said that she is not sleeping in a teepee during hunting season to make it legitimate. By the way she has new hunting equipment this year and should be able to take a larger deer. She has a new JEEP!
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Haha! If she follows our journey of "simplifying to make it more challenging," she will soon be using a bicycle!! ;D
Scott
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Haha! If she follows our journey of "simplifying to make it more challenging," she will soon be using a bicycle!! ;D
Scott
haha I vote horse drawn wagon or just horse
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ive been huntin doves with my slingshot but for deer yeah ill be after them a bit with the elm selfbow and cant guarantee the arrows will be primitive. a mix of wood, handmade or non, or whatever aluminum but i ususally frolick in the woods with primitve clothes, moccasins most times and wool clothing
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BY next week Oct 13 opening day, myself and the boys are headed out for deer here in AZ. I plan to set my new canvas "Baker's tent" and settle in by Friday.
I'll be bring'n my trusty Ash flatbow 54#@27" and a back-up BL w/ sinewbacked along with 2dz. arrows. There's plenty of bunnies for the pot up thar in them hills. My brother is hunting with an ole' favorite a .300 Savage lever action. We'll get something "by gollie".
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Haha! If she follows our journey of "simplifying to make it more challenging," she will soon be using a bicycle!! ;D
Scott
haha I vote horse drawn wagon or just horse
I cant wait till she gets down to just shoe leather. ::)
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Mrs iowabow wants to know if its flats or heel? She sees this conversation as an opportunity for retail therapy for this years "in season" ammo. Thanks for giving her ideas.
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Heels with flint tipped toes. ;)
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Third season with a Osage self bow, missed two turkeys so far. First year hunting with boo arrows and stone heads. Missed a doe, hit a branch I didn't see and shot under her. Plenty of time for another crack at one.lol