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Title: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 16, 2007, 05:40:52 pm
I have recently read about nutters,they are supposed to be perfect for bushy tails.Could i have some pics??? could it be possible to make an arrow from a dowell rod?
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 16, 2007, 06:02:40 pm
The original nutters were made from ramin dowels, just fletch, taper the point, and screw a nut on it. It's very possible to make good arrows from dowels, just check the grain carefully. Ramin is getting harder to find, but the poplar dowels from Lowe's make good arrows if you pick through them. I'm sure other kinds would work, also. After all, commercial cedar shafts are dowels.
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 16, 2007, 09:28:55 pm
thank you and what size neut would be best?if they(dowel rods) are crooked a bit is there any way to straighten them? ???
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 16, 2007, 10:53:37 pm
BTW what size would i need if i shoot 145 Field points,do they work on rabbits,i need pics bad espesially on the tapering part.
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: mullet on September 16, 2007, 11:16:23 pm
  Rabbits don't care what it is when they get WOPPED.
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: Pat B on September 17, 2007, 12:18:09 am
Here are 2 nutters. One is on a 11/32 cedar shaft the other is on a hardwood shoot shaft. I believe the nuts are 1/4" or so and I like a drop of super glue on the threads after installing the nut.       Pat

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Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: stiknstring on September 17, 2007, 12:18:01 pm
On my 11/32 shafts I use a 3/8 nut.  Just tight enough to screw itself into the wood a bit.  They dont weigh as much as a field point but I compensate by leaving the shaft a little long.  I have got to tell you that I dont know how they do on squirrels since I have not hunted them in Montana but man do they do the job on cottontails.  Three for four last year and all were very quick kills.  Nutter hit like a truck. 
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: Hillbilly on September 17, 2007, 01:00:26 pm
You can straighten fairly major crooks with heat or straighten out slight bends by using a smooth metal rod or hook to burnish and compress the outside of the bend.
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: scattershot on September 17, 2007, 01:19:06 pm
I use two 3/8" nuts, and they weigh 160 grains, just like my field points. Check American Woodcrafters website. They have birch dowels for $22.00/100 or so. At that price, you can afford a few culls! Those birch dowels make a nice heavy arrow, and with the two nuts they hit like a hammer.
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 18, 2007, 05:25:51 pm
thanks for  the pic and info i'll try to make some ;)
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: Minuteman on September 20, 2007, 10:23:20 am
Heres some pics of my version of a nutter. Kinda works like a judo without the wallet pain.
 
 

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Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: Minuteman on September 20, 2007, 10:34:17 am
They aren't exactly primitive but neither are regular nutters. :'( The toothed washer grabs the grass and keeps the arrow from snaking underneath and getting buried. It'll stand the arrow up purty good in taller grass and makes an awful tearing sound when it hits stuff. :o
I have yet to shoot a critter with one so I don't know how well it' would kill stuff but it seems like it would sure impart the wompin' on something. ;) Another cool thing is that with the larger nut , two toothed washers and the 1 1/4" drywall screw it brings the weight up closer to a field point. Haven't weighed em yet but they fly just ike my field points.
 The nut is just a regular 5/16"( I think) nylon bushing nut, taper the tip of the arrow a little til it screws on tight. Then pilot a hole for the drywall screw, slip the washers onto the screw and insert it into the end of the arrow.The little washer keeps the larger one centered on the screw.
  Theres reall very little tapering that needs to be done. Just enough to get the threads started .
 I want to try them out with larger toothed washers but thats the largest kind I had on hand.
 Hope you enjoy 'em.
 Chris
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 20, 2007, 10:21:51 pm
whoa!!! those look like they could do a little damage on a varmit,'specially the toothed washers!ouch :o,i might try some 8),and minuteman did you even taper the points???
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: Minuteman on September 21, 2007, 01:28:43 pm
The nuts wouldn't fit without a little tapering. Just a shave off the first 1/4" of the shaft is all you need to get it started. If it stops turning before the tip gets to the end of the nut then back it off and shave a little more off. i use a pocket knife, you could abrade it with sandpaper or a rock for that matter.
 I shot the one in the picture through a piece of metal roofing yesterday afternoon and it was no worse for the wear! :o
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 21, 2007, 07:56:49 pm
 8),cool a peice of metal???i think me and my friends(Skyler and Don Wilson) are gonna bye some dowwel rods and nut,possibly some toothed washers   ;)
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: Robinwho on September 26, 2007, 11:34:42 pm
Another thing we used 40 years ago when I was a kid, was to wrap the points with soft wire, copper or galvanized wire works well, but before wrapping it we would drill a whole, take a galvanized nail , cut the head of and insert it in the arrow then wrap the tip and nail with the wire.
I haven't done that in years , maybe I'll make one to show all.
The wire adds weight and balances the arrow.
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 27, 2007, 09:12:15 am
cool what would you call that?
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: david w. on September 27, 2007, 09:48:34 am
my small game points

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Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 29, 2007, 12:10:13 am
nice!!! i need those bad
Title: Re: nutters?
Post by: gene roberts on September 29, 2007, 12:12:11 am
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SEE I TOLD YOU SO(THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE NORTHEASTERN ALABAMA BUSHY TAIL IN ITS NATURAL HABITAT). :o