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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: BOWMAN53 on November 14, 2012, 01:45:24 pm

Title: recurve question
Post by: BOWMAN53 on November 14, 2012, 01:45:24 pm
Can you recurve the limbs on any bow or does it need to be a certain design. Does a board bow hold reflex well? Is red oak good enough? (Its al I can get right now)
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: blackhawk on November 14, 2012, 02:12:09 pm
If I'm going to put on some form of recurve or reflexed static tip on a board bow,I find it much easier to just glue on some siyahs,than trying to steam of boil a board and bend them in.

How much bowmaking experience do you have? If your still on the learning curve then just keep it simple and learn how to properly tiller a straight bow first before trying anything more advanced. Tillering and proper design are the two most important elements in bowmaking and takes a lot of time and practice to learn.
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: BOWMAN53 on November 14, 2012, 02:44:55 pm
What are siyahs? Can you post a pic please?  And I can now get a proper tiller and hit my target weight, so I was wanting to take the next step.
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: autologus on November 14, 2012, 03:17:15 pm
Red Oak steam bends just fine, in fact it does better with steam than dry heat.  All of the ones I have tried with dry heat have cracked on the belly but the steam bent one work great.

Grady
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: bubby on November 14, 2012, 03:47:05 pm
i agree with blackhawk, although i dont have a problem steam bending boards, Bub
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: Bearded Mountain Man on November 14, 2012, 04:16:02 pm
F.Y.I   Siyahs are what most horsebows have instead of recurved tips. They look like this...
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: BOWMAN53 on November 14, 2012, 04:20:21 pm
Siyahs are something I know nothing about and I've done research on steam bending so Ill just do that. is there a certain design I need if I'm gonna recurve the tips?  Mollegabet? Flatbow? Short, long? Or even a pyramid? (I'm kinda interested in trying a pyramid recurve, idk why). And is the tillering process different?
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: BOWMAN53 on November 14, 2012, 04:24:15 pm
And they are just glued on? And can you put those on a "straight" bow?
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: carpentertimw on November 16, 2012, 07:51:34 pm
can you just glue siyahs to it or do you have to do fancy joints or anything like that?
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: osage outlaw on November 16, 2012, 11:29:46 pm
I seem to remember Josh had a nice red oak board recurve. 
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: Matt Heppe on November 18, 2012, 07:44:53 pm
Here's a straight bow with glued on siyah's I'm working on right now. Some people reinforce the glued area with a sinew wrap.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EfjuCl6nqM0/UKlpHIFqM7I/AAAAAAAABEg/2KxyK4qmskY/s427/54C71E45-4D80-4D82-8379-EB13CA0B756A.JPG)

You don't necessarily need a bridge (the little square blocks you see supporting the string). It depends on how you design the siyahs.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vuRl9_VCpSE/UKlpHIIfz2I/AAAAAAAABEg/shUafGFomoI/s427/926C74BA-7863-443F-963D-159EBAEC5CB3.JPG)
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: BOWMAN53 on November 18, 2012, 08:09:10 pm
That's really cool matt. I like that, ill have to try an make one.
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: steve b. on November 18, 2012, 09:26:00 pm
I agree, that is really cool.
Title: Re: recurve question
Post by: H Rhodes on November 18, 2012, 09:32:21 pm
I think that regardless of the type of recurve you are shooting for, there is a point where the bows length is an issue.  Recurves on a bow much over 64 or 65 inches long just doesn't seem to do anything much for improving performance, in my opinion. 

I agree Matt, that is an awesome recurve. :)