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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on December 03, 2012, 10:24:48 pm
We should start one as a sticky. 
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Post by: tattoo dave on December 03, 2012, 10:37:40 pm
I'll second that! Good idea Prarie.

Tattoo Dave
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Post by: JackCrafty on December 04, 2012, 01:25:31 am
This sounds great!   ;D
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Post by: Frawg on December 04, 2012, 03:14:05 pm
would love to see that as a sticky
Matt
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Post by: killir duck on December 04, 2012, 04:21:33 pm
sounds like a good idea to me
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Post by: mullet on December 04, 2012, 04:22:41 pm
It would be easier to add it as a post and keep it going. There are a lot of stickeys now that aren't seeing any action. But,,,It can be done easy enough.
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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on December 04, 2012, 09:29:52 pm
What ever...I'm not seeing bone points.
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Post by: JackCrafty on December 08, 2012, 11:40:57 pm
Here's a bone arrowhead video I just uploaded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvs9F80N9x0

 ;D

Edit:  I'm making a bunch of bone points today and I will post pictures when done.

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/05-13-09/079.jpg)
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Post by: ionicmuffin on December 09, 2012, 02:29:30 pm
WOW! nice! could these be used for fishing?
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Post by: sadiejane on December 09, 2012, 03:10:09 pm
(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/arrowheads-homemade/DSCN8338-1.jpg)
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Post by: sadiejane on December 09, 2012, 03:10:51 pm
(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/arrowheads-homemade/DSCN0480.jpg)
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Post by: sadiejane on December 09, 2012, 03:12:16 pm
really like bone points.
havent made any in awhile as my dremel broke.
tho i have made em entirely by hand the dremel spoiled me...
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Post by: Scowler on December 09, 2012, 03:26:04 pm
Cool looking points.  Too bad about your Dremel, Sadie. :'( Maybe Santa will bring you a new one.
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Post by: JackCrafty on December 09, 2012, 04:14:31 pm
The barbs on a bone arrowhead are delicate and not very good for fishing, in my experience.  Especially with big fish (over 10lbs). A better way to do it is to tie on a pointed bone sliver to the side of the shaft, pointing backward.  I'll post a picture to show what I mean.
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Post by: JW_Halverson on December 09, 2012, 08:33:47 pm
The barbs on a bone arrowhead are delicate and not very good for fishing, in my experience.  Especially with big fish (over 10lbs). A better way to do it is to tie on a pointed bone sliver to the side of the shaft, pointing backward.  I'll post a picture to show what I mean.

Does this kind of head "toggle" or come off the shaft once it has passed thru the fish?  BTW, Gorgeous reproduction that you posted, Mr Crackjafty, gorgeous!
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Post by: JackCrafty on December 09, 2012, 08:52:15 pm
Nope, the barb does not toggle.  The head can be designed to come off the shaft, yes, just like a harpoon head.
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Post by: JW_Halverson on December 09, 2012, 08:55:10 pm
Thanks!  Can't wait to see the pics.
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Post by: JackCrafty on December 09, 2012, 11:13:28 pm
Here are the pictures of the bone arrowheads I made this evening.  The glue and some wrappings are not shown because I needed to switch out the arrowheads.  Enjoy.  ;D

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0265-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0266-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0268-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0273-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0274-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0275-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0278-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0279-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0280-1.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0281-1.jpg)
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Post by: Pappy on December 10, 2012, 05:26:35 am
Man them look great,mighty fine work. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on December 10, 2012, 05:57:46 pm
Ohhhh.. Ahhhhh that's the stuff.  Oh baby...
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Post by: Frawg on December 10, 2012, 06:50:35 pm
Awesome points. great posts keep them coming.
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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on December 10, 2012, 09:16:47 pm
(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/arrowheads-homemade/DSCN8338-1.jpg)

Nice.... Commentary?
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Post by: Pappy on December 11, 2012, 08:34:23 am
O man I like the also.Beautiful. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: lostarrow on December 13, 2012, 10:05:04 am
(http://)First attempt. I was curious to see how feasable they were. Slices through paper like a rasorblade . Took about 10 mins to make with the bandsaw and beltsander. They look great on a dogwood shaft and compliment the more" primitive" style bows quite nicely.The others posted give me inspiration to pursue this endeavor further.It also makes me wonder just how much further the timeline of archery stretches beyond the 10,000 years that is currently supported by archeological evidence, as bone points,animal/vegetable based strings, feathers, and wood bows don't typically hold up too well in the climates of the areas where they would be used. (other than arctic)
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Post by: Catahoula on December 13, 2012, 10:28:03 am
Hi,
Sure is fine work here...note to Sadie...friend of mine sent his Dremel back  to the company...told them he loved it and all there tools, etc...and they sent him a rebuilt...no charge at all...(after talking about it they can't really lose as they sell all those sanding disks and such...bet that is where the profit it...anyway...consider sending it back with a nice note and see what happens..

Catahoula
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Post by: paulc on December 13, 2012, 02:22:48 pm
Here are a set of bone points I made from the thigh bones from a doe I got last year with the rifle.  The longer ones with pencil marks on them I am going to make shorter as they can almost flex in my fingers.

Paul
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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on December 13, 2012, 06:03:34 pm
What if you dipped them in super glue?
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Post by: paulc on December 13, 2012, 08:19:16 pm
I guess I could do that but I have plenty of length so shortening them a bit should not be a problem.  I am trying to decide how to handle the concavity on the inside of the bone...might make for hafting to a shaft troublesome.  But I guess I can just try one and see.

I have a memory that here in GA broadheads have to be at least 3/4" wide...?  Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks,  Paul
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Post by: lostarrow on December 13, 2012, 08:23:56 pm
Boiling them will take the limberness out of them . The oils and whatnot (too sientific?) leach out and make for a stiffer /harder product. My wife thinks(knows) I'm crazy but I use the bones from the roasts for arrow strike plates  and they are nice and hard . The head from the pic above ,I believe is rib roast.LOL. I wouldn't overdo it though as it may become too brittle. Medium well is just about right. ;).
 Paulc. try using the concave bit to your advantage for hafting.  Like the stone points you have to play with the notch and fit each individually.
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Post by: ionicmuffin on December 13, 2012, 11:30:28 pm
Hey, so i was thinking about making some bone heads, but i noticed that most of the time the bone heads will be around 50 grains. so to increase weight i was thinking, could i drill a hole in the center and then cut a same diameter steel rod section so i can fill in the hole with it. I was thinking this would allow me to get upwards or 150-200 grains or more, and at the same time i would be adding some style. Is there any structural disadvantage to what im talking about? The metal would be glued in.
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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on December 14, 2012, 04:15:47 am
I noticed the same thing about bone heads.  My plan was to use african blackwood to make footed shafts and weigh the pieces before assembly.  I'd drill a small hold in the shaft and fill it with lead shot to get up to total desired grain weight.
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Post by: Scowler on December 14, 2012, 06:14:34 am
If you want heavier bone points just make them bigger.  My bone points average 70-100 grains in weight, depending upon the lengh and width I make them.  Remember that any hafting material will also add weight to the front of your arrow shaft.
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Post by: JackCrafty on December 14, 2012, 04:32:55 pm
Just make steel heads and paint them white to look like bone.  ;D  I won't tell.   O:)
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Post by: lostarrow on December 14, 2012, 07:49:55 pm
If you are using shoot shafts ,with the fat end forward, there will already be a fair bit of weight forward of center. By the time you add pitch (or whatever glue you want and your lashing material you should be able to bring the ballance point to a few inches F.O.C.  . Might save a lot of farting around with steel and lead etc. What would be the point of making a cool bone point  only to sully it with things like steel? If you had steel ,wouldn't you just use that for a point? Just sayin' ;D
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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on December 15, 2012, 11:09:20 am
Jack Crafty~ did you see his latest one?  Dictator?  It was BETTER than Borat.
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Post by: ionicmuffin on December 15, 2012, 11:26:00 am
I dont have sheets of steel laying around. i have available to me in the stores steel rods which i could cut up. This is kind of what i had in mind! its shinny and looks good.
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Post by: JackCrafty on December 15, 2012, 06:05:33 pm
Nope, haven't seen Dictator.  I need to see that one.

Interesting idea on the drilled holes filled with sliced steel rods.  The structure looks a little fragile around the lowest hole but other than that it I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Post by: madcrow on December 15, 2012, 09:17:44 pm
Is that going to be a flat point with beveled edges?  Or will it have a center ridge?  If you epoxy the steel in and then try to bevel it for a center ridge on a belt sander, the epoxy will get hot and turn loose.  How about boring a hole, then counter sinking each side of teh hole just a bit to leave a ridge or centerline in teh middle.  Cover one side of the point with something solid and melt leade into the hole.  File it flat with the point or bevel it.  The ridge in the countersink will hold the lead in place.
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Post by: ionicmuffin on December 15, 2012, 10:35:10 pm
i was just thinking that i would make it flat with beveled edges, i wasnt going to have the first hole close to the notches. i would spread it out.                 

Some time next week i should be able to get some pics up of my progress, im going to try it out and share my results!
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Post by: ionicmuffin on January 10, 2013, 07:35:59 pm
i just finished my first set of bone arrowheads, these are the best i was able to do with my stupid belt sander lol
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Post by: Adam on January 10, 2013, 08:12:29 pm
Those look great to me!
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Post by: JackCrafty on January 10, 2013, 08:38:22 pm
Cool!
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Post by: lostarrow on January 10, 2013, 09:19:40 pm
Looks good to me! Haft 'em up !
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Post by: ionicmuffin on January 10, 2013, 09:25:04 pm
thats the thing. they arnt for me! they are for my xmas trade recipient.
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Post by: lostarrow on January 14, 2013, 02:03:06 pm
They'll make someone very happy!I still can't get over how sharp they get.
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Post by: ionicmuffin on January 14, 2013, 02:11:35 pm
yep, they will get there tomorrow! hopefully they like it!
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Post by: raghorns on January 14, 2013, 06:52:23 pm
Hunted with these this week...almost a shot...nice doe @15 yards...wrong side of the tree.
Lyle
(http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h386/Lyle_Shaulis/160AD56C-E12A-46BE-A9D8-79C44F302552-2739-0000076DC8487D9D.jpg)
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Post by: ionicmuffin on January 14, 2013, 06:54:13 pm
man those are sweet looking points! bet they would have kill it :D
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Post by: tgtmatt on January 15, 2013, 06:13:58 pm
I just made my first ever bone arrow tip. Stole my dogs bone(: She didn't seem so happy as she watched me sand it into a nice little arrow head. She even tried to chew on it when I showed it to her. Should I feel bad? I'm a thief. Well anyways, here it is.
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Post by: ionicmuffin on January 15, 2013, 10:35:36 pm
its not sharp yet. are you going to sharpen it???
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Post by: tgtmatt on January 16, 2013, 06:16:13 am
I didn't figure out how to do that yet, any tips?
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Post by: ionicmuffin on January 16, 2013, 08:44:56 am
well you can use a sander or a file, but basically you hold the edge at an angle to the file or sander, then angle should be the angle you want your bone blades edge to be.
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Post by: tgtmatt on January 16, 2013, 04:25:27 pm
How sharp is it going to turn out? Sharp enough to cut yourself if you rub it?
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Post by: lostarrow on January 16, 2013, 08:32:00 pm
You know when you sharpen a knife and you hold up a piece of paper and just kind of lightly push it through the paper as it makes that sort of swiswing sound without tearing the paper but instead cleanly aprting it like a paddle cutting through water? ..................That sharp!...........................I guess I could have just said be careful!. ;)
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Post by: tgtmatt on January 16, 2013, 08:55:27 pm
Well I guess I better go sharpen mine up!
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Post by: ionicmuffin on January 16, 2013, 11:49:26 pm
Mine could have cut me, its not a toy for sure  ::)
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Post by: crooketarrow on January 19, 2013, 06:24:16 am
   SOME NICE TIPS
  I don't have any to post but I have made a few dozzen  but have traded them off. But I did trade for a couple moose antlers last year to carve but I might make a couple heads.

       Here's a couple things might help you out.
  MOOSE antlers not propous like other antlers.  A drimal makes makeing heads easy and fast. For hunting heads (steel or bone)  I use the 3x1 HOWARD HILL ratio or ever 3/4 works better with lower poundage. The thinner the points the sharper or better edge they can get. You can't really shapen them like steel heads.
  I shot 2 does to years in a row with bone points made of moose antlers. They kill just as quick as anything with lung shots.
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Post by: madcrow on January 29, 2013, 06:53:01 am
Here are a few i made this past weekend.  Due to slick roads, I couldn't get to teh shop, so no power tools were abused.  Hacksaw, sandstone, sandpaper and some files were what i had.

(http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp161/madcrow_2008/Bones/100_1199_zps047c391b.jpg)

I tried to get them thin for better penetration, even though there are only two that i can hunt with.

(http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp161/madcrow_2008/Bones/100_1201_zps0abab27a.jpg)

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Post by: madcrow on January 29, 2013, 03:54:11 pm
Now that I see them on the big screen, i see every mistake I made.
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Post by: Trapper Rob on January 29, 2013, 05:02:45 pm
Madcrow can't see no mistake's those look pretty nice to me.
Rob
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Post by: Pappy on January 30, 2013, 05:59:31 am
Man yall are making some fine looking heads.Very nice work. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: crooketarrow on January 30, 2013, 06:18:30 am
   I stained mine, I think stained looks better than plain white.
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Post by: Frawg on January 30, 2013, 06:18:29 pm
Very Nice points Eddie. I need to free up some time and get some made up
Matt
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Post by: madcrow on January 30, 2013, 08:51:20 pm
Normally I soak them in coffee, but i figured i better take a pic before I give them away.
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Post by: raghorns on January 31, 2013, 04:47:23 pm
Madcow...those look great....I like the looks of them while they are white, but they look like a flashlight when you're setting in a tree. They look pretty cool when stained with leather dye also.

Lyle
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Post by: JackCrafty on February 16, 2013, 01:11:11 pm
 :)  More inspiration...

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/DSC_0517_zpsf6284546.jpg)
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg112/jackcrafty/strongbonearrowhead.jpg)
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Post by: sadiejane on February 18, 2013, 12:16:54 pm
this is a photo from the book "earth pigments and paint of the california indians"
by paul douglas campbell.
tried to find them online but cldnt so just took this pic.
really nice bone points that i would like to replicate when i get another dremel.
yeah yeah, i know my ancestors didnt use dremels but they woulda ifn they had em

(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/arrow%20making/IMG_0889_zps04700987.jpg)

there are some interesting bone points on the lithic casting lab pages
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Post by: ojibwatbowyer on February 22, 2013, 10:42:30 am
What about barbed antler or bone forshafts? That would be something neat to see, like from the hupa arrow set from P.A. article Treasures of the Smithsonian a few years ago.
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Post by: sadiejane on February 22, 2013, 04:09:53 pm
a few barbed bone points from history

(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/artifacts/images-13_zps9aeeff22.jpg)

(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/artifacts/images-14_zps9db7388e.jpg)

(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/artifacts/images-10_zps1d6166cc.jpg)

(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/artifacts/images-11_zpse5be1e92.jpg)

(http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab346/sadiejane9/artifacts/images-12_zps567f2cd1.jpg)



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Post by: JackCrafty on February 23, 2013, 11:46:04 am
Nice, Sadie!
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Post by: Hunts with stone on March 06, 2013, 06:27:35 pm
Ok Sadiejane asked me to post these here. These are my new work and the dove tail is the last one that was not posted before. Beat root stain(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u455/Tris_Smith/knapping/FF2911FF-E21A-48FD-84C4-7F0EF71F0640-2532-0000056C26BF24F4_zps1f0748f7.jpg)(http://i1068.photobucket.com/albums/u455/Tris_Smith/knapping/53CD84CE-4137-4029-B513-D99B867577AE-2532-0000056C146659D3_zps2a31717a.jpg)
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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on March 08, 2013, 11:59:04 am
What is the brown stain?
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Post by: Hunts with stone on March 08, 2013, 06:21:15 pm
The brown is homemade black walnut. Thanks
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Post by: stickslinger on May 06, 2013, 06:52:44 pm
Do pet store bones work okay? As they are boiled before they are shelved I have some apprehension before buying one. 
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Post by: Hunts with stone on May 17, 2013, 03:38:18 pm
Raw bone has merrow oils in it. This makes it soft. Pet store bones work great. Go for it.
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Post by: Ed Brooks on June 06, 2013, 09:55:51 am
My 1st attempt at a 3 bladed bone broad head along with some elk tooth knock inserts.
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Post by: JackCrafty on June 06, 2013, 10:48:44 am
very cool   8)  love the inserts.
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Post by: Ed Brooks on June 06, 2013, 03:45:10 pm
Thank you JackCrafty, Bone lets even someone like me that can't make a rock point still make a hunt-able point.
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Post by: ncpat on July 15, 2013, 08:12:36 am
I see the guy on the vid used beef, deer & elk bones. What other bones are good? I assume chicken bones are too brittle?

Are any of the bone tips sturdy enough for stumps or trees?
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Post by: Ed Brooks on July 15, 2013, 08:31:05 am
I use deer and elk bones and yes they are sturdy enough for some stumping. Ed
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Post by: BryanS on October 14, 2013, 08:28:21 am
My last 3 weekends.  Have them down to steel wool stage.  This was one beef bone from local store.  Punctured my fingers about 5 times, not too bad.  :)
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Post by: JackCrafty on October 14, 2013, 04:01:13 pm
NICE!   8)
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Post by: IdahoMatt on October 20, 2013, 01:00:13 pm
Very nice!
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Post by: jim mason on September 07, 2014, 08:32:47 pm
why not  use bamboo sharfties and put lead in the sherft
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Post by: Sockrablur on September 18, 2014, 06:42:53 am
I looked at these photos so many times before I made my first bone hunting points for this year I wanted to contribute in return, great resources in these pages, thanks guys!
(http://i.imgur.com/yIdtaHI.jpg)
Bones from last year's 8pts, the smaller ones worked best. I ended up getting 8 heads out of one leg bone...
(http://i.imgur.com/R4wUTJR.jpg)
The very white bones are from a pet store cow bone. I used a belt sander to shape them and then small files to finish shape and hand sanded to 600 grit.
(http://i.imgur.com/Z4s6SXP.jpg)

I experimented with bone FP too. By over shooting the intended weight a little I had extra for shipping the tips even...

(http://i.imgur.com/7XDx01l.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/6D2vZge.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/37kmoIL.jpg)
My first pitch glue lines were sloppy but I improved :)
(http://i.imgur.com/pe1mzb6.jpg)
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Post by: Pat B on September 18, 2014, 06:58:17 am
Welcome to PA, James. Thanks for your contribution.  8)
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Post by: Sockrablur on September 18, 2014, 08:07:36 am
Thank you Pat!
Hard to capture with a phone camera but I experimented making right and left bevel points when the bone seemed naturally shaped to encourage it. By using the appropriate matching fetching I figured there could be a penetration gain. At the least no harm in trying...
(http://i.imgur.com/l5o6pcV.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1tockKp.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/L4a1wQW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/gqCBaB1.jpg)

I chose to individually notch each head after fitted to the actual hunting shaft it belongs to because my wild rose and redosier dogwood shafts were all different sizes after reduction in spine and weight. By doing this it took more time but allowed me to notch the head exactly to the sides of the shaft which in turn helped the sinew wrapping lay as flat as possible creating as little resistance to penetration as it could on an animal.
I also found it helpful being able to file down/shape the base of the notches to reduce any unwanted width. Here in N.Y. I need 1" but wanted no extra to slow me down on the way into a chest cavity.
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Post by: wildman on September 19, 2014, 10:56:53 am
Carp plate points. I think I may be on to something.
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Post by: Pat B on September 19, 2014, 09:56:55 pm
I got one of them carp bone points stuck on the end of a feathered stick.  8)
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Post by: Sockrablur on September 22, 2014, 09:03:48 pm
Wildman do you have any photos showing the bone removed from the fish? This is very interesting! Well done sir...
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Post by: wildman on September 26, 2014, 08:28:32 pm
I will try to get a mini build along. There is really not much to it , these bones scream to be made into a point. They are very thick and dense towards the serious end , and thin towards the base naturally. Two cuts and some sanding/grinding make a point. I made my first one for the arrow trade that Pat B got. A friend who shoots fish and also primitive with me loves them. We have been talking about trying them for awhile now.
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Post by: jmichelin1984 on January 02, 2015, 08:05:18 pm
I am sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but, some of the heads ive noticed have a slight conical slot for the shaft to fit into, do you guys and gals use a half round file or some other tool to do that with?
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Post by: JackCrafty on January 02, 2015, 08:44:11 pm
Yes, and various other tools can be used also.  I use the rounded part on my belt sander.
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Post by: Lee Lobbestael on January 07, 2015, 08:43:17 pm
Has anyone killed a deer with a bone point? I hope to make some and hunt with them next season because I can't get the hang of knapping and bone points look great!
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Post by: Ontario Archer on February 11, 2015, 05:30:24 pm
Hello all,
      I'm new to the forum, but have been consulting it for years. Here are some pics from my first all-natural arrows, including bone broadheads. I used cow bone from the pet store, and modern tools (the smell of the bone being worked with my dremel tool was terrible!). These arrowheads passed straight through a thick couch cushion and into the rotten-log back stop many times without damage, from about 25 yards. I suspect they'd do the trick on a deer.
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Post by: flungonin on March 23, 2015, 12:32:49 am
Those look nice and sturdy. Good job.
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Post by: Locogear on November 08, 2015, 12:44:31 pm
I may have missed it, but what did the bone come from?
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Post by: JackCrafty on November 08, 2015, 09:03:56 pm
The bones are from cow, deer, and elk leg bones mostly.  You can buy cow leg bones from stores that sell them as dog chews.
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Post by: lebhuntfish on November 09, 2015, 12:11:53 am
Man, not sure how I missed this thread. I'll definitely be spending some time looking at this one.
Patrick
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Post by: Locogear on November 09, 2015, 06:47:41 am
The bones are from cow, deer, and elk leg bones mostly.  You can buy cow leg bones from stores that sell them as dog chews.

That's good, I have plenty of leg bones in my field :p
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Post by: Swamp Thang on September 24, 2016, 09:04:10 pm
Anybody ever get them close to razor sharp I have some made and they have great points but I'm trying to get the blade part wicked sharp.
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Post by: Dakota Kid on September 24, 2016, 09:45:15 pm
I got mine sharp enough shave arm hair. I used a lansky sharpener. It holds the blade and the stone at fixed angles. I wanna say 15 degrees for razors. Make sure you progress all the way past a fine grit stone. I polished mine with buffing compound for the last step.

Mother of pearl is much harder and denser. It will hold an edge longer than bone. I prefer it over bone in every aspect except the allergy I have to shell dust.  :(
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Post by: lebhuntfish on September 25, 2016, 07:02:48 am
Well I made my first bone point for the arrow trade. It was made from a skull plate of a whitetail,  right where the antler grows out of their head. 
I did have trouble getting it sharp and opted to leave well enough alone since it sunk into my modern block style target just about as far as my trade points do. I plan on making more but I will be working on the angle of the point to see if I can get it sharper next time. 

Patrick

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/20160904_144848_zpsob2vyyo5.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-09/20160904_144848_zpsob2vyyo5.jpg.html)
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Post by: selfbow joe on September 25, 2016, 02:55:05 pm
These are some really cool bone broadheads. Looks like I'm going to have to save some deer legs and give it a try.
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Post by: RatherBinTheWoods on October 26, 2016, 07:00:27 am
Just read through this entire thread. I have experimented with bone previously but the points on here have really whet my whistle for it again. I guess I'll be down the pet shop later!! Thanks for the inspiration.

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Post by: burtonridr on August 17, 2018, 09:52:09 am
Just got through the whole thread.... Man, there is some cool stuff in here.

Just another skill to learn, good thing I kept that elk leg bone for my dog to chew on  >:D