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Title: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on February 24, 2013, 01:39:11 am
Told u guys there are many lithic sources here in NY...this is a great reference for u rock hunters!!!

Enjoy!

Russ



States
Toolstone Varieties
Related Links
Bibliography
Lithic Sourcing
Archeologists guide to toolstone sources.
A C D F G H I K L M N O P R S T U V W
State Varieties

Alabama: Bangor Chert, Buttahachie River Chert, Fort Payne Chert, Horse Creek Chert, Ocala Chert, St Louis Agate, Talahatta Chert, Talahatta Quartzite aka Snowflake, Tuscaloosa Chert

 

Alaska: Akmalik Chert, Denby Flint, Etiuluk Chert, Ford Lake Chert, Gallagher Flint, Hart River Chert, Imnaitchiak Chert, Kuna Chert, Lisburne Chert, Livengood Chert, McCann Hill Chert, Otuk Chert, Tahkandi Chert

 

Arizona: Chuska Chert, Chuska Mountain Chert, Goldfield Jasper, Jack Creek Quartzite, Narbona Pass Chert, Washington Pass Carnelian, Washington Pass Chert, Yellow Banded Jasper, Zebra Chert, Zuni Spotted Chert

 

Arkansas: Barren Fork Chert, Big Fork Chert, Blalock Sandstone, Boone Chert, Cotter, Crowley’s Ridge Gravels, Fernvale Chert, Hale Chert, Jefferson City Chert, Johns Valley Shale, Kiamichi Chert, Kiamichi Shale, Novaculite, Olitio Quartzite, Ouchita Chert, Penters Chert, Pierson Chert, Pinters Conglomerate, Pitkin Chert, Polk Creek Chert, Reed’s Spring Chert

 

California: Bees Wax Chert, Bridge River Chert, Calico Hills Chert, Chuska Chert, Chuska Mountain Chert, Elmono Chert, Franciscan Chert, McKittrick Chert, Mohave Desert Chert, Monteray Chert, Piner Chert, Ribbon Chert, Sepulvida Chert, Stirling Quartzite, Weverton Quartzite

 

Colorado: Brushy Basin Chert, Burrow Canyon Chert, Cay Creek Chert, Cortez Silicified Sediment, Cripple Creek Chert, Kremmling Chert, Kroenke Grandiorite, Ortho Quartzite, Petty Agate, Ptarmigan Chert, Silicified Volcanic Ash, Troublesome Chert, Trout Creek Jasper

 

Connecticut: Blue Hills Felsite, Brain Tree Slate, Fort Ann Chert, Gettysburg Rhyolite, Hingham Felsite, Hornfels, Marblehead Felsite, Mattapan Felsite, Mayfield Chert, Mount Independence Chert, Pine Tree Brook Felsite, Wakefield Felsite

 

Delaware: Iron Hill Jasper

 

Florida: Bay Bottom Chert, Coastal Plains Chert, Coral, Hillsborough Chert, Suwannee River Chert, Wacissa Chert, Williston Chert

 

Georgia: Armuchee Chert aka Horse Leg Creek, Brier Creek Chert, Conasauga Chert, Flint River Chert, Frog Mountain Chert, Little Chicamunga Chert, Newala Chert, Summerville Chert

 

Hawaii:

 

Idaho: Allenby Chert, Rex Chert

 

Illinois: Anna Chert, Avon Chert, Bailey Chert, Baylis Chert, Bryantsville Chert aka Burton, Cave In Rock Chert, Chouteau Chert, Clear Creek Chert, Cobden Chert, Coffee Creek Chert, Degonia Chert, Dongola Chert, Eagle Point Chert, Eastport Chert, Elco Chert, Ellison Chert, Elwood Chert, Everett Chert, Excello Chert, Fall Creek Chert, Fern Glen Chert, Grassy Knob Chert, Grime Hills Chert, Grover Chert, Hartline Chert, Illinois Agate, Joliet Chert, Kankakee Chert, Kincaid Chert, Lamoine Chert, LaSalle Chert, Lead Creek Chert, Lost River Chert, Mill Creek Chert, Mounds Gravel Chert, Old Blue Chert, Oolitic Chert, Perth Chert, Platteville Galina, Prairie Du Chien Chert, Racine Chert, Salem Chert, Silurian Chert, Sky Hill Chert, Upper St Louis Chert Utica Jewelstone, West Franklin Chert, Wyandotte Chert

 

Indiana: Attica Chert, Bloomville Chert, Brown County Chert, Cannon Ball Blue Chert, Cataract Sandstone, Derby Chert, Ditney Chert, Ferdinand Chert, Four Mile Creek Chert, Harrison County Chert, Harrodsburg Chert, Holland Chert, Indian Creek Chert, Indiana Green Chert, Jeffersonville Chert, Kenneth Chert, Laurel Chert, Lieber Chert, Liston Creek Chert, Moline Chert, Perkins Chert, Phase Chert, Pipe Creek Chert, Plummer Chert, Prout Chert, Stanford Chert, West Patricia Chert, Wilcox Chert

 

Iowa: Blanding Chert, Croton Banded Chert, Ervine Creek Chert, Hopkinton Chert, Maynes Creek Chert, Montrose Chert, Scotch Grove Chert, Wausaw Chert, Wassonville Chert, Winterset Chert

 

Kansas: Argentine Chert, Buffalo Chert, Flint Hill Chert, Foraker Chert aka Four Acre, Fort Riley Chert, High Plains Chert, Kansas Blue Chert, Neva Chert, Smokey Hill Silicified Chalk, Spergen Crystalline Saccaroidal Dolomite, Spiculitic Chert, Tonto Chert

 

Kentucky: Bowling Green Chert, Boyle Chert, Breathitt Chert, Candy Creek Chert, Carter Cave Chert, Floyds Knob Chert, Haney Agate, Haney Jasper, Hopkinsville Chert, Kentucky Black Chert, Kentucky Blue Chert, Kentucky Hornstone, Khukitan Depalite, Muldraugh Chert, Paoli Chert, Sonora Chert, Saint Genevieve Chert, Saint Louis Green Chert, Tyrone Chert, Wayne County Chert

 

Louisiana: Eagle Hill Silicified Wood, Turkey Creek Chert

 

Maine: Cow Head Chert, Kineo Felsite, Munsungun Lake Chert, North Hood Chert, Ramah Chert, Vermont Jasper

 

Maryland: Blue Jasper, Tongue River Chalcedony

 

Massachusetts: Saugus Rhyolite

 

Michigan: Cordell Chert, Hudson Bay Chert, Lake Superior Agate, Logan County Chert, Norwood Chert, Stoney Creek Chert, Ten Mile Creek Chert

 

Minnesota: Alma Quartzite, Amygaloidal Basalt, Arenaceous Silicified Siltstone, Banded Jasper, Bijou Hills Quartzite, Biwabik Silica, Brandon Flint, Cat Head Chert, Catlinite aka Minnesota Pipestone, Cedar Valley Chert, Cochrane Chert, Drusy Chert, Grand Meadow Chert, Hixton Silicified Quartzite, Kakabeka Quartzite, Knife Lake Siltstone, Knife River Flint, Ledge Ridge Chert, Maquoketa Chert, Powder River Porcellanite, Prairie Du Chien Chert, Rapid Chert, Red River Chert, Root River Jasper, Selkirk Chert, Shakopee Dolomite, Shell Rock Chert, Silver Hill Quartzite, Sioux Conglomerate Jasper, Sioux Jasper, Swan River Chert

 

Mississippi: Buttahachie River Chert, Catahoula Chert, Choctaw Agate, Citronelle Chert, Fort Payne Chert, Horse Creek Chert, Saugus jasper, Talahatta Chert, Talahatta Quartzite

 

Missouri: Burlington Chert, Cedar Hill Chert, Cotter Chert, Coyote Creek Chert (Burlington Variant), Crescent Hills Chert (Burlington Variant), Crescent Quarry Chert, Everton Chert, Fayetteville Chert, Harvester Creek Chert, High Ridge Chert, High View Chert (Burlington Variant), Lafayette Chert, Lake Of The Woods Chert, Mozarkite Chert, Payson Chert, Pierson Chert, Plattsmouth Fossiliferous Chert, Reed’s Spring Chert, Smokey Hills Jasper, Spring Branch Chert

 

Montana: Dean Lake Chert, Everson Creek Chert, Helena Chert, Montana Porcellanite, Pryor Mountain Chert, Roony Creek Chert, Schmitt Chert,

 

Nebraska: Agatized Wood, Burroughs Quartzite, Hartville Chert, Nehawka Flint, Moss Agate, Niobrara Chert, Republic Chert, Rice Agate, Sioux Quartzite, Smokey Hill Silicified Chalk

 

New Hampshire: Mount Jasper Flow, Mount Japer Rhyolite, Mount Willard Chert

 

New Jersey: Cuesta Quartzite, Limonite, Lockatong Chert, Watchung Carnelian

 

New Mexico: Aleman Ribbon Chert, Chuska Chert, Chuska Mountain Chert, Cumbres Pass Chert, Dakota Quartzite, Hydroquartz aka Jalopal, Mogollon Mountain Chert, Quay County Chert, San Andres Chert, Yeso Chert, Abique Agate

 

New York: Albanel Quartzite, Ancaster Chert, Bayport Chert, Browns Pass Quartz, Bruce Chert, Cabot Head Chert, Chaumont Chert, Cherry Valley Silicified Shale, Collingwood Chert, Coxsacki Chert, Deep Kill Chert, Deschambault Chert, Diana Quartzite, Esopus Silicified Shale, Fossil Hill Chert, Goat Island Chert, Haldimand Chert, Hickory Corners Silicified Sandstone, Hoyt Chert, Kalkberg Chert, Leray Chert, Little Falls Chert, Mistassini Quartzite, Mount Merino Chert, Normans Kill Chert, Onondaga Chert, Point Aubin Chert, Port Ewen Chert, Princeton Chert, Reynales Silicified Sandstone, Shequindah Quartzite, Snake Hill Chert, Tecolate

 

Nevada: Battle Mountain Chalcedony, Belleville Chalcedony, Coaldale Chert, Paiute Agate, Slaven Chert, Tosawihi Opalite (Opalised Sinter)

 

North Carolina: Ridge & Valley Chert

 

North Dakota: Agatized Wood, Knife River Flint, Knife River Silicified Peat, Little Heart Chalcedony, Petrified Bog, Rainy Buttes Flint, Sentinal Buttes Porcellanite, Taylor Bed Silcrete, Turtle Valley Chert, Plate Chalcedony

 

Ohio: Allen Creek Chert, Bisher Chert, Brush Creek Chert, Carter Cave Chert, Cedarville Chert, Coshocton Chert, Crab Orchard Banded Chert, Crooksville Chert, Delaware Chert, Flint Ridge Chert, Gull River Chert, Honey Creek Chert, Jelly Roll Chert, Licking River Chert, Nellie Chert, Nethers Chert, Paoli Chert, Plum Run Chert, Scioto Chert, Ten Mile Creek Chert, Uniontown Chert, Upper Mercer Chert, Vanport Chert, Zaleski Chert

 

Oklahoma: Arkansas River Chert, Chickachoc Chert, Day Creek Chert, Florance Chert, Foraker Chert aka Four Acre, Frisco Chert, Kay County Chert, Keokuk Chert, Ogalla Quartzite, Peoria Chert, Potato Hills Chert (Novaculite), Reed’s Spring Chert, Stanley Chert, Stanley Shale, Toronto Chert, Woodford Chert

 

Oregon: Caviar Chert, Malheur Chert, Oolitic Agate, Wascoite Jasper

 

Pennsylvania: Bald Eagle Jasper, Boise Blanc Chert, Burns Jasper, Durham Jasper, Edgecliff Chert, Hardyston Jasper, Houserville Jasper, Kettle Point Chert, Loyalhanna Chert, Monongahela Chert, Metarhyolite, Ontelaunee Chert, Penns Creek Chert, Pennsylvania Jasper, Port Franks Chert, Rickenbach Chert, Scotia Oolite Chert, Shriver Chert, South Mountain Chert, Vera Cruz Jasper

 

Rhode Island: Lime Rock Jasper

 

South Carolina:

 

South Dakota: Badlands Chalcedony, Bijou Hills Quartzite, Colha Grey Chalcedony, Flat Top Chalcedony, Hogback Quartzite, Lange Agate, Minnelusa Quartzite, Mitchell Chert

 

Tennessee: Bach Creek Chert, Banded Slate, Boone Chert, Brassfield Chert, Buffalo River Chert, Camden Chert, Canutillo Chert, Clifton Chert, Copper Ridge Chert, Dover Chert, Frog Mountain Chert, Harbert Hills Chert, Hornstone, Horse Creek Chert, Knox Chert, Oriskany Silicified Sandstone, Red Slate, Ridge & Valley Chert

 

Texas: Aleman Ribbon Chert, Alibates Silicified Dolomite, Arlington Chert, Balmorhea Agate, Bangor Agate, Barren Fork Chert, Brazos River Chert, Brushy Creek Chert, Calcasieu Citronnella, Comanche County Chert, Cow Plop Chert, Edwards Plateau Chert, Fort Hood Flint, Garden City Chert, Georgetown Chert, Ives Conglomerate Chert, Leon River Chert, Llano Chert, New Braunfels Chert, Owl Creek Chert, Palm wood, Paris Chert, Pedernales River Chert, Quitague Quartzite, Root beer Chert (Knife River?), Salmon Peak Chert, Scarborough Ranch Chert, Tecovas Jasper, Texas Oil Chert, Texas Tortilla Chert, Uvalde Chert, Woodbine Siltstone

 

Utah: Brian Head Chert, Morrison Quartzite, Phosphoria Shale, Sheep Creek Quartzite, Somerville Chert, Utah Wonderstone

 

Vermont: Cheshire Quartzite, Colchester Jasper, Hathaway Chert, Saint Albans Chert

 

Virginia: Antietam Quartzite, Cat Tail Creek Chert, Flint Run Jasper, Williamson Chalcedony, Williamson Chert

 

Washington: Hozomeen Jasper, Hozomeen Obsidian, Hozomeen Quartzite, Hozomeen Chert, Top Of The World Chert

 

West Virginia: Breccia Quartzite, Harriman Chert, Hunterville Chert, Kanawha Chert

 

Wisconsin: Animikie Chert, Baraboo Quartzite, Harmilda Chert, Hixton Silicified Quartzite, Oneota Chert, Peoria Chert, Silver Mounds Silicified Sandstone, Starved Rock Chert

 

Wyoming: Absaroka Chert, Dendritic Chert, Hartville Chert, Madison Banded Chert, Miongin Coble Chert, Opalized Wood, Spanish Diggings Quartzite, Spanish Diggings Agate, Spanish Diggings Red Breccia, Spanish Diggings Chert, Spanish Diggings Dendritic Jasper, Spanish Point Dendritic Agate, Tiff, Tiger Chert, Tosi Chert, Wapsipsicon Chert, Wyoming Oil Chert

 

Additions and corrections to this list are invited and welcome.

 

Much of this comprehensive state list was compiled through the dedicated research of Loyd E. Doty of Tennessee. His published list can be found in it’s entirety at:

http://www.theaaca.com/newslettersummer08_files/Page3035.htm

 
 
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: TRACY on February 24, 2013, 08:15:50 am
Neat resource. I noticed for indiana that there were several types listed for hornstone and that the actual name was left out- Wyandotte chert according to state geologist. Very nice reference.
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: Trapper Rob on February 24, 2013, 08:19:58 am
Thanks for posting that there's more different stone in PA than I thought.
Rob
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on February 24, 2013, 11:50:20 pm
Im sure theres more in most states then listed but its a great source list and if u were gonna move somewhere I would make sure to check the list first!...LOL

Russ
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: JackCrafty on February 25, 2013, 02:37:42 am
  ?   Hmmm...  I live about 30 minutes from Garden City, Texas and there aint no chert there to speak of.   ???

Lists like this are a start but are by no means accurate.  As far as Texas goes (my home state), the list is missing things like the Rio Grande Gravels, West Texas chalcedony, Chert deposits in the Big Bend Area, and several others.  And confusing rootbeer chert with knife river chert is downright goofy.  And many of the names given like Pedernales chert, Llano chert, Georgetown chert, New Braunfels chert, Root beer chert, Comanche county chert, Fort Hood flint, etc, are all part of the Edwards Plateau formation, aka Edwards Plateau chert.  It can get confusing to someone not familiar with the "nicknames" for basically the same types of rock.

Anyways, I hope this leads to a good discussion of sources.  I've almost given up on finding accurate info on this subject from online sources.  The best sources for this type of info are flintknapping groups.
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on February 25, 2013, 06:55:20 am
Thanks Patrick, I found the source on the internet so I did discover there are some missing chert sources..for instance here in newyork there are cherts coming from some of the major rock formations but aren't listed such as helderburg.  One of the main reasons I posted was for the newyork people to see if they don't know that there are more than 3 types of knappable rocks .  It is a start and can be a quick reference for most people.  Thanks!

Russ
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: Newbow on February 25, 2013, 11:00:26 am
A source that doesn't give at least approximate locations and doesn't mention obsidian in Oregon (of all places) is hardly complete and not particularly useful in itself, though it might give someone an idea to do a search on some particular stone type that happens to be mentioned.
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: Wolf Watcher on February 25, 2013, 02:12:09 pm
Not sure I trust this list:  At least in the states I have knowledge of.  Montana without Montana Moss Agate,  Wyoming without jasper and agate, obsidian (Yellowstone).  Oregon has about all the different types of jaspers you can imagine as well as the finest obsidain you can find anywhere.  Mt. St Helens alone in Washington has a large variety of jasters and agates!  Joe
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on February 25, 2013, 03:22:08 pm
I knew from the get go that this list isn't 100% accurate.  Maybe we can all add in what we know and make a resource page...maybe go as far as description and a picture..it would be a nice page especiall for folk who are just getting started...
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: Wolf Watcher on February 25, 2013, 05:38:16 pm
A really detailed and accurate list maybe made up from someone from each state would be invaluable.  We could all add to the list!  Joe
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on February 25, 2013, 10:58:20 pm
Thanx Joe, I agree!!  I also think having as many pictures would be a great thing as well!!!  I dont know of any other primitive site who has that much detail.  It would be a very valuable thing for primitive Archer


Russ
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: blacktail on February 25, 2013, 11:15:28 pm
i would like to find out more about some of the oregon rock..i havent herd of 3 of them and here there at..i do some snooping around..thanks for sharing..john
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: JackCrafty on February 26, 2013, 12:17:53 am
Since 2008, I've been putting together a list of rock sources in TX.  I know where to pick up free rock when I need some.  The trouble with making such a list public is that the rock will be gone in less than a year.  That's right, thousands of pounds of rock...  gone.  That's why there isn't such a list in the public domain.  If the rock has value, there are more than just flintknappers out there who will scoop it up in hopes of making money off the rock some day.  Or the landowners will become hostile to people hunting for rock on their land if they do not get payment for the rock or if people are trespassing.  Texas is already very hostile in that regard.  Even the state has regulations against gathering rock on public land.  It has become a big issue.

If you join an established flintknapping group, on the other hand, you won't have trouble finding rock for free.

Having said that, there's nothing holding anyone back from making geologist reports public.  They have very detailed maps on lithic resources in every state.  Many are already in archaeological papers and books.  Of course, the maps are not free.
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: Jimbob on February 26, 2013, 07:34:50 am
There are a couple of rocks missing from the North Carolina list, Quartzite and Rhyolite.
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on February 26, 2013, 08:37:29 am
Patrick I agree with the location thing..my purpose was to list them and a picture id...no addressesor detailed gps...I've worked hard in finding my locations I certainly don't want someone backing up with a dump truck....I think its a good idea for some folks who take a vacation or just take a drive who would know what to look for if they found it...all intention are good.

Russ
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: Mike_H on February 26, 2013, 10:56:21 am
Yeah, an image of each type of rock and general formation distribution map would be great and extremely helpful as there were only two stones foe Maine I have heard of.
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: JackCrafty on February 26, 2013, 04:08:16 pm
Russ, your idea is a good one.  And I certainly agree that a list of knappable rock types, where the rock formations are located, and a picture would be very useful.

It's a big project, but I guess I'll start with Maine.  Right now I'm also researching lithic technology terms, definitions, and theories but the two areas (lithic quarries and lithic technology) often overlap.

Here's what I've got so far from Maine.

From the list posted here:

Cow Head Chert
The name comes from a Native American stone tool kit called the "Cow Head Complex".  The tools from this kit (includes arrowheads) can be found in Newfoundland, Labrador, and Quebec. The vast majority of these tools are made from rhyolite, not chert.  There is no such thing as "cow head chert" in Maine.

Kineo Felsite or Kineo Rhyolite
From wikipedia:  Native Americans once traveled great distances to Mt. Kineo (beside Moosehead Lake) to acquire its rhyolite rock. The mountain is a peculiar geological formation of flint known as siliceous slate, or hornstone. It is the country's largest known mass of this rock, once used by Indians to craft arrowheads, hatchets, chisels, etc. Because Indian implements made from the stone have been found in all parts of New England and even further south, it is evident that various tribes visited Mt. Kineo for centuries to obtain this material.

Some guys over on paleoplanet have made points from this: ---http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/37452#.US0lqRm0IZ0
Also some info here:  ---http://www.fishermensvoice.com/archives/0510KineoFlint.html

Munsungun Lake Chert
Also Munsungan Lake  ---http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305440398903351

North Hood Chert
???  Could not find a legit reference to this chert.

Ramah Chert
Found in Labrador, Canada.  Not found in Maine.  Very limited quantities.
There are only two known sources of high quality, flakeable chert along the entire Labrador coast. One is in the Cape Mugford region, the other is farther north in the area of Ramah Bay. This second source is found in an extremely limited area, as part of a sedimentary formation that runs from Saglek Bay north through Ramah Bay, ending at Nachvak Fiord.  ---http://www.heritage.nf.ca/environment/landscape_ramah.html

Vermont Jasper
Also called Maroon Vermont Jasper
---http://www.mpbn.net/quest/info-chert.shtml

Some other possible knappable rhyolite in Maine:

Lobster Mountain
Much of Lobster Mountain on the west side of the lake and Big Island is underlain by a variety of volcanic rocks collectively called the Lobster Mountain volcanics. These are all Ordovician in age and probably represent volcanic islands created when part of the oceanic crust was subducted. Lobster Mountain itself is underlain by a light greenish gray rhyodacite: an otherwise very fine-grained rock with large angular crystals of quartz. It weathers a distinctive light gray and is well exposed on the trail to the summit that begins at Jackson Cove.

Traveler Rhyolite
Much of the northern part of Baxter State Park is underlain with rhyolite, a light-colored volcanic rock that is similar in composition to granite, in this case the Katahdin granite, but that is much finer grained. In many outcrops the grains are too fine to see with the naked eye. Most of the peaks (The Traveler, North Traveler, Black Cat Mountain), the cliffs around Upper and Lower South Branch Ponds, and the mountains you passed on the way into the park (Horse Mountain) are underlain with this rock. Most of the unit formed from large eruptions of volcanic ash rather than by flows of molten magma. The Traveler Rhyolite is probably 3,200 meters thick and tilts northward at a moderate angle. In a close up of the Traveler Rhyolite, the dark streaks in the rock are flattened pieces of pumice that formed as a rain of volcanic bombs that accompanied the ash eruption.

Vinalhaven Rhyolite
The geology of the northern part of Vinalhaven, from Middle Mountain to Browns Head, is less famous than the Vinalhaven granite but in some ways more interesting. A variety of volcanic rocks give clues to an ancient past when this part of the earth's crust was being formed. Collectively, these rocks have been named the Vinalhaven Rhyolite, after the most common type of volcanic rock there.

Knappable stone from New Hampshire imported into Maine in ancient times:

Banded Spherulitic Rhyolite
Also might be called Mount Jasper Rhyolite, Jefferson, NH

Artifacts of spherulitic rhyolite derived from two locations in northern New Hampshire are significant to minor components of numerous Paleoindian, Archaic and Woodland archaeological sites in Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Vermont and easternmost Quebec. The two known sources of are a dike near the city of Berlin, New Hampshire, and blocks-in-till near the village of Jefferson, New Hampshire.

---http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305440307001094
---http://tommclaughlin.blogspot.com/2011/09/exploring-ancient-cave.html

See below for pics of Banded Spherulitic Rhyolite.

Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: JackCrafty on February 26, 2013, 04:10:00 pm
 :)
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: Mike_H on February 26, 2013, 06:41:10 pm
Thanks Pat.  I emailed the list to a local knapper Dick Doyle Jr.  Some of you may know hin.  He let me know where most of those on the list are from.  You just happen to have given me some possibilities.
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: JackCrafty on February 26, 2013, 07:03:24 pm
If Dick Doyle told you where most of the flint on the list is from, don't be shy.  Let us know!!  General area is fine.  And what the heck is North Hood Chert?
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on February 26, 2013, 11:09:55 pm
That is some cool looking stuff Patrick...Hey Pat would u really go that far north for rock???

Russ
Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: Hunts with stone on February 27, 2013, 05:57:11 am
This is a big Project for sure. I started looking at google earth map overlay's but can't seem to get it worked out. But you can get the Formation and overlay them with roadmaps on google earth. There are References to this on Paleo planet Resource area.
Title: Lithic Sourcing
Post by: Dalton Knapper on February 27, 2013, 08:04:54 am
I looked over the list and it appears to pretty much word for word be that of the Lithic Sourcing web page. It's a site for archeologists to use for rock identification.

Here's that site: ---http://www.lithicsourcing.com/index.htm]http://www.lithicsourcing.com/index.htm

Lithic Sourcing claims that, "This site should be considered a work in progress and will become more useful as more precise information and detailed photographs become available." There is a contact address at the bottom of the page and I would suspect that Ms. Angelo might be interested in making her information more accurate and complete. Looks like it was last updated in Dec. 2012.
Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: JackCrafty on February 27, 2013, 10:48:10 pm
Yep, the same list is on the lithicsourcing site.

And, no, I would not go that far north for rocks.  I'd march myself into walmart and get a bunch of Riesling wine bottles before I did that! :P
Title: Re: CHECK THIS OUT...
Post by: Mike_H on February 28, 2013, 07:02:54 am
If Dick Doyle told you where most of the flint on the list is from, don't be shy.  Let us know!!  General area is fine.  And what the heck is North Hood Chert?

He's never head of it unfortunately.  Could be mislabeled, he used Fort Hood chert.  Most of that listed is probably found artifacts and not local stone deposits.  The only two that are indeed native to Maine are Mussungan Chert and Kineo Rhyolite.

" Mount Jasper in just over the border in New Hampshire. The new ones are Cow Head chert which is from Newfoundland, Ca, and Ramah chert originates from northern Labrador, Ca. Vermont jasper is kind of a misnomer in that it's not very knappable. Never heard of North Hood Chert, Fort hood is quite nice to work, however."  From the email he sent me.  hope he doesn't mind.
Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: Mike_H on February 28, 2013, 08:53:03 am
Just wanted to add that there will be an exhibit during the University of Southern Maine Knap-in of knappable lithics of New England.  I will try to get pictures of it when I'm there.  And if you are lucky enough to come visit, check it out yourselves.
Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: outback118 on March 11, 2013, 07:49:49 pm
one link I have found usefull is ---http://www.mindat.org/]http://www.mindat.org/. You can search for the rock of your choice and will give some hints were to look for it. I first found it looking for gold deposits to prospect.

thats all you will get from me. Rock hounds gard thier honny wholes better than fishermen do.

Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on March 12, 2013, 09:31:15 am
great work so far.  Hey Bob thank for the info.  I would like foe you to give me a call gotta ask you something.  Listen guys my real reason for this project was to give ideas to people most people don't know that there are such a wide variety of Knapp able rock out there and if they knew there was a potential for discovering a new source then great.  Believe me when I tell u we will never run out of flint and if we find new sources then we won't deplete one particular source...good work so far.

Russ
Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: JackCrafty on May 06, 2013, 09:11:36 pm
The guys over on paleoplanet have have a thread on this too.  Just thought I would post a link to it:

---http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/forums/17#.UYhnGYLrkZ0
Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on May 10, 2013, 09:02:20 am
Maybe we can put this up on top for a reference page like it was intended for.  It may be crude but as people add to it maybe after a certain period of time we can clean up the page if needed.  My intentions of creating this page was to teach people who are interested in learning their states Knapp able rocks, rock formations, and everything in between.  This is an important part in the stone tool making.

Russ
Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: JackCrafty on May 10, 2013, 11:12:01 am
Done.  :)
Title: Re: Knappable Rock Resource Page...
Post by: AncientArcher76 on May 10, 2013, 06:00:45 pm
Thanks Patrick