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Main Discussion Area => Cave Men only "Oooga Booga" => Topic started by: huntertrapper on December 16, 2007, 11:47:21 pm
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anyone ever make a bowstring out of the intestine of game. I read how to do it in a traditional bowhunter magazine and was wondering whether anyone has done it. i would like to do it next deer i get so any advice would be good thanks
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Never tried it, but I have always wanted to attempt one. I've read that the Cherokee in my area preferred bear gut for string material. I'm gonna try to round some up and make a string for a Cherokee longbow replica I'm working on.
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3Rivers sells gut hafting material. Pat
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the article said bear was the best also their bigger too.
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Never tried it but like Hillbilly I would like to make a bear gut string for a cherokee replication bow. Good luck.
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Jonathan, you're elected to go get it out of the bear for us. Hurry, now! ;D
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While you are at it, make one from badger (another greasy omnivore) and maybe some other predators. I want to know if bear is really better or just sounds cooler. >:D Justin
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It's quicker than making a sinew string that's fer sure. Intestines really shrink down when dried so it takes multiple plies. They seem to be more durable than rawhide unless you use smaller hides and more plies than deer. Twist them when damp, dry them like a sinew string, and off you go. If you want to get a lot of material out out of season buy natural sausage casing. Yup, hog or sheep isn't as cool as using deer, but it's a lot less stinky than getting guts out of a roadkilled deer in August... They pop when you stick'em if they've been sitting too long.
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I hate to eat fish, it is a matter of taste, and the only thing I hate more than that it to catch an release, that is just plain cruel. But I enjoy fishing. I and I am happy to share the catch with someone who will eat it. So, if I gut the critters, can I get enough gut to make a bow string? TBBII suggests, with out stating clearly, that it is not the gut, but the inner casing that is of use. Is that right? If so, how do you get it out? Pictures therein suggest that intestines would be about nine times the lenth of the fish, is that about right for a bench mark? Seems like it would be fun to catch a mess, cut them put, save some skins and guts and share the flesh. Any thouhts?
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I hate to eat fish, it is a matter of taste, and the only thing I hate more than that it to catch an release, that is just plain cruel. But I enjoy fishing. I and I am happy to share the catch with someone who will eat it. So, if I gut the critters, can I get enough gut to make a bow string? TBBII suggests, with out stating clearly, that it is not the gut, but the inner casing that is of use. Is that right? If so, how do you get it out? Pictures therein suggest that intestines would be about nine times the lenth of the fish, is that about right for a bench mark? Seems like it would be fun to catch a mess, cut them put, save some skins and guts and share the flesh. Any thouhts?
If you go fishing and catch a bunch, make sure to save the air bladders. You can make fish glue with them that is comparable to hide glue but is more water resistant and more pliable. As for gut from fish, there is only one way to find out. Let us know how it works. Justin
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I've made gut strings from sausage casings, Pig gut.
I did some research a few years ago on gut, the type used for stringing tennis rackets and I found out that cattle gut is far stronger than any other gut, makes me wish I still had cows. If anyone has access to cattle gut it would be worth trying
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I did some research a few years ago on gut, the type used for stringing tennis rackets and I found out that cattle gut is far stronger than any other gut, makes me wish I still had cows. If anyone has access to cattle gut it would be worth trying
I would guess that would apply to all the bovine. I am going to make hamburger from an old range cow here shortly, if her gut ain't tough from living on sagebrush and blackbrush, nothing will be. ;D Justin
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You don't like to eat fish,that must be what's wrong with the world.
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I grew up on Fish...living on Lake Superior.....its Un- American to not like Fish....sort of like not eating Chocolate!!!!!!!!!
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Smoked whitefish from Superior mmmmmmmm good eh hoser. ;D
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You can keep the whitefish and send me the walleyes. The walleyes will be starting their spawning runs here by the end of the month if we get some nice weather. Mmmmmmm. Seems like once again we've headed a thread into the kitchen. Where else in the world could you start talking about stringy bear guts and wind up with walleye fillets dipped in beer batter and deep fried golden brown with fried taters and homemade hushpuppies and a little bit of lemon juice squoze on 'em? ;D
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have you noticed the change in the subject? :) ::)
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Won't argue with ya to much on the walleye, but cajun broiled whitefish is oh so good, and better than walleye is there smaller cousin the yellow perch,
then again bluegill is pretty fine, hmmm northen pike properly prepared are also tasty, then again fresh brookies wrapped in tinfoil on hot coals is simple but elegant,
then their are the smelt rolled in flour with al ittle salt and pepper fried in a smoking hot cast iron pan on the bank of the stream with a chilly beverage now that is pure delight.
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yes, brook trout cooked in tin foil with some butter and salt and pepper is always good. or deep fried salomon
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Smoked whitefish from Superior mmmmmmmm good eh hoser. ;D
Stinkin Smoked Whitefish from Thill Fishery on the Lower Harbor in Marquette....I can still smell it on my Hands!!!!!!!! Take Off Hey...you Hoser!!!! Gotta love dem fishies
Hillbilly.....shut up....I am slobbering on the Keyboard here!!! I cant wait till the Walleye are spawning again.....and Crappie and Perch and Pan Fish too......ohh I might hang up the Drawknife for while when that starts!!! I gotta go and wipe off my chin!!!!!
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I have to go a long way for walleye, but we have plenty of bluegill and crappie. I can go 5 minutes from the house and catch rainbow trout and catfish. I would rather eat the catfish fillet and breaded. Lots of brookies and browns too. Not a huge fan of largemouth and striped bass. Justin
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I likes piranha and mudfish cooked over hot wood fire. Likes bass and bream also. But them piranha sure is good ! Yummy....................... ;D ;D ;D............bob
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I likes piranha and mudfish cooked over hot wood fire. Likes bass and bream also. But them piranha sure is good ! Yummy....................... ;D ;D ;D............bob
You like Piranha's Bob....do you want a Pair?????? They are tearing up my Tank....they are going out to the Pond this Spring!!!
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I hear they taste like chicken ::)
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They are tearing up my Tank....they are going out to the Pond this Spring!!!
Now that would be an ecological disaster. Ask Bob what is happening to the native species in Fl. now that everybody is turning loose their tank fish, snakes and lizards. Ever heard of the Northern Snakehead, it was released and is taking over the waterways of the eastern US and California. They tear up the pond just like your tank. Pull them out of the tank and smack them in the head with a hammer. Justin
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Just saw a TV show on the Snakehead, their in the Potomac River big time. Here in the great lakes we have the zebra miuscle, round goby,
eurasian ruffe, spiny water flea and on and on all from ballast water discharge.
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They are tearing up my Tank....they are going out to the Pond this Spring!!!
Now that would be an ecological disaster. Ask Bob what is happening to the native species in Fl. now that everybody is turning loose their tank fish, snakes and lizards. Ever heard of the Northern Snakehead, it was released and is taking over the waterways of the eastern US and California. They tear up the pond just like your tank. Pull them out of the tank and smack them in the head with a hammer. Justin
What Justin said !!!! Dont even get me started on this or we will be here fer 4-5 hours ! >:( Peacock bass(buttefly ) were introduced here in south florida in the late 80's ta eat the exotic species foks are throwin' in the canals, streams and rivers. Not ta mention releasin' other critters in the swamps an fields etc. They ( peacock ) come from the amazon and they LUVS ta eat piranha ! ;D They (peacocks ) are also in the kissimmee lake chain. Ha ! I have seen anacondas, pythons, crocs, camen, iguanas, monkeys, piranha an somethin' else in swamps that ya woulda not believe ! :o I dont think foks know er care what happens to the native species when ya do this. The exotics have NO natural enemies here like where they come from. The monkeys escaped during hurricane andrew from the so. florida zoo in 1992. They have established themselves in the glades and so forth. They are hell on native parrots and birds. Dont let anyone tell ya they are vegetarians ! Bull#^%$ ! Killed a coupla them and ATE em as I do piranha, python an anacondas. Kinna poetic justice dont ya think ? I know about so.florida but I betcha Eddie (mullet ) can tell ya more about central florida. I got a green an yella iguana that lives in my backyard in the trees. Aint had a shot at it yet BUT DINNERS COMIN" ! ;D......................bob
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Hey Bob if my parents let me i will help you eradicate all the invasive species ;D
We have the bighead carp in th mississippi river and they jump out when they hear a boat coming and some people get smaked in the head.
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Just remember fellas bream and bass ain't seafood
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They are tearing up my Tank....they are going out to the Pond this Spring!!!
Now that would be an ecological disaster. Ask Bob what is happening to the native species in Fl. now that everybody is turning loose their tank fish, snakes and lizards. Ever heard of the Northern Snakehead, it was released and is taking over the waterways of the eastern US and California. They tear up the pond just like your tank. Pull them out of the tank and smack them in the head with a hammer. Justin
Nah....I have a Pond that they cant get out of....and they aint going to eat my Koi....dint worry Guys....this isn't going to be like the Big Head Carp and the Zebra Mussels in the Great Lakes....this is a 1000 gallon Plastic lined Pond in my Back Yard...with no way to get to the Waterways....there are no Waterways in the Texas Panhandle!!!!!!
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Just saw a TV show on the Snakehead, their in the Potomac River big time. Here in the great lakes we have the zebra muscle, round goby,
Eurasian ruffe, spiny water flea and on and on all from ballast water discharge.
Them damned water Fleas are thick in Lake Michigan...aren't they Dana??? They haven't made to Superior yet....neither have the Mussels....just a Matter of time though....but if the Big Headed Carp get there...aint no stopping them....they thrive in cold Water...and Superior has plenty of that...
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Apparently invasive species have one natural predator... Bob ;D!!! Pets beware >:D.
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>:D >:D >:D >:D >:D ;D..............bob
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I'm with Bob. We have so much Exotic crap running around down here it's starting to get fun. Yankee, those fish look like Paku, False Pirahna. That's all you can legally buy in the U.S. I have a friend that had 2 real ones for Educational purposes that were amazing. You could drop a Gunea Pig in and it looked like you put it in a Food Processor on High. And That Great Lakes white fish you can keep. I went to one of those Fish Boils in Wisconsin a couple of years ago, well, I'd be glad to show them how to fillet and fry it ,served up with Grits and Hushpuppies.
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No wonder ya don't like whitefish mullet, its best broiled, boiled fish sucks. Since when has it been illegal to buy piranha?
I used to have them. Haven't been to pet shop in a few years but they always had the red bellied piranha.
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I guess it's a state-by- state thing. NC has had a law against possessing piranha, walking catfish, grass carp, and a bunch of other species long as I can remember. They added the snakeheads to the list a year or two ago. Somebody caught a big 'ol piranha out of a little lake near where I live a few years ago.
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A bunch of those are on the Federal list. In Utah it is illegal to get caught transporting/releasing any fish with exception of coarse of catch and release.. They must be dead before you leave the water. We have had problems with things as simple as rainbow trout being released. The native cutthroat and brown trout have suffered where these have been introduced. Chub is also a huge problem. They have really hurt the fishery at Lake Powell and many other lakes. Justin
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I went to one of those Fish Boils in Wisconsin a couple of years ago, well, I'd be glad to show them how to fillet and fry it ,served up with Grits and Hushpuppies.
Hushpuppies? You guys eat Hushpuppies? Yuck :)
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You must have never had a real one. Hushpuppies are one of the nectars of the gods. :)
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Oh yea hushpuppies are awesome, I know a southern boy up here and he makes em with a little jalapeno mmmm
Maybe Marc thinks their shoes ;)
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blue gill in grape leaves over coals. thats nirvana
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Fried corn meal with egg and onions. ;) That's about as good as it gets. Add some fried fish, grits and some cole slaw and you are in Southern Heaven! 8) 8) 8) Pat
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Fried corn meal with egg and onions. ;) That's about as good as it gets. Add some fried fish, grits and some cole slaw and you are in Southern Heaven! 8) 8) 8) Pat
Oh Gag Me with a Spoon!!!!!!!!! Now you give me a big Beef Pastie....or a fresh Italian Cudighi Sandwich....any day over a Bowl of Grits or Fried Corn Meal....aint that right Dana??? But the Cole Slaw can stay Pat!!!! >:D >:D
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I may be from the north,however I have to agree with the good ol boys from the sount. There just isnt anything better than a big ol plate of grits,greens,black eyed peas and hushpuppies.
Damn my mouth is water so much just thinking about it,I sure hope drool wont hurt the key board too much. gotta go find some grits ot something now.
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Yankee the methodist church here in town does a pasty sale every month and man
them church ladies know how to make a pasty. Best cudighi I've found is a little butcher shop in Crystal Falls,
mmmm good. Of course polvitsita(sp) for desert is always good.
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I may be from the north,however I have to agree with the good ol boys from the sount. There just isnt anything better than a big ol plate of grits,greens,black eyed peas and hushpuppies.
Damn my mouth is water so much just thinking about it,I sure hope drool wont hurt the key board too much. gotta go find some grits ot something now.
Does Ya Like Chitlins and Collard Greens with a Smigeon a Bacon Fat....or maybe it's Calf Fires with Biscuits an Gravy :P :P
I have lived in Texas for 25 years now....and there still isnt nothing like Home Cooking....but now I have to eat Habernos or Jalapenos with everything!!!!
And Dana...them Methodist Women can sure cook them Pasties....in Ishpeming they used to do Pasties on Wednesday and Spagetti on Fridays....and I would hit Marquette to get me a #16 ... 2 foot long Sub Sandwich from Togo's too....and every year I come Home ...I still do!!!
Dang if I wasnt so Sick right now....I would have to unthaw some Cudighi Meat right now!!!
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oh god yes
almost forgot about those chittlens and collard greens.and yes its gotta have the bacon fat.
you know if it wasnt for my relitives in the south,i never would have known what good eats was ;D
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Oh yea hushpuppies are awesome, I know a southern boy up here and he makes em with a little jalapeno mmmm
Maybe Marc thinks their shoes ;)
Shoes is the only hushpuppy I know of
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Dang Dana, Your church ladies are different than ours. I don't think you could get them to make Pasty's, or sell them. Do they model them also? ;D
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you beat me to that one ed
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Sailordad, It won't be long. The turnip greens and collards are a week out from the first meal. :)
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ohhh,those look tasty,now i'm salivating again :D
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Eddie, quit wasting all that time fooling around with them old nasty collard weeds and get back to growing me some more pineapples. ;D
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Speaking of gut strings, does anyone know how you are handle them once you've got them in the raw. Suggestions needed. I'm talking Buffalo. Danny
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you just cut off workable section about 6 feet,all about the same size diam. wise and rinse them out good with hose.
them ya take a long thin limber stick and poke a tiny hole by the opening of the gut and push the whole thing inside out and wash again.
when you get most of the junk off and lightly scrape any fatty residue/ meat away, you soak it in a salt brine.
this kills alot of the bad stuff, and helps it cure.
then after a day or two in brine rinse again and slice the gut into 3/8 inch or so strips. ya should just fold it in half split it , and then fold that half and split it. this will yield 2 ,2 ply strings.
then i would hand a weight from a nail in rafter in a dry place with air flow to stretch and dry...DO NOT TWIST.
AT THIS POINT YOU ARE JUST DRYING IT TO STORE!
then i just throw it in a piece of pvc so critters dont get at it and it stays dry, till you want to rehydrate and make string/cordage.
then make your string.
mbg
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Thanks for the info Jamie. Danny