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Title: bumpy & bent buckthorn bow
Post by: Badly Bent on March 08, 2014, 03:15:29 pm
Heres some pics of another buckthorn bow I finished last week from one of the staves gifted to me by Cody. Came in at 49# @ 25" and is 56"ntn . It's a fairly sweet shooting bow by my standards, no speed demon but respectable and
smooth drawing and soft in the hand. Pretty straight forward build, typical buckthorn characteristics, knots, cankers, dips, dives, whoop- de doos and twist all worked around with a heat gun and a prayer. :) Put a couple hundred arrows or more though it the last couple days and its holding up real well. Did something a little different on the handle by building up just the middle 2" with cork to fill the palm, wrapped that in deerskin and trimmed 1" at each end with birch bark. Finish is eight coats tru oil over umber and black rubbed in earth pigments. Tips gently flipped, pin nock at top and diamond nock at bottom. I'm enjoying shooting this one. :)
Thanks for looking, Greg
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Post by: Badly Bent on March 08, 2014, 03:17:28 pm
as always a few more pics.
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Post by: bubby on March 08, 2014, 03:19:20 pm
nice one greg, as always it has your artistic look to it and a pleasure to look at, that cork is some great stuff aint it, bub
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Post by: Pat B on March 08, 2014, 03:23:34 pm
I love everything about it and with great tiller too.  8)
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Post by: JonW on March 08, 2014, 03:36:09 pm
Greg you're making me jealous again. Sweet bow my friend.
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Post by: SLIMBOB on March 08, 2014, 03:57:19 pm
The tiller is as close to ideal as you can get.  Very nice Sir!  One day I expect to walk into some establishment, see a bow on the wall and know instantly, that's a Badly Bent bow!  (Uhmm, no pun intended).
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Post by: H Rhodes on March 08, 2014, 03:58:25 pm
That's another one with your signature look.  I like it.  Sweet bend on that piece of buckthorn.  I haven't used cork on a handle yet.  Gonna have to try that.  Fine looking bow Greg.
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Post by: osage outlaw on March 08, 2014, 04:12:05 pm
Very nice Greg! 
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Post by: Badly Bent on March 08, 2014, 04:17:22 pm
Thank ya bubster, yeah that cork makes for a nice cushiony grip.
Thanks Pat, I had to fuss with this one quite a bit to get the tiller even enough so that it shot smoothly.
Thanks Jon, I'm sure you have some bows that would smoke this one though.
Thank ya Slim, appreciate the compliment, no pun taken. :)
Thanks Howard, Yeah I'm gonna use more cork padding on my bows, real good feel to it. This cork is some thick stuff that I get from echo archery (Carson), works  great and he is a good guy to deal with.
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Post by: Badly Bent on March 08, 2014, 04:18:27 pm
Thanks Clint
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Post by: RyanR on March 08, 2014, 04:43:39 pm
Now that is sweet! Nice work. ;)
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Post by: vinemaplebows on March 08, 2014, 05:07:50 pm
Very nice tiller, good looking bow! :)
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Post by: koan on March 08, 2014, 05:29:20 pm
Love everything bout it! IMO thats what a self bow should look like.... Brian
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Post by: koan on March 08, 2014, 05:32:02 pm
That bow lays purty flat, curious how much reflex, if any, you started with? Brian
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Post by: ajooter on March 08, 2014, 06:21:53 pm
All the great bowyers on here have their own distinct style and you are no exception.  The natural looking finish work you do is outstanding.  I love this bow!!  Great tiller to boot!!
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Post by: BOWMAN53 on March 08, 2014, 06:48:04 pm
Gorgeous bow.
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Post by: half eye on March 08, 2014, 06:53:13 pm
That sir is a bow of the first order. Absolutely beautiful.
rich
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Post by: HighEagle on March 08, 2014, 06:58:07 pm
Greg,  really nice bow, love its look the yellow stain and dark tips. One of my favorite color combinations. The Buckthorn looks like my kind of bow wood.  Ill have to do some research see if it grows here in the BC Okanagan. Is that what the back looks like just under the bark? Looks almost like you chased a ring. how the grain runs.  Again what a good job you did.  Chuck
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Post by: Danzn Bar on March 08, 2014, 07:27:23 pm
Wow  :o Greg nice bow, your bows are always easy on the eye's.
DBar
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Post by: Zion on March 08, 2014, 08:30:31 pm
Awesome work as usual, great bend and nice finish. That handle was a cool idea, simple but looks comfortable.
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Post by: Will H on March 08, 2014, 08:52:47 pm
I love your style Greg, that bow is just beautiful!
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Post by: WhitefeatherFout on March 08, 2014, 09:27:41 pm
That's a dandy looking bow.  I really like the looks and character of it.  I'm going to have to try that wood sometime. 
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Post by: IdahoMatt on March 08, 2014, 09:56:19 pm
Yet another Greg,  yet another.  Great job man.  I love it.
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Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 08, 2014, 10:29:09 pm
That thing is an all out stunner.  That buckskin and birch bark handle looks comfy and classy.  Looks flat and fast!  8)
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Post by: Dvshunter on March 08, 2014, 11:02:24 pm
Man Greg they keep getting better bud. I. An definitely spot one of yours from a lineup now too. We'll done.
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Post by: burchett.donald on March 08, 2014, 11:39:18 pm
 Greg,
           From the earth pigments to the flipped pin nocks...From profile to tiller...I think you done a wonderful job top to bottom. My hats off to you sir...
                                                                               Don
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Post by: paulsemp on March 08, 2014, 11:49:32 pm
I could pick that one out as yours all day long 8) Nice job Greg , look forward to seeing it!
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Post by: Badly Bent on March 09, 2014, 12:07:29 am
Wow thanks for all the comments guys,I really appreciate the feedback and kind remarks. Your all too nice. :)

To Koan; I induced reflex into it prior to tillering with the flipped tips resting 1 7'8" above the handle at the back. It took about 1- 1/2" set and came in a little underweight so I piked it one inch at each end and heat treated it back into 1- 1/2" reflex then adjusted tiller and it ended up with the flipped tips about 1/2" above handle.

To Higheagle; Yes that is the natural back under the bark, sapwood with some very small bits of cambium left on. Sapwood thickness can vary on buckthorn and on this stave it was pretty thick and there is only a small amount of heartwood left on the belly side. I've chased rings on this wood before and left more heartwood than sap and it seems to help the bow hold more reflex although a mostly sapwood bow is fine. Really tough to chase rings on this stuff though. Hope your able to find some in your area Chuck.
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Post by: Weylin on March 09, 2014, 12:12:43 am
I like your style, my friend.  8)
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Post by: Mohawk13 on March 09, 2014, 03:08:38 am
Interesting bow with much character..I Like it..
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Post by: Del the cat on March 09, 2014, 05:03:57 am
Oh yes one sweet bow
Del
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Post by: chamookman on March 09, 2014, 05:55:39 am
Dang - What could I add that hasn't been said? I agree with Paul - I'd recognize one of Your bows anywhere. GREAT bow, and as always the tiller is spot on. Really like that one Greg.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 09, 2014, 09:19:29 am
Another charmer Greg! Sweet finish work as usual. Nothing wrong with that bend either my friend.
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Post by: Trapper Rob on March 09, 2014, 10:01:49 am
Beautiful bow.
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Post by: blackhawk on March 09, 2014, 11:45:03 am
Now that's what I call a badly bent bow ;) sweet bender Greg :)
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Post by: bushboy on March 09, 2014, 12:12:57 pm
very sharp indeed! 8)!
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Post by: Buckeye Guy on March 09, 2014, 03:09:49 pm
Good job !
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Post by: rps3 on March 09, 2014, 06:30:12 pm
Great color combination, handle wrap, and tiller. I have just started using cork myself on handles. Versatile and cheap.
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Post by: Jodocus on March 09, 2014, 07:05:04 pm
Outstanding profile, excellent coloration and the bump is the rare type of luck  ;D
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Post by: Badger on March 09, 2014, 07:39:56 pm
  Ditto all the good stuff said above. I really enjoy seeing real primitive bows still showing up here.
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Post by: simson on March 10, 2014, 04:53:22 am
Just beautiful! I like that really primitive style of your bows Greg. Your Buckthorn bows are a special number, too. Can't forget Miss gnarly Carla. This one is also top notch. I like your art job, elegant, not too much and always done with natural materials.

BTW. after searching for years, I found now Buckthorn in my region (very rare here). I harvested 4 staves last December.
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Post by: missilemaster on March 10, 2014, 11:23:20 pm
Great looking bow as always Greg!
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Post by: Peacebow_Coos on March 11, 2014, 04:50:37 am
Great Work the paint job is beautiful
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Post by: Pappy on March 11, 2014, 08:36:21 am
Very nice bow,primitive looking,cool. Tiller looks very good also. :)
 Pappy
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Post by: Badly Bent on March 11, 2014, 09:55:01 am
Thanks again for all the kind comments gang, I really appreciate the feedback from you all.  :)  Gonna now start on a couple bows from some wood other than buckthorn that have been waiting around the shop for their turn.  ;)
Have some black locust thats a year old now, a red elm stave from blackhawk and some osage & hackberry from Paul
I need to get after. Plus some arrows for some springtime shooting, just in case spring decides to show up around here. :)  We're supposed to get even more snow here tonight. >:(
Greg

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Post by: Josh B on March 11, 2014, 11:54:30 am
That's a dandy!  Me likey!   Josh
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Post by: ohma2 on March 11, 2014, 12:59:54 pm
Great primitive look Wow !!!! :o
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Post by: kleinpm on March 11, 2014, 01:06:41 pm
That really is a great looking bow!

The nice thing about working with bumpy, knotted, crooked wood is that when you use a clean stave it seems so easy. :laugh:
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Post by: Blackcoyote on March 11, 2014, 03:45:35 pm
awesome work as always....look forward to seeing a few of these in person this summer!

I hear ya on the snow...we're suppose to get 5-8" tonight too!
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Post by: hammertime on March 11, 2014, 10:54:11 pm
yup like others have said your bows have a awesome look...this one especially.makes ya wanna put on your face paint and head out to the wilds-Hammertime
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Post by: Badly Bent on March 11, 2014, 11:21:42 pm
I hear ya Hammer. Would you believe a guy made fun of me for putting on my face paint in camp and heading out for one last try with my primitive bow a few years ago on the last day of that hunt. I came back to camp before lunch having taken my first and only elk that morning and think he then decided the face paint wasn't so bad after all. ;)
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Post by: Aaron H on April 02, 2014, 06:22:52 pm
Man, that's a good looking bow you got there.  Well done
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Post by: Wolfgang on April 02, 2014, 06:53:50 pm
It is as it always is: primitive archery is the real progress, as it connects perfection with knowledge about nature and natural material. This wonderful  bow is one of the very proofs that this reality is still existing on earth. Very well done. Greetings and congratulations from Germany!
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Post by: DuBois on April 02, 2014, 07:36:46 pm
Don't know how I missed this one. I love it. Wish I could do some buckthorn this much justice (since I got a forest of it across the road)
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Post by: Badly Bent on April 02, 2014, 09:15:25 pm
Thanks Falcon, I appreciate the compliment on the bow.
Thank you Wolfgang for the eloquent prose, very nicely said my friend.

Thanks Marco, If you have a forest of this buckthorn keep after it man, you'll get some good bows. I think I've made around a dozen bows from this wood so far but broke at least five others from this wood figuring out what could and could not be done with it, a much higher failure rate than any other wood type I've played with. It grows riddled with knots, twist and others flaws but is awfully durable in spite of its flaws if you can keep the back clean and and work around all the imperfections. For me it is the most interesting and fun wood to try and get a bow out of.