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Title: backing bow with deerhide? update!!
Post by: 4dog on March 18, 2014, 04:53:09 pm: i got a bow that i want to back with deerhide...i need to deal with the hide..quickest expedient way to get the hair off and the rest of the meat..so i can use it would be helpful..thanks.
Title: Re: backing bow with deerhide?
Post by: aaron on March 18, 2014, 07:26:58 pm: first, get a really dull drawknife and a 6 foot section of PVC pipe at least 6 in dia. secure the pipe for a work surface and use the draw knife to remove as much of the meat and membrane as possible. Draw knife or other knife must be so dull that you could never cut yourself with it- kinda like a butter knife without serrations.
next, soak the hide in plain water. check daily to see if the hair will pull out with ease. when it does, scrape the hair side and rescrape the flesh side.stretch and tack it to a wall or plywood to dry.
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Post by: bubby on March 19, 2014, 06:43:41 pm: pressure washer to get the meat and membrane off
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Post by: Mohawk13 on March 19, 2014, 11:45:33 pm: Throw some wood ash in the water with the hide...Hair will fall off in a day or so...
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Post by: 4dog on March 22, 2014, 05:15:33 pm: it was an old dried with meat still on it hide...a bit rancid smellin but heres where im at.
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Post by: 4dog on March 22, 2014, 05:16:49 pm: pic
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Post by: Sasquatch on March 25, 2014, 04:38:04 pm: Just chew the meat off.. Everybody likes jerky :D
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Post by: 4dog on March 25, 2014, 08:37:27 pm: nah nathaniel...just ate a box of glass..lol...its finished ..
cut to apply..just waiting for thw time to apply it...maybe tomorrow!!!
Title: Re: backing bow with deerhide? update!!
Post by: 4dog on March 26, 2014, 10:49:10 pm: bow is backed!! thanks for the help..cept you jordan ...lol
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Post by: 4dog on March 26, 2014, 10:50:52 pm: another
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Post by: 4dog on March 26, 2014, 10:52:22 pm: had to wrap edges too..vert check runoff woud have been a prob
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Post by: lebhuntfish on March 26, 2014, 11:27:36 pm: Looks good man, I used dog bone rawhide on mine. Got a hide in the freezer waiting on time to tan it.
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Post by: bowtarist on March 28, 2014, 11:45:51 am: Hide glue? I was just thinking about this topic this morning. dp
Title: Re: backing bow with deerhide? update!!
Post by: 4dog on March 28, 2014, 02:36:57 pm: used an elmers water proof wood glue...it wasnt cheap ...have used it for sinew and it has held up well. i know i know hide glue for sinew....lol
Title: Re: backing bow with deerhide? update!!
Post by: BraveKnight on March 31, 2014, 08:15:29 pm: Quote from: bowtarist on March 28, 2014, 11:45:51 am
Hide glue? I was just thinking about this topic this morning. dp

I read in the Traditional Bowyers build vol 1 that hide glue should be used with rawhide.
Title: Re: backing bow with deerhide? update!!
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 01, 2014, 04:08:36 pm: I have used hide glue and Titebond II and III with rawhide. They all work great! No problem with the polyvinylacetate glues and rawhide. I think what you were referencing from TBB was their recommendation that you use hideglue with sinew.

In my experience, I prefer the tackiness of the TBII/III with the rawhide. I find the hide glue too slippery, makes a tougher job of things.
Title: Re: backing bow with deerhide? update!!
Post by: lostarrow on April 02, 2014, 11:55:51 pm: The trick with the hide glue is using heat and working a bit at a time. Size the bow and hide first. I iron it on and smooth it with a polished brass bar. This will squeegee out the excess and give a good bond. If the iron sizzles when water is dripped on it , it is too hot. Be mindfull not squeeze out all of the glue and starve the joint.
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Post by: 4dog on April 04, 2014, 10:51:31 am: no comments on tiller cause im still wrkn her..but the glue i used ...holding very well.
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Post by: 4dog on April 13, 2014, 04:47:53 pm: all shot in and finished thanks for the help...especially dirty dan!!
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Post by: Jake on April 25, 2014, 10:33:19 am: Its a beauty !

What is the finish on it?

Is that a doe hide? It doesnt appear to have bulked it up at all.
Title: Re: backing bow with deerhide? update!!
Post by: 4dog on April 25, 2014, 10:26:42 pm: thanks jake,, its ebony wood stain and walnut woodstain...finished with satin spray on polyurethane,, the hide is the thinnest section of deerhide.