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Title: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: simson on September 22, 2014, 12:05:36 am
Some months ago a friend asked wether I would like to have a branch of a juniper which he had to cut away as it was broken down by a storm. And of corse I did. He brought a piece, kinda a quarter of a stave with that broken storm violation on one end. The sap was creamy, the heart wood light brown. I laid it in a corner of my shop to let it season. Some weeks ago it came in my mind again and I examined the piece, thought it looks a lot like ERC. But that color and it was grown in Germany … . I made a fresh cut with my hacksaw and saw the purple color – ERC indeed, German ERC. Unbelievable, it grows here.
Here is the “stave”, about 40” total, last 12” not usable (broken end)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020456_zps6b3ba1f5.jpg)


I didn't know what to do with that weird piece so I bandsawed it in slats about ½” thick, kinda quartersawn.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020455_zpsb093544b.jpg)


(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020458_zpsea1c0a8a.jpg)


This is what I got, slats or boards with sap on one half side and heartwood on the other. Beautiful wood with hundreds of pin knots and some larger ones.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020457_zps420e87f7.jpg)


Looking at that slats with that nice colors, I decided to combine it opposing

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020459_zps3580fa93.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020460_zpsf62fcc32.jpg)


I have bought some boo slats, this should became a backing for my two slats, here is the 'splice'. I cut away the sap in the handle area in a rectangular shape.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020462_zps4b3000b9.jpg)


My plan was a diagonal handle, it should look like the heartwood turns over to the other side. Here is the idea marked easily with a 1” wide masking tape

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020463_zpsd77cfda4.jpg)


Some curves for a funky transition …

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020465_zpsd8ba5af9.jpg)


Before cutting out, the back was strengthened with two slats of flooring boo, all glued together with TB 3

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020464_zps9c9dd02f.jpg)


And rasped down for a smooth transition

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020469_zps33034777.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020473_zpsb69c81af.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020474_zps577cc67a.jpg)


two pics to show the idea of the switching over heartwood

P14(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020472_zps9b82f7c9.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020471_zpsbc1c16a4.jpg)


.... more will follow soon  .....
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: Pat B on September 22, 2014, 12:11:04 am
This ought to be good.  8)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: Weylin on September 22, 2014, 12:59:11 am
Can't wait to see this finished. You come up with some crazy ideas, Simon. This will look awesome, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: leehongyi on September 22, 2014, 04:31:09 am
i am afraid that this kind of joint will not survive.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: Del the cat on September 22, 2014, 06:51:35 am
i am afraid that this kind of joint will not survive.
He's strengthened the back and may well glue a riser block onto the belly too, he know what he's doing so it should be fine....
I'm watching with interest... it should be one funky bow :laugh:.
Del
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: Will H on September 22, 2014, 07:29:26 am
Can't wait to see this one Simson! Very creative!!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: Badly Bent on September 22, 2014, 07:54:46 am
Fancy indeed. Cool project Simon, I'll be watching.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 22, 2014, 07:57:57 am
When your good, your good.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: PatM on September 22, 2014, 09:54:06 am
More than likely a hybrid cultivar of Juniper than true ERC but it's basically the same wood.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: gutpile on September 22, 2014, 10:16:06 am
afraid the boo will over power the erc...interesting splice ...awaiting finished product...gut
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: Blackcoyote on September 22, 2014, 02:04:02 pm
Simon you're posts never disappoint....can't wait to see how this one turns out!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC
Post by: simson on September 22, 2014, 02:26:55 pm
Can't wait to see this finished. You come up with some crazy ideas, Simon. This will look awesome, I'm sure.

Weylin I like to do awide variaty of bow designs and esp. like to do experiments. some come out good, some not.
but always lots to learn and much fun to work on

i am afraid that this kind of joint will not survive.
He's strengthened the back and may well glue a riser block onto the belly too, he know what he's doing so it should be fine....
I'm watching with interest... it should be one funky bow :laugh:.
Del

Yeah, what brother Del said! The layer of the ERC slats is only stressed by compression, the tension is on the backing, the boo flooring slats (power lams) will work for stabilisation.

The bow is ready, just needs some finishing work ( couple of oil coats) and about 50 or 60 shots are done  -- still holds fine.

More than likely a hybrid cultivar of Juniper than true ERC but it's basically the same wood.

Yes Pat, for sure  - ERC is not a native (word?) tree in Germany

afraid the boo will over power the erc...interesting splice ...awaiting finished product...gut

Yes, I had the same thoughts. I have trapped the backing heavily and the next 500 shots will show wether it is a chrysal candidate or not. But I'm optimistic , I have a good feel

All: many thanks for your comments and your believe in me  :laugh:
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: simson on September 22, 2014, 02:36:15 pm
Next steps:
(no pics, sorry – all deleted by accident)
The whole thing turned out a bit short with the stiff handle, I tried to lengthen the bow with the backing and additional underlay. Both, the backing and the underlays were steam bent, they should work as stiff levers of a mild static. My thought was very light boo levers to save mass on the outer limbs. The backing was glued on with a mild deflex.

The handle got an extra piece of ERC, glued down in the diagonal position of the handle.

Some tiny horn nocks were added with super glue.

String bridges are made also out of horn. I have small plates, about ⅛” thick, for every lever two of them were heated, bent and glued on with super glue.

The limbs got a 5 edge profile, heavily trapped on the back (45°) and a ridge bellyside. It tapers in the outer limbs into a square profile (before bridge), then into high trapezoid (levers).

The exotic handle position and that soft wood invited me to do some fancy carving on that piece. I tried to balance it out symmetrically, or better opposing.

The arrow pass is made out of brass sheet, curved horizontally and vertically. It took a time to hammer it out matching the bow's curves.

All the work is done with handtools (exc. Bandsaw), flatteneing boo and slats done with a rasp. Yes, I know the glue lines are not the best.

This bow is made out of 15 components:
3 pieces ERC (2x slats, 1x handle glue up)
5 pieces boo (1x backing, 2x powerlam, 2x tip overlay)
6 pieces horn (2x tip overlay, 2x2 lams string bridges)
1 piece of brass sheet (arrow pass)

This bow is very snappy with a good load already at brace. It looks a bit fancy, but was really fun to carve out.

length ntn 60”
mass: 360 grams = 12,7 oz
46#/ 27”

I usually don't name my bows, this one of the few were I did.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020855_zps3e5644d0.jpg)


Looking at her knotty purple wood she remembers me on some stuff when I was young
…................................... so, I couldn't resist she got the name: PURPLE HAZE!

(http://][IMG]http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020842_zpse9a62bae.jpg)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: simson on September 22, 2014, 02:38:09 pm
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020842_zpse9a62bae.jpg)

profile pics ….
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020860_zps07c49aef.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020861_zps4bc05f55.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020864_zps4405b039.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020883_zpsa218c1cb.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020865_zps14f35a04.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020908_zps214c7ed6.jpg)

we didn't capture the exact fulldraw, this is at about 26”, but I think it is o.k.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/_DSC9702_zpsd4db355e.jpg)

the beauty of boo curves

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020859_zps2f1990b6.jpg)

and ERC curves

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020856_zps2c280d9e.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020857_zpsa45f4784.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020893_zpsb650c17a.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020867_zpsa5d4918b.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020869_zps9b790888.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020870_zps174663e9.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020873_zps993aebde.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020875_zpsb1a01931.jpg)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: simson on September 22, 2014, 02:39:03 pm
the switching over heartwood

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020885_zps77cf106e.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020891_zpsd174de85.jpg)

feathering out the boo underlay at the levers

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020879_zpsd2d6e0c7.jpg)

here more visible at the other side
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020872_zps3fb6ef14.jpg)

the string bridge made out of two horn laminates
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020878_zps6815c0be.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020862_zps1ff5d186.jpg)

the levers are very narrow, only 6mm
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020881_zpsaa9a860a.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020876_zps2a36faea.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020853_zpsf2992ade.jpg)

the tapering out of the ERC slat
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020899_zpsd4d397ae.jpg)

very tiny horn overlays
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020898_zpscb60a369.jpg)

ERC color matching string in the groove
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020900_zpse9196916.jpg)

here you see the boo backing and the boo underlay with the power fibers
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1409%20boo%20backed%20erc%20with%20diagonal%20handle/P1020903_zps23ea15e4.jpg)

well, many pics, I know. I apologize if you got tired
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: missilemaster on September 22, 2014, 02:44:45 pm
You are a cray German! :o That thing is something else!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: gutpile on September 22, 2014, 02:45:44 pm
if I didn't see it I wouldn't of believed  it...nice job...hope it holds up....impressive to say the least...gut
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Joec123able on September 22, 2014, 02:55:55 pm
Don't think words exist yet to describe that beauty
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Parnell on September 22, 2014, 03:05:38 pm
That is one of the strangest bows I've ever seen Simson.  Really different and beautiful.  Great job.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 22, 2014, 03:06:38 pm
Your amazing Simon. There are none better, anywhere.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Klondike on September 22, 2014, 03:26:56 pm
Tip to tip that is impressive!!! wow
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: blackhawk on September 22, 2014, 03:37:27 pm
Winner winner chicken dinner!!!!!  8)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Blaflair2 on September 22, 2014, 03:46:36 pm
Holy shiza! U my friend, and sick :embarassed:
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: johnfolchetti on September 22, 2014, 03:50:33 pm
Stunning.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: H Rhodes on September 22, 2014, 04:04:45 pm
Simon, that is absolutely amazing.   Beautiful bow. 
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Stixnstones on September 22, 2014, 05:52:00 pm
speechless, just friggin speechless. unfrigginbelieveable, thats gotta b the sweetest bow i've ever friggin seen, FRIG!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: hochgaertner on September 22, 2014, 05:52:48 pm
Du bist einfach narrisch - Peter aus Wald
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: BOWMAN53 on September 22, 2014, 06:06:42 pm
you know here in cali purple haze means something totally different lol
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: John D on September 22, 2014, 06:21:49 pm
Jaw on floor... outstanding!  Incredible craftsmanship with some beautiful media.  I need another half an hour just to take it in; going back to the pics now :)

Well done!

John D
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: RyanY on September 22, 2014, 06:43:56 pm
That's one of the most beautiful bows I've ever seen!!!! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: DC on September 22, 2014, 06:57:38 pm
You outdid yourself!! Best yet!!!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: hammertime on September 22, 2014, 07:05:44 pm
Took me awhile to soak all that in but thats gotta be one of the coolest bows I've ever seen.Awesome!-Hammertime
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: wizardgoat on September 22, 2014, 07:14:25 pm
Very unique! And of course spot on tiller
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: rps3 on September 22, 2014, 08:42:15 pm
You are concerned about too many pics, and I want more. This bow is something else for sure. Wow.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: JonW on September 22, 2014, 08:45:52 pm
Simon you are truly a special craftsman. That is outstanding.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: ssgtchad on September 22, 2014, 09:02:43 pm
damn mm mom that's one fine piece of art work :o
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Zion on September 22, 2014, 09:07:58 pm
holy crap! That handle's pretty badass. crazy colors too.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: DavidV on September 22, 2014, 09:28:17 pm
Wow! One of the sexiest bows I've seen on here. It's truly one of a kind too.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: lebhuntfish on September 22, 2014, 09:51:06 pm
Wow! I don't know what else to say, but wow!

I probably would have said thank you for the cedar and then cut it into riser blocks. No way would I have come up with that!  Well done, my hats off to you sir! Patrick
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: NeolithicMan on September 22, 2014, 10:38:33 pm
I would give an awful lot to meet you in person, walk through your shop and hold some o your bows while I pick your brain! You sir are a true craftsman, I hope to get close to your level of skill some day. Thank you for posting
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Gaur on September 22, 2014, 11:20:58 pm
cool bow there.  Thanks for showing it to us
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: 21st century archer on September 22, 2014, 11:47:05 pm
That has to be one of the coolest bows I have ever seen. ERC is one of my favorite materials to work with.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: IdahoMatt on September 22, 2014, 11:55:55 pm
Damn,  crazy crazy crazy.  Great job.  Very funky.  I could look at your bows for days, no worries about the pics I could have looked at more  :)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Badly Bent on September 22, 2014, 11:58:26 pm
Insanely cool bow Simon, never seen anything like it and probably never will. The level of craftmanship and well thought out design in your work is astounding. That is some crazy bowyering,
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: autologus on September 22, 2014, 11:59:32 pm
Absolutely the most beautiful bow I have ever seen.

Grady
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Sasquatch on September 23, 2014, 12:11:33 am
That is the coolest bow I've ever seen.  :)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Arrowind on September 23, 2014, 12:36:52 am
AWESOME!!!!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: leehongyi on September 23, 2014, 02:34:45 am
wonderful work!
the riser block gives the safe of the joint.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: GB on September 23, 2014, 02:56:39 am
If I could pull off a bow like that, y'all would have to "excuse me while I kiss the sky..."
Thoroughly amazed!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: sieddy on September 23, 2014, 03:27:12 am
Excuse me while i kiss the sky! :D
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: medicinewheel on September 23, 2014, 04:46:15 am
Fancy indeed!!!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Sockrablur on September 23, 2014, 08:09:17 am
Simi. There could never be to many photos in one of your posts! Thanks for taking the time to post them. Your bows are truly amazing... simple form and function becomes artistic expression. It's so very pleasing to the eyes! Well done sir.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: lesken2011 on September 23, 2014, 09:25:15 am
It's hard to believe you wound up with that piece of art from the piece of wood you started with! Amazing!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Cloudfeather on September 23, 2014, 01:13:45 pm
That thing is obscenely beautiful. Can't get over the character and curves of that handle.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Aaron H on September 23, 2014, 01:25:41 pm
Wow, incredible
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Holten101 on September 23, 2014, 01:54:45 pm
What can I say?...wickedly scary bow:-)

Cheers
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: simson on September 23, 2014, 02:16:32 pm
Wooh, just came back from work. That is what I call response  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks everybody foe that nice compliments! I'm happy of everybody's comment!

This is very nice wood with pretty curves on it.

But to be honest, it wasn't that hard to make. The biggest deal was doing all the planing with the rasp only, I have no power jointer or router.
The limited ressources showed the way to the design choice.
I'm currently working on some character osage statics, no wowsers, but to balance the taves out is much more complicated than this project.

Bowman: purple haze means here the same as in cali, I've said it reminds me on my younger years .....

Neolithic Man: no problem visiting me you just need to come over the pond. Our house is open ....

Greg: I'm still learning from you and other masters here on PP. I know it is endless way to go and that's good!

GB and sieddy: I'm wondering what is the meaning of kissing the sky???


Thank you all
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Del the cat on September 23, 2014, 02:24:02 pm
What took you so long? ::)
Dude that is the prettiest coolest most funky bow I've seen.
Boy is that slick, yet it stays the right side of being over decorated...
Very sculptural
Ace
Del
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Holten101 on September 23, 2014, 02:24:22 pm

GB and sieddy: I'm wondering what is the meaning of kissing the sky???


Purple haze, all in my brain
Lately things they don't seem the same
Actin' funny, but I don't know why
Excuse me while I kiss the sky

Jimi Hendrix
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: GlisGlis on September 23, 2014, 04:13:59 pm
Such a BEAUTY !

You are officially a cause of my Stendhal syndrome **






**Stendhal syndrome, Stendhal's syndrome, hyperkulturemia, or Florence syndrome is a psychosomatic disorder that causes rapid heartbeat, dizziness, fainting, confusion and even hallucinations when an individual is exposed to an experience of great personal significance, particularly viewing art
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: mwosborn on September 23, 2014, 09:21:38 pm
You make some outstanding bows Simon.  This one is no exception - thanks for sharing - love looking at your work!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Will H on September 23, 2014, 09:44:35 pm
Wow!! I don't even know what to say! That is a work of art!
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Post by: Weylin on September 23, 2014, 10:46:56 pm
 :o :o :o that's even cooler than I imagined. Bravo!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: ajbruggink on September 24, 2014, 10:33:35 pm
That's one of the most beautiful bows I have ever seen. That handle is awesome.
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Post by: John D on September 24, 2014, 11:48:39 pm

GB and sieddy: I'm wondering what is the meaning of kissing the sky???


Purple haze, all in my brain
Lately things they don't seem the same
Actin' funny, but I don't know why
Excuse me while I kiss the sky

Jimi Hendrix

You mean it's not "scuse me while I kiss this guy"  ??   :o

My apologies to all... I had to....  >:D
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: okiecountryboy on September 25, 2014, 04:10:50 am
1: to be honest I really didn't see it holding up with that splice.
2: left post....
3: got back to post (curiosity)
4: MY GOODNESS...TOO SWEET FOR WORDS!!!!! 8)
I AM TOTALLY BLOWN AWAY. EXCELANT CRAFTSMANSHIP.

5: Who doesn't know Hendrix music?!?!?

Ron

Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Pappy on September 25, 2014, 08:13:57 am
Beautiful bow,very nice work. :)
  Pappy
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: simson on September 25, 2014, 10:47:38 am

GB and sieddy: I'm wondering what is the meaning of kissing the sky???


Purple haze, all in my brain
Lately things they don't seem the same
Actin' funny, but I don't know why
Excuse me while I kiss the sky

Jimi Hendrix


Ahh, I've got it. Should have known that.
Call it sitting on the brain or just my old age.

Thanks for the lesson, Holten.

All others: thanks a lot for the nice comments.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Carson (CMB) on September 25, 2014, 02:05:50 pm
That is a stunner. That cedar looks absolutely gorgeous on the belly.  Thanks for walking us through your vision.  Very cool seeing it come alive.  I especially like seeing your experience with the hollow limb bows coming through in your carving of the fades.  Spectacular bow!  8)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: rossfactor on September 25, 2014, 03:34:48 pm
WHAT?

When I saw that checked old piece of wood, I was thinking, maybe you'd make a cool shelf or book end or friggin chop sticks or something....

not a stunner of a bow.  But you did.

Wow.

Gabe
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: danny f on September 27, 2014, 06:29:31 am
i always enjoy seeing your bows. this is no exception! your workmanship is outstanding.
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Post by: 3Liniya on September 27, 2014, 11:50:50 am
I have lurked on this site for some time now, eventually signing up as to access the archives. I haven't posted until now because I've had nothing to contribute nor have I had a question that I could not find an answer to by searching. While I have seen creations that have blown me away or inspired me, they have all be old posts that are no longer active. This however, compels me.

Simon, your bow is wicked-sexy. From her slender limbs with flawless over and under lays to the geometrically radical handle design that blends both superior form and function, sensuality and performance.(just realized this is reading Like a BMW advertisement...Bavaria, what can one say?) This bow has the look of a Bad Girl in an evening gown or what the boys would call a "Naughty Hottie"...Indeed a stunning creation.
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Post by: Jesse on September 29, 2014, 03:29:53 pm
Very creative,inspiring, and well executed 8)
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Post by: Peacebow_Coos on September 29, 2014, 10:23:16 pm
WOw I continue to be amazed by your experiments Simson, top notch bow
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Deerslayer on October 14, 2014, 06:23:57 am
Hi Simon,
This has got to be one of the most unique bows I've seen and extremely well done.
Cheers, Deerslayer.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: simson on October 14, 2014, 02:15:42 pm
Thanks again guys for that very nice compliments  :)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: stickbender on October 14, 2014, 09:28:52 pm

     Wow!  You must have been experienced with purple haze to come up with these designs, and then pull the magic out of the hat to make it all work, and look flawless.  I am always amazed at your work, and the way you think out of the box.  Outstanding, and absolutely beautiful!!  Das iss nicht goot!  Das iss Vundabar!!  You are an amazing mechanical Artist!

                                  Wayne
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Post by: albert49 on October 15, 2014, 04:53:38 am
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well, many pics, I know. I apologize if you got tired

Hi Simon. I will be never tired of your bows and pics. The more the better. You are great teacher and inspiration. Albert
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: dwardo on October 15, 2014, 05:08:49 am
I rekon if I filled a bag with the wood chippings and sawdust from under my bench you would still be able to make a beautiful bow from it.

Excellent as always.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Bowman on October 15, 2014, 06:00:48 pm
Fantastic bow. One of the most stunning bows i've ever seen. Top of the line. :D
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Post by: Forest_Farmer on October 15, 2014, 10:34:39 pm
Beautiful , imaginative and a work of art!  There is no doubt that after posting this build it will inspire others to push limits of what can be done with wood, skill and imagination.

Well done sir!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: burn em up chuck on October 19, 2014, 10:27:02 am
     simply WOW

           chuck
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: BigWapiti on October 21, 2014, 06:03:54 pm
Oh my... I am so not worthy of even seeing this...  I feel now but only an inept carver of wood. 

I almost felt a little dirty clicking through the pictures. :)   

wow.

Beautiful.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Jax666 on October 23, 2014, 07:45:33 am
I cannot see the pictures
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: Paul Baumgartner on October 26, 2014, 08:31:04 pm
All the pictures are gone!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: dueb on October 26, 2014, 09:01:14 pm
Yeah, pics are gone. They got too much attention so photobucket wants money. Simson (and everyone else) should try uploading at www.imgur.com , never had any problems there. It's a shame too cause I just started looking at all his stuff and I was learning a ton!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: simson on October 27, 2014, 10:45:15 am
Sorry folks, I've noticed the pics in my posts are gone again.
Photobucket says I've hit my bandwidth limits and I have to pay money. No problem with the few bucks, but couldn't manage it.
I'm no IT prof. If I understood it right the pics should reappear at November 4. or 5. So you have to be patient, really sorry for that.

Any tips for me, or other hosting sites to try?
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Post by: DC on October 27, 2014, 01:14:03 pm
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows7/resize-a-picture-using-paint

This shows you how to re-size using Microsoft Paint. You should use 640 pixels as your largest dimension.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (warning pic heavy)
Post by: dueb on October 29, 2014, 10:32:49 pm
Sorry folks, I've noticed the pics in my posts are gone again.
Photobucket says I've hit my bandwidth limits and I have to pay money. No problem with the few bucks, but couldn't manage it.
I'm no IT prof. If I understood it right the pics should reappear at November 4. or 5. So you have to be patient, really sorry for that.

Any tips for me, or other hosting sites to try?

I like to use www.imgur.com, you won't run into any of these problem there.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: Lorenzo on January 03, 2015, 11:09:06 pm
Masterful and intricate piecing and setting of the elaboration's parts, excellent choice and alternation of lively colours, incredible edgy asymmetrical carving of the handle, minutious care for the details and the finish... one of the best I've seen so far

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Post by: burchett.donald on January 03, 2015, 11:40:04 pm
Brilliant and ingenious build...Absolutely beautiful :o
                                                                                  Don
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: Sidewinder on January 04, 2015, 01:12:06 am
Simon. I'm am so glad someone brought this back to the front page as I missed it the first time around. I don't know what to say other than I am stunned. How you came up this idea is beyond me but Bravo my friend Bravo. The ERC is stunning isn't it. You have just set the bar waaaaay up there. Thanks for contributing. We all benefit greatly from seeing this type of work.  Danny
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: Academonicon on March 10, 2015, 10:37:10 am
Mr. Simson, no joke, this is the coolest looking bow I've ever seen.  You're inhuman.

Sincerely,

-Nick
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: TolkienFan on July 06, 2015, 07:46:19 am
Thats the sickest bow I have ever seen! Seriously...wow...
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: make-n-break on July 06, 2015, 09:44:30 am
I missed this one the first time around too. Amazing. My favorite ever!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: HighEagle on July 06, 2015, 07:10:32 pm
 I missed this post first go around to.. Fancy yes, stylish swanky.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: joachimM on July 07, 2015, 06:44:23 am
Wow, that is one stunning bow...  Amazing design, real eye-candy.


As for the species: eastern red cedar, aka ERC, is Juniperus virginiana. Pretty common as an ornamental conifer in Europe (there are two in my parent's garden). 
A rather common species in N-Europe and Canada is Juniper communis, the common juniper, whose berries are still used to flavor gin. This species doesn't have red heartwood, so it seems you do have ERC.
All true Junipers (Juniperus species) seem to be excellent in compression and make good (backed) bows. Maybe your next Juniper could be a native one. 
 
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: gifford on July 07, 2015, 10:13:05 am
I missed it the first time around as well; Stunning design and flawless execution. Kudos and a tip of the old ball cap to your vision and ability with a very challenging species of wood.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: sleek on July 07, 2015, 12:55:09 pm
I went searching for this bow not long ago and couldnt find it. Thanks for bringing it back to the top.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: simson on July 07, 2015, 03:26:07 pm
Who the hell brought this old post back again?  ;) ;) ;) ;)

Thanks again folks, of course I appriciate all your comments.

Wow, that is one stunning bow...  Amazing design, real eye-candy.


As for the species: eastern red cedar, aka ERC, is Juniperus virginiana. Pretty common as an ornamental conifer in Europe (there are two in my parent's garden). 
A rather common species in N-Europe and Canada is Juniper communis, the common juniper, whose berries are still used to flavor gin. This species doesn't have red heartwood, so it seems you do have ERC.
All true Junipers (Juniperus species) seem to be excellent in compression and make good (backed) bows. Maybe your next Juniper could be a native one. 
 

Joachim where are you located?
Oh, and I've worked already with Juniperus, also currently one on the bench (selfbow).
Here are some:
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,34915.msg460154.html#msg460154
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,40521.0.html
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,40525.0.html
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,48466.0.html
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: joachimM on July 07, 2015, 05:42:07 pm
Yeah those are some funky bows you made with juniper, pushing the boundaries of what we (or at least I) thought was possible.
I'm in Belgium just 50 km east from Brussels.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: Aries on July 08, 2015, 08:24:56 am
This is one of the most amazing bows I have seen. Incredible attention to detail. Great job sir.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on July 09, 2015, 08:58:29 am
That is one slick bow!!! Great job
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: smoke on July 10, 2015, 09:16:42 am
Best curves I've seen since Kate Upton! ;)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: GB on August 15, 2015, 01:34:27 pm
I went back to this thread after reading the current thread on splicing levers.  My jaw dropped again.  Has to be the most beautiful, awe inspiring bow I've ever seen.
It's like hearing Mozart (or Jimi Hendrix) for the first time. :)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: nakedfeet on August 16, 2015, 01:02:45 am
Holy cow, that thing is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: mullet on August 16, 2015, 02:01:34 pm
Wow Simon! Absolutely stunning, as usual.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: dbb on August 16, 2015, 02:20:53 pm
Stunningly sexy bow! I always look forward to your bows and this one is off the chart!
amazing.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: simson on August 18, 2015, 04:26:09 pm
Thanks again Gentlemen for the nice compliments, I really appreciate it
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: killir duck on August 18, 2015, 08:09:10 pm
Wow, honestly I didn't thing that was gonna work, besides the bamboo overpowering the erc I figured that the heartwood and sapwood would bend differently enough to cause some major twisting issues. But you made er work! Looks awesome, how does it shoot? I imagine it's pretty snappy!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: sleek on December 09, 2015, 05:17:22 pm
What is the limb width and how is this bow holding up?
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: BowEd on December 09, 2015, 05:53:25 pm
WOW!!!!Can't believe I did'nt see this.What a person can do with the least amount of material is unreal if he uses his imagination.If that does'nt bring a bowyer out of his chair nothing does.Fantastic idea and design.Congradulations on your bow Simson!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on December 11, 2015, 06:26:54 am
Spectacular !!!!...nuff said.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: Will B on December 11, 2015, 12:12:20 pm
Stunning Bow!  Unbelievable craftsmanship. 
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: TolkienFan on November 05, 2018, 08:01:19 pm
I wasn’t hoping to look at this bow again but all the photos are down. Any chance you can repost? I would really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: simk on November 06, 2018, 07:19:22 am
here you still can admire the beauty

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Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: simson on November 06, 2018, 10:03:53 am
Here is a working link to my site:


http://primitive-bows.com/fancy-boo-backed-erc-4627-no-51/


I'm sorry, that bad ass photo bucket has crashed all the pics of my earlier bows. But you can see them on my site (if you like).
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: TolkienFan on November 06, 2018, 05:58:41 pm
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: upstatenybowyer on November 06, 2018, 06:33:12 pm
That's one of my favorite bows ever posted on this site.  8)
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: bradsmith2010 on November 07, 2018, 11:43:53 am
very very beautiful,, thanks for sharing that one,,
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: Sidewinder on November 14, 2018, 06:56:32 pm
Im excited to see it but the pictures are gone. HMMMM
Title: Re: Fancy boo backed ERC (No. 51)
Post by: simson on November 15, 2018, 09:25:31 am
Here is a working link to my site:


http://primitive-bows.com/fancy-boo-backed-erc-4627-no-51/


I'm sorry, that bad ass photo bucket has crashed all the pics of my earlier bows. But you can see them on my site (if you like).


Don't want to push that old thread to the top again and again ...
you guys can see all my posted bows on my site, just click on the globe at the left side under my user name!