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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: AndiE on February 25, 2015, 02:58:46 pm

Title: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: AndiE on February 25, 2015, 02:58:46 pm

Hi

I have a möllegabet of elm and I don`t know if the tiller is ok or horror.  ;)
What do you guys think?
The right limb is the upper.

Kind regards
Andi

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: Springbuck on February 25, 2015, 03:07:48 pm

  Pretty good, actually.  The curve of the bottom limb is perfect, to my eye. 

The upper limb has more bend close to the handle, and less close to the lever.  Try to get that curving out right to the transition from bending limb to stiff limb.

Once you do this, the top limb will be weaker.  If it isn't too much, you might call that positive tiller, or slightly weaken the lower limb to balance them.

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: huisme on February 25, 2015, 03:20:43 pm

+1 Springbuck

Something odd though, is the bottom limb longer?

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: AndiE on February 25, 2015, 03:23:59 pm

Hi

Yes the bottom limb is about 1-2" longer.

Kind regards
Andi

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: huisme on February 25, 2015, 03:28:28 pm

huh. Any particular reason why? I've been a fan of longer upper limbs, from slightly to excessively, but haven't seen any long on the bottom that I remember.

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 25, 2015, 04:32:56 pm

The fade on the left limb needs to move more.

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: AndiE on February 25, 2015, 04:35:20 pm

Hi

Do you think it would be better if I take the bow at the middle?

Kind regards
Andi

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 25, 2015, 04:38:49 pm

Id suggest resting the handle in the same place your hand will be. That is what matters most.

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: Springbuck on February 25, 2015, 04:42:14 pm

 +1 on Pearl Drums last post.

  I wondered about the lower limb being longer, but I assumed without looking closer that they were same length and what I was seeing was due to the bow's position in the cradle.

  I also am curious why you made the bottom limb longer.  I'm not criticizing, but I would like to hear the reasoning, or see the bow you ae copying.

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: AndiE on February 25, 2015, 05:37:31 pm

Hi

The limbs are same length if I put the hand (pressure point) in the Middle of the grip.
But which tiller does look better to you?

Kind regards
Andi

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: Blaflair2 on February 25, 2015, 05:57:36 pm

I think if ya take the first pic and move the string on the left making ur bottom top. Then see what it looks like

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: blackhawk on February 25, 2015, 06:01:16 pm

Put it in your hand,nock an arrow,and take a full draw pic with you drawing it...then post it here.

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: bubby on February 25, 2015, 06:49:11 pm

Put it in your hand,nock an arrow,and take a full draw pic with you drawing it...then post it here.



Bingo!!!! I don't use a tree past 20"

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: huisme on February 25, 2015, 08:17:01 pm

Neither do I, but that's partially because I don't have one ::)

A draw shot would help us tell for sure; you want to tiller the bow the way it'll be shot.

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: AndiE on March 16, 2015, 02:39:34 pm

Hi

After 3 weeks sickness I shot some photos of the tiller at draw.
What do you think about it?

Kind regards
Andi

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: PatM on March 16, 2015, 02:50:25 pm

I think you're still sick  judging by your look.

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: AndiE on March 26, 2015, 05:53:32 pm

Hi

I turned the bow. It shoots better but the tiller looked better the other way.
I love the look of the möllegabet but I hate to tiller it.  :o

Kind regards
      Andi

Title: Re: Elm möllegabet tiller questions
Post by: mikekeswick on March 27, 2015, 03:53:33 am

It needs to bend some more coming out of the fades.
Decide which limb is the upper and leave it like that! If you keep on turning it over and drawing it the limbs are getting strained differently and you will get more set than is necessary.