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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: ceolith on March 02, 2015, 02:31:10 pm

Title: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: ceolith on March 02, 2015, 02:31:10 pm
...a little bit unorthodox name for a bow, but she IS!

(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/s8cr42kw.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/s8cr42kw_jpg.htm)

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/o6gxrsbh.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/o6gxrsbh_jpg.htm)

(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/7d43fa5d.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/7d43fa5d_jpg.htm)

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/ttb9ft5e.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/ttb9ft5e_jpg.htm)

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/u3w4dxuz.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/u3w4dxuz_jpg.htm)

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/5qu46jzv.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/5qu46jzv_jpg.htm)

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/c2gnqj46.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/c2gnqj46_jpg.htm)

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/nxzzrqlp.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/nxzzrqlp_jpg.htm)


...i hope, you like it. :)
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: adb on March 02, 2015, 02:51:04 pm
Nice! Is it the same bow in the full draw picture? Cuz it looks like the bow at full draw has white nocks?
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: ceolith on March 02, 2015, 02:54:35 pm
Yes sure, the fulldraw-picture is with unpolished hornnocks.  ;)
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: WillS on March 02, 2015, 02:55:23 pm
Every time dude.  Every bow you post is stunning.

I think Ian's gonna be on TV with one of your bows soon ;)
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: adb on March 02, 2015, 03:03:30 pm
Yes sure, the fulldraw-picture is with unpolished hornnocks.  ;)

Okay. Gotcha... fair enough. Very nice yew selfbow! The tiller is friggin' spot on, and it has taken no set. Well done!
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: ajbruggink on March 02, 2015, 08:29:34 pm
Yes sure, the fulldraw-picture is with unpolished hornnocks.  ;)

Okay. Gotcha... fair enough. Very nice yew selfbow! The tiller is friggin' spot on, and it has taken no set. Well done!
+1
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Peacebow_Coos on March 02, 2015, 11:43:04 pm
+1 +1 nice work man another stunner for sure
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Marc St Louis on March 04, 2015, 11:19:14 am
Very nice bow and the tiller is excellent.  It does look like it has taken a bit of set around mid limb top and bottom with the center as being fairly straight.  Did the bow start off straight or with uniform reflex?
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: ceolith on March 04, 2015, 02:14:10 pm
Ah ok, i understand. Here you can see the original/unbended/raw Stave:

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150304/temp/8hxgboz5.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3916/8hxgboz5_jpg.htm)

So you can compare the raw stave with the unstrung bow.

(http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150302/temp/c2gnqj46.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3914/c2gnqj46_jpg.htm)

But the pictures are reversed. The lower limb is in picture no.1 on the right side, on the unstrung bow on the left.
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: WillS on March 04, 2015, 02:25:34 pm
What a beautiful stave! Jealous...!
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Marc St Louis on March 04, 2015, 03:17:54 pm
Very nice.  Shows practically uniform set.  Well done
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Del the cat on March 05, 2015, 03:35:34 am
Very nice bow, don't see many staves that clean.
Bigger pics would be good.
Del
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: PatM on March 05, 2015, 09:19:04 am
Very nice bow, don't see many staves that clean.
Bigger pics would be good.
Del

 Click on the pics.
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Del the cat on March 05, 2015, 09:40:45 am
Very nice bow, don't see many staves that clean.
Bigger pics would be good.
Del

 Click on the pics.
Yes I already did, and got a load of annoying pop ups >:(
Del (grumpy mode) ;)
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: ceolith on March 05, 2015, 12:44:30 pm
yes, but the attachement option is really minimalist.  ???

Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: ceolith on March 05, 2015, 12:45:49 pm
...and again:

Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Del the cat on March 06, 2015, 03:42:31 am
Cheers, beautiful clean stave (drools on keyboard)
(I can send you some knots if you want to add some character  ::) ;))
Del
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Heffalump on March 06, 2015, 05:25:20 am
Hi Michael, that's an absolutely lovely looking bow!   ;)

Tell me is this made from a dense Italian, or Swiss yew?

Bye the bye; I notice so much variation in the actual physical weight of the yew bows that I have bought (as opposed to the draw-weight)....some feel as light as pine and others feel like great hunks of mahogany. Its a personal thing for sure, but my preference, certainly in a warbow, is to have a good heavy bow, both in weight and draw weight......it just feels "right" to me!

John T.

p.s. I'll be in touch very soon on another bow if you keep posting up lovely pictures like this.....(absolutely dribbling here)!  :P :P :P  LoL
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Del the cat on March 06, 2015, 06:38:04 am
Yo Heffalump,
If you look at the rule alongside the pics, you will see the rings at approximately 1mm spacing in the heart wood. This would be about 25 to the inch which isn't particularly dense.
There are sections of sapwood where they are much tighter... maybe 2 rings per mm.
I still think the High altitude Chinese is hard to beat. Cut from above 10' if possible >:D ;)
Del
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: ceolith on March 06, 2015, 03:00:19 pm
@Heffalump

To have a quickly bow, you need drawweight with less physical weight. Less physical weight in dependent on drawweight ---> more effectiveness.  ;)

There are 20rings in the sapwood, so you can see that the yew transform the sap- to corewood after 20 years. That's a hint to have a swisse/italian or austrian yew from the alps. But in this case, it's a really rare german yew from the german blackforest.

@Del

After building some yewbows (...nearly 500...) i can say, that the ringcount is not really a hint for superb yew-wood. You can have 25rpi with enormous power and +85rpi like a garden hose.

You have to know, on which ground the tree is grown...  ;)
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Del the cat on March 06, 2015, 06:12:27 pm

@Del

After building some yewbows (...nearly 500...) i can say, that the ringcount is not really a hint for superb yew-wood. You can have 25rpi with enormous power and +85rpi like a garden hose.

You have to know, on which ground the tree is grown...  ;)
Yes, I agree, that's what I was implying...
There are just some people in the UK who insist High Altitude Italian Yew is best and I've been arguing against that for years.
The "High altitude Chinese Yew" is my joke...I cut a bit that was growing behind a Chinese restaurant and I had to climb up about 10 feet onto a flat roof to get it :laugh: It made a nice 130# bow.
Del
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: yew hunter on March 06, 2015, 11:50:00 pm
Is it possible to know if a yew stave is going to make a garden hose, or a good bow if you disregard the rpi and dont know the ground it was grown in? Are there any other signs?
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: Del the cat on March 07, 2015, 02:38:25 am
Is it possible to know if a yew stave is going to make a garden hose, or a good bow if you disregard the rpi and dont know the ground it was grown in? Are there any other signs?
No and no.
Colour, rpi,density, the ground it was grown in, the phase of the moon, the colour of your underpants etc are IMO not reliable indicators.
Del
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: ceolith on March 07, 2015, 04:33:08 am
I would say: yes and no

You can smell (no joke) if the yew was growing on sour or alkaline ground. Alkaline give you the chance for a hard, fast and tough wood. Most with less physical weight.
The sour one is softer, more flexible and clearly less drawweight with the same bow-dimensions.

The other thing is the gender from the yew...

To have a chance for a outstanding yew you should keep a eye on:

Fakt:

- alkaline (smells like sand if you rasp or saw them, not clearly sour)
- female (red berries)
- a ringcount over 25rpi
- more salmon corewood then brownish
- straight

If you do that, then the chance to pick a real good stave will increase enormous.  8)


The rest is hokus-pokus and you have to be a skilled bowyer.  ;)
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: yew hunter on March 07, 2015, 08:55:43 am
Thanks. I have noted alot of difference in yew from tree to tree, I will now be taking note of the smell.
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: DC on March 07, 2015, 01:21:54 pm
Yew Hunter   You're going to have a tough time finding alkaline soils around here :D :D
Title: Re: Blacksmith's *Stunning* 76" Yew Warbow 140#@32"
Post by: crooketarrow on March 12, 2015, 11:00:29 am
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