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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on May 15, 2015, 05:14:45 pm

Title: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: simson on May 15, 2015, 05:14:45 pm
This is barberry, lat. berberis.
A little shrub or bush where seldom a stave can found from. If anyone is here with experience with that wood - I would like to here more.
I have known of the beauty color of that wood.
So you could imagine my smile when this stave was generously donated to me by my good friend Erwin from Austria. Thanks for that really rare wood. It was a stick of 1¼” diameter in the middle. It had some imperfections: One limb with reflex o. k., the other with extreme bend; one limb twisted; one limb with sideway bend of about 5”; really deep drying cracks; one limb began to rot (fungus).

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%201%20von%2022_zpsskdctpr9.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%202%20von%2022_zpshijjkqyj.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%203%20von%2022_zpsc0k6g1i6.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%204%20von%2022_zps8katllis.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%205%20von%2022_zpsdlnlhand.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%206%20von%2022_zpsax7gah6c.jpg)


The color of this wood inside is incredible  - it is a bright green, hard to get pics that shows the beauty. On the back is a deep green you can see some reddish stripes in one limb in the other the fungus have left the grey or black flecks.

This is what I did with that stave:

I did several steaming  and heating seasons with that wood, but it seems it always wanted to return in its original shape. Don't got it 100% where I wanted, so the lines doesn't look that perfect on that bow.

Front
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%207%20von%2022_zpswgg273fs.jpg)

side with a good amount of reflex
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%208%20von%2022_zpsaztzpo3j.jpg)

braced with the kink at arrow pass
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%209%20von%2022_zpskt52owu9.jpg)


(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2010%20von%2022_zps06owiptc.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2011%20von%2022_zpsircbodvn.jpg)

The stave was cut in an angle, I let it be like it was and did a single kerfe nock on the upper and a 'normal' double kerfe on the lower.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2012%20von%2022_zpslhrtqr7w.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2013%20von%2022_zpslc6mntc9.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2014%20von%2022_zpshquedyrf.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2015%20von%2022_zpszkeiwxj7.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2021%20von%2022_zpsmjoyhdy3.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2022%20von%2022_zpsmwxblxih.jpg)


Nothing is added to that bow, except a burned mark for arrow position and the string.
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2018%20von%2022_zpsocip14ql.jpg)

reflex of unbraced bow
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2019%20von%2022_zpsczgxibux.jpg)

knotty back, upper limb in foreground
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2020%20von%2022_zpsiy7mesrn.jpg)

No color, no dye on that stick.
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2017%20von%2022_zpshvmrywko.jpg)

A crack filled with super glue, not a drying crack but windcheck or torsion
(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1505%20barberry/berberis%20from%20Erwin%20-%2016%20von%2022_zpsbwxjjzff.jpg)

 The diameter was small and I wanted to go for max. width. The high crown would cause a stiff stick, I decided to go for a gentle kinda HLD (hollowed limb) to use the whole width. And it worked great. Holds a reflex of 4”.

The wood is dense, not far away from osage, but more homogenous – not that great difference in early wood and late wood. Very springy, set is less than ½”. I count it high as bow wood, to bad it is that rare.

58” ntn, pulls in mid forty at 26" - pretty tough for that little stick ...
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: le0n on May 15, 2015, 05:39:52 pm
that is a beauty.

excellent work.
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 15, 2015, 05:45:14 pm
Your work is amazing....... just amazing.
DBar
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: half eye on May 15, 2015, 05:57:23 pm
That sir is this old mans "cup of tea" very nice. You managed to preserve the "early bow" look and feel with excellent performance. If ya lived up here I would get you and that bow out amongst the whitetail deer sir !!!!!

exceptional bow Simon
rich
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: JonW on May 15, 2015, 06:18:40 pm
Incredible work Simon. The simplicity of that bow in no way shows the work I know it took to get it there.

Jon
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Will H on May 15, 2015, 06:21:03 pm
Wow! That is a simply beautiful bow right there! I love your work Simson!
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: smoke on May 15, 2015, 06:27:42 pm
You are a magician of woodworking Simon!
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2015, 07:51:48 pm
Great looking bow.  It reminds me of some of the small diameter ocean spray bows.
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: PeteC on May 15, 2015, 07:55:33 pm
That's a really cool bow.I like it. Great work . God Bless
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Aaron H on May 15, 2015, 07:56:34 pm
Sweet bow Simon.  I love how understated it is, it's very primitive and very well made.  Excellent work
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: DC on May 15, 2015, 08:00:21 pm
Nice bow! The biggest Barberry I've seen was just big enough to carve a chess piece. It has a nice bright color. Do you know how it ages.
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: blackhawk on May 15, 2015, 08:41:22 pm
Nice fishtail nock!!! Cool bow :)
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: RyanR on May 15, 2015, 08:54:56 pm
That's a nice looking bow. Nice work.
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: wizardgoat on May 15, 2015, 09:26:08 pm
Wow very cool bow. That wood sounds amazing, reminds me of ocean spray as well, except prettier
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Badly Bent on May 16, 2015, 02:36:08 am
Nice!  You got a nice bow out of that rugged looking stick of a stave Simon. Great bend on the full draw, you sure know how to tame 'em.
To me the back, belly grain and wild character of that wood looks like the buckthorn growing around here only with different coloring. 
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: simson on May 16, 2015, 04:25:03 am
That sir is this old mans "cup of tea" very nice. You managed to preserve the "early bow" look and feel with excellent performance. If ya lived up here I would get you and that bow out amongst the whitetail deer sir !!!!!

exceptional bow Simon
rich

Thanks Rich, one day I will be there and knocking on your door - bow and arrows in my hands ;)


Incredible work Simon. The simplicity of that bow in no way shows the work I know it took to get it there.

Jon

Yes Jon, you're right it took some time and effort to get that babe coming along

Nice bow! The biggest Barberry I've seen was just big enough to carve a chess piece. It has a nice bright color. Do you know how it ages.

That stick wasn't that big, as said is was only 1¼” diameter - but hard to find even such a stick like this. I have no idea how it ages, but I have reduced the stave because of the drying checks (didn't want to get them through the complete stave). This was a few month ago and I noticed no remarkable changing in color.

Nice!  You got a nice bow out of that rugged looking stick of a stave Simon. Great bend on the full draw, you sure know how to tame 'em.
To me the back, belly grain and wild character of that wood looks like the buckthorn growing around here only with different coloring. 

I know what you mean, Greg. I still have your knotty Carla in mind.



Thanks all, I appriciate all your comments.
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: IdahoMatt on May 16, 2015, 04:44:58 pm
Great work Simon. How's it shoot.
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Drewster on May 16, 2015, 05:38:00 pm
Your artistry with wood continues to delight me Simon.  I swear, I believe you could tiller a wooden match stick :-)
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: arachnid on May 16, 2015, 05:56:19 pm
Man, talk about a stick and a string....... just amazing!
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: mikekeswick on May 17, 2015, 03:00:32 am
Top notch. :)
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Dvshunter on May 17, 2015, 10:50:53 am
Nice!  You got a nice bow out of that rugged looking stick of a stave Simon. Great bend on the full draw, you sure know how to tame 'em.
To me the back, belly grain and wild character of that wood looks like the buckthorn growing around here only with different coloring.



I was thinking the the same the same thing greg.

Fantastic job on thst one again.
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Bullitt on May 17, 2015, 03:35:57 pm
Fine job!
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Hans H on May 17, 2015, 04:17:30 pm
beautiful craftmanship
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: Arrowind on May 17, 2015, 05:02:08 pm
Well done!
Title: Re: Barberry r/d HLD (No. 64)
Post by: burchett.donald on May 17, 2015, 08:39:16 pm
Simson,
             Awesome sapling bow! Love the nocks 8) Bend looks perfect at usual 8)
                                                                                                                                   Don