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Main Discussion Area => HowTo's and Build-a-longs => Topic started by: PK on February 09, 2008, 05:03:56 am

Title: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 09, 2008, 05:03:56 am: Some asked me to do a build along, I'll Keep it simple with photos, here we go.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 09, 2008, 05:06:33 am: continuing with the chopping the limbs to a point, then cutting with a saw and Slick to remove belly material.
Tapering the non bending upper limb to the top mid limb.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 09, 2008, 05:16:22 am: Draw knife to level the non bending upper limb. More to come as soon as the energy returns, whew!

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: Justin Snyder on February 09, 2008, 11:41:34 am: Dang PK, you know how to use those hand tools. You must have a lot of free time with all the projects you keep starting. Justin
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 09, 2008, 07:21:48 pm: Quote from: Justin Snyder on February 09, 2008, 11:41:34 am
Dang PK, you know how to use those hand tools. You must have a lot of free time with all the projects you keep starting. Justin
change that
I do a lot donation work with my creations so it is to be said I have time to give. Yes I always have been good with tools power and old school, I prefer the old tools because if the power goes out I can be creative by candle light ;D
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: adb on February 09, 2008, 08:31:28 pm: Hey, PK
Good lookin' start. What kind of wood is it?
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 09, 2008, 08:46:10 pm: Quote from: adb3112 on February 09, 2008, 08:31:28 pm
Hey, PK
Good lookin' start. What kind of wood is it?
Hard Maple from Michigan,thanks for the compliment.
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 10, 2008, 12:50:02 am: and Now time to round the edges and start tillering then work on the handle. There is a slope on one limb tip because of the natural back I don't see that causing any trouble,I Hope. Not sure if Sinew should be added to the back ,will see after tillering.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: adb on February 10, 2008, 02:19:48 am: Yup, startin' to look like a Holmie!! Carry on.
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 10, 2008, 05:42:02 am: Quote from: adb3112 on February 10, 2008, 02:19:48 am
Yup, startin' to look like a Holmie!! Carry on.
:)Not as hard as I thought it would be exept the curviture of the back throws me off a bit.
ya think I may have took to much off the non benders?
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: adb on February 10, 2008, 01:00:47 pm: Nope, I think you're doing fine.
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 10, 2008, 03:47:14 pm: yeahoo! ;D
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: Otoe Bow on February 11, 2008, 07:01:27 pm: Very nice. Is that a machete you're using on the rough out? I've seen guys rough out a duck decoy with a hatchet and it amazes me they can do so without turning the thing into splinters.

Otoe
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 11, 2008, 07:54:43 pm: yep a machete it is I don't chop to hard or the tendins start to ache
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: DanaM on February 11, 2008, 09:21:38 pm: If I used a machete my Indian name would probably be Dana Seven Fingers ;D
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: Wulamoc on February 11, 2008, 09:31:21 pm: lookin' good!!!
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 12, 2008, 07:14:21 am: Supremo- Made in the USA :)Its kinda short but that makes it easier to manage.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 14, 2008, 04:31:26 am: 50#@18"not braced yet.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: adb on February 14, 2008, 01:29:09 pm: Hey, PK
Looking good. Take off some more on the inner limbs, until you're about 35-40# @ 20" with the long string, and then brace it. The quicker you get it to brace (low brace!!), the better.
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 14, 2008, 02:01:49 pm: Okeedokee :)
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 14, 2008, 02:15:09 pm: I didn't think I would have a question on my own build along but, is there an advantage to have a String center off center to the side that I will be shooting from,seems my stave had more moisture in it untill after loosing wood now its off center about a 1/4 inch.The bend is in the middle of the bow in the hande,the handle is 1" wideth.PK
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: adb on February 14, 2008, 03:52:30 pm: 1/4" off center? I wouldn't worry about it, especially now. You can always tweak the nocks at the end, to line up the string.
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 14, 2008, 04:08:54 pm: And then I noticed a big twist in the limb, Glad I have a doorway and a strong Towel holder.I think I better let this set aside for a while and see whats happenin with the moisture content.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: DanaM on February 14, 2008, 04:17:02 pm: PK I hate to say I told ya but didn't I mention to let it dry some more ;) 8)
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 14, 2008, 05:26:00 pm: Dana (Santa)You sure did. I put it in a temp controlled closet and kept weighing it every day for 2 weeks or more, seemed to be The same but evidently not ,All is good, I am pretty good at getting wood to do what I want. Know is to see if the wood with Rebels. :)
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 14, 2008, 07:31:29 pm: 40/50#@20" got the twist out.PK

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: DanaM on February 14, 2008, 09:37:34 pm: Looking good Phil
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: cowboy on February 14, 2008, 10:11:04 pm: Very interesting :). Man that's looking good, and going qiuck..
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 15, 2008, 03:58:09 am: 50@26" (Corrected typo)I have to admit I just had a panic attack from the excitement,A few more adjustments to the pins so I can use a stringer.Little handle work,The owl feather a coat of shelac then Spay it with spar Varnish,Hope its Warmer this weekend. I noticed that every Holmgaard is different. :) The Cam shot is getting more of the belly than direct side.
Thanks for the compliments,Holmgaards are definitely a challenge.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: DanaM on February 15, 2008, 10:21:46 am: PK how about a side profile unbraced pic?
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 15, 2008, 03:23:05 pm: unbraced,Still workin on the tips,Narrowing.PK

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 16, 2008, 03:52:06 pm: Test shots with new with Flemish twist 7" From back, String twisted a bit more for stretching Almost final tiller? Looks a bit weaker on the right side upper limb I usually leave it that way on any other bows but a Holmgaard not sure.
Range at 10 yards
Almost done ,be patient ;D

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: adb on February 16, 2008, 04:49:41 pm: Hey, PK
Looks like a Holmie to me!! I tiller the limbs on a Holmegaard to be even.
If I was you, I would lighten your outer limbs a bit, especially out towards the nocks. Heavy tips rob cast, and make for more hand shock. Otherwise, it looks terrific.
You're absolutely doing the right thing with your tillering, by ignoring the outer non-bending limbs, and just looking at the inner limbs. Good job! Holmegaard's are awesome, yes?
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: Justin Snyder on February 16, 2008, 08:29:24 pm: PK the tiller looks good. It has nice clean lines. I think you could eliminate some mass from the non bending limbs. I would taper the width of the non bending portion in just a couple of inches, then run parallel the rest of the way. It is twice as thick as the inner limb so it is 8 times as strong. Don't narrow so much you loose stability, but narrow more. Justin

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 16, 2008, 11:11:19 pm: Gotya, Thanks Buddies. :)
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 17, 2008, 11:31:52 pm: More progress, Just finishing with spar urathane then its Done.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 17, 2008, 11:41:48 pm: last shot before Finishing.

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: DanaM on February 18, 2008, 10:30:16 am: Looks good PK, why don't you post the finished bow in the "BOWS" section.
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: Justin Snyder on February 18, 2008, 10:56:40 am: Yes, looks good. Make a new post in the bows section. It helps everyone (especially Old Bow) find the completed bow since everyone don't keep up with build alongs. Justin
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: cowboy on February 18, 2008, 04:32:46 pm: Looks great PK, those holmies are some funky lookin bows :).
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: medicinewheel on February 18, 2008, 05:39:57 pm: really nice bow! thanks for the build-along!

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Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: Bent Rig on February 18, 2008, 10:33:42 pm: Very nice ! something I must try down the road - ;)
Title: Re: Amatuer Holmgaard self bow
Post by: PK on February 18, 2008, 10:59:41 pm: dang regulations :'( Gotta Respect the indangered species And give back to Earth to create from It.

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