Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: loefflerchuck on December 09, 2015, 12:28:48 am
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I am very convinced this is the best design for juniper and sinew. Utah juniper with 3.5 layers of elk sinew. 50" long tip to tip, 2.25" widest part. 60# draw at 24". Made for somebody who short draws. Got the snakeskin from Clint(Osage outlaw) a while back. Brain tanned deer handle. Wood treated with grease and then the whole bow coated with a few layers of shelac. Holds 3.5" of unstrung reflex. It tested better than I would have hoped for before I started the build. I used regular cedar and spruce target arrows. 475 grain arrow 170 fps. 624 grain arrow 159 fps. I know these are not flight shooting speeds, but this is a pretty basic design bow and basic non tapered arrows. There is a lot to be said for a slow tiller and never overdrawing the bow.
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full draw
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Wow!
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Holy smokes Chuck that is an awesome bow!
Love those profiles and the tiller is spot on.
What kind of skins are those?
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That is a drop dead gorgeous bow. It looks almost like a lving thing. Incredible! :)
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Wow, that's beautiful and packs a good old punch too.
Del
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Sweet!!!! :)
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That's a beauty for sure. Love it. :)
Pappy
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Very nice work on your bow.From locally too.Gotta like that resting profile!!!!Old Ishi would like that one I'm sure.
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Out of the Park, Chuck! I like those short bows.
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That bow looks absolutely perfect all around Chuck, I would take that one after deer for sure. That style of bow really appeals to me and I'd love to put together one that looks that good.
I have a clean erc stave with thick sapwood plus a short yew stave and been wanting to do the same design on both. May have to pm you for tips when I get around to that project if that would be OK.
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Yeeah, that's a classical beauty.
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man chuck, you knocked that one outta the park...straight up meat maker! Nice work.
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Gorgeous!!!!
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Excellent! Love the tiller! Jawge
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You nailed that one chuck, love that unbraced profile. Beautiful skins and tiller too. Is that all sapwood?
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Man oh man! That's is exquisite in all regards! Very nicely done Sir! Josh
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50" long, 60# at 24" Gotta love that! 8)
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SWEETTTTTTTTTTTT
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Thanks everybody. Bent, contact me any time. Ryan, I think some kind of timber rattler. I forgot. Have to ask Clint. Yes all sapwood.
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very nice,, I like the short bows,, :)
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Beautiful!
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KILLER!! That is what I picture when I think of a sinew backed bow.
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That is awesome! I need to figure out how to work with Juniper because I have a lot around here.
1. Do work with fresh staves made from limbs? ...or are they dried for a long time?
2. How do you get it to bend in your favor and stay that way?
Thanks.
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Very Nice!
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Yes, I think also that this design is the best you could do with jupiter.
Great work!
I would like to make the same bow, but in Germany you can't find jupiter such wide.
Michael
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great bow!
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I really like the front profile and the reflex you managed to keep in that short little bow. I bet it's 'fun' to brace! :o
...and of course the full draw just closes the deal! Truly beautiful!
OneBow
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MXer, This bow is from a trunk. After I split it into staves I roughed out 4 bows within a month of cutting it as it bends easy with steam when it is green and tends to crack after it is seasoned. I don't have problems with warping or checking. Sometimes I make the bow right away and back it with sinew and let the wood season while the sinew cures.
Onebowonder, my method of stringing is putting my foot on the handle and flattening the bow on the ground, then stringing. I use it for stringing bows with way more reflex than this. Never had a problem.
Thanks everybody.
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How did I miss this post? That is a beautiful bow. I bet it really flings an arrow. Great job on it Chuck.
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Awesome work!
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Beautiful work, I like the profiles and the authentic look
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at is really nice! Great job. Love the snakeskins.
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i love that full draw profile. great work :)
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Man oh man Chuck that thing looks sweet
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Thanks everybody.
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Very nice!!!
Always enjoy your post chuck.
Your title does confuse me a bit though.I see the term Ishi style used quite often regarding short bows of wide limb.I was led to believe,that you were kind of a stickler for historical accuracy,or am i mistaken? If i am mistaken,then disregard......
In my personal observation and experience regarding Ishi,i have never witnessed a bow by Ishis hand,that was of a pyramid front profile.All the bows i have examined,that were credited to Ishi were a flat bow with parallel limb width,from just past grip to near tip.Had you used Modoc or Shasta,i would not have a question.
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Chuck, That is my kinda bow. You nailed it for sure. That is a true beauty.
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A very beautiful bow to look at. Thank you for posting the specifics on the bow also. I appreciate you listing the arrow weight and speed. Thank You. Great Job
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I sometimes am Traxx, and your right, but I also want to give credit where it's due. Besides making it more of a pyramid taper than his and obvious things like snakeskin, the rest is Ishi. Juniper, sinew and his pin nocks. If I ever make a post with "replica" in it, I welcome you to try and find a flaw.
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I look forward to the challenge Chuck. ;)
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:-*
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yes thank you for posting the specs,, really helps give one an idea of the efficiency,, :)
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That looks pretty amazing!
I'm not sure how to interpret the half in 3.5 layers of sinew, though. Sounds like digging half a hole, if you know what i mean.
Anyhow, thanks for sharing your beautiful work. This bow looks like what many of us dream of making and few of us will ever realize.
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The half is the middle half of the back. Not 1/4 of each edge to give it a little crown in the middle.
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Traxx, I did make an attempt of an exact replica of a Ishi bow a couple years back complete with salmon skin glue I made. It was my first attempt with that glue. The glue did not hold the sinew and it broke near the finished tiller.
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Chuck - I'd like to make a similar bow. I don't have access to Juniper but I have some Yew. Have you tried similar designs with Yew? Successful?