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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 18, 2008, 06:41:40 pm

Title: first try at keokuk (new pic added)
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 18, 2008, 06:41:40 pm
i picked up a couple spalls of keokuk at the latest FL  knap-in, mentioned by mullet in the earlier thread.  i looked to me like good stuff and i just had a good feeling about it. i started knockin some flakes today  and this is what i came up with on the first round.     its 7\8 wide and 2 1\2 long, it turned out very even and nice and thin.  its legal to hunt with, but usually i stick with 1"  wide points...how much difference could a 1\8" make?..lol  also it came out real sharp too, more so than i expected from this stone.      i just dont know if i should notch it or not, i could do some simple side notched or a small dove tail.   let me know what you guys think on the matter. - Ryan


also this is my first flint ridge point aswell, it cam out pretty good, its 1" wide and 2 1\4 long.  respectivly sharp but a little thicker than i would have liked it to be.  i had bought some flint ridge some time ago and it was 50lbs of less than satisfactory stone, it didnt produce 1 single point, it was heavily grained and fractured. but this new stuff i got was top notch!

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Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: wvfknapper on February 18, 2008, 07:42:55 pm
Nice work,, That keokuk works really well and sometimes has good color,,, I love flint ridge , lots of color and if heated right it works like a dream............I like side notches instead of the dovetail type notches but either work fine.

wvflintknapper
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: El Destructo on February 18, 2008, 07:54:31 pm
Thats awesome....I wish I could pick up this talent....I can find the Flint...but have no talent for knapping it!! You Guys amaze me.....I watched a Ranger here at the Alibates Flint Quarry National Monument whip out a beautiful Point in less than 25 minutes while talking to Us....it was unbelievable how talented He was at it.....My Hat goes off to you Guys!!
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: mullet on February 18, 2008, 08:59:00 pm
   Nice points Ryan, I quit notching mine a couple of years ago to hunt with. I just wrap the shaft real good with sinew and glue them in with TB3. I don't care if they fall off after a pass thru or inside a chest cavity. Were you with the people from Brookesville? , Paleo Bob and Sherry? I'm trieing to place who you were,,poney tail tied tight with Tattoos?
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 18, 2008, 09:21:22 pm
thanks guys,
mullet, i didnt stay around very long, i had lots of places to be :( so im afraid i wasnt very social
but i was the younger guy with a pony tail and long sleave shirt and a fred bear style hat. i asked about your quartz point that i thought was glass.
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: keekeerun on February 18, 2008, 09:46:20 pm
Very nice work twistedlimbs. Where would I find or buy some keokuk
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 18, 2008, 10:26:24 pm
i dont know where to buy any online, but i believe its form oklahoma

i was deciding between the small dove tail and a dalton. i was all for the dalton but i didnt want to risk breaking it by knocking flutes so i opted for the dove

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Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: cowboy on February 18, 2008, 10:37:48 pm
That's some nice work twistedlimbs! I was gonna say that if you do notch it and are planning on huntin with it, be sure to not have barbs - looks like you did fine. You've got the semmetry down ;), nice point!
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: david w. on February 18, 2008, 11:15:39 pm
those are great twistedlimbs i love them
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: mullet on February 18, 2008, 11:20:07 pm
  you can have barbs in Florida.  That wasn't my point, that was Claude Van Orders', I was there taking pictures, not knapping. I left about 12:30.
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 19, 2008, 12:11:56 am
HA! looks like i intruduced myself to the wrong person...lol   i think....   i introduced myself to the man in the camo bandana...not you?    i said "eddie parker"  he said yup....  must have meant you were around. i was there from 10- 11ish. he said he recognized me from primitive archer, if tahts not you, what does he go by on here?
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: mullet on February 19, 2008, 08:49:34 pm
 Well that's funny, I must have been at Rick Swartzes booth when you came by. I was there the same time you were. But you introduced yourself to about the best knapper in the SE, Claude Van Order. There is some videos on YouTube. That was a nice quartze blade.
Title: Re: first try at keokuk
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 19, 2008, 10:56:58 pm
i guess thats like shaking hands with the president and saying hello senator..lol ( i hate politics)
well its a shame i didnt get to meet you then. whats funny is he said he remember talkin to me on PA and recognized me.....lol   he must get that a lot.  but wh oknows maybehe did and i jsut dont realize it..lol  that was a very nice quarts blade.
           

also i was busy today aswell, fueled by yesterdays success, i took up a piece of un-heated texas chert that was a lot thicker than i would noramally have tackled, buti did manage to take it down pretty darn thin and make a decent small point from it aswel, very sharp and strong. its a shame the cameras can capture all the points traits only the overal shape.    but here it is- Ryan
texas chert un-heated
7\8  x   2 1\4


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Title: Re: first try at keokuk (new pic added)
Post by: Electricfrontporch on February 20, 2008, 08:31:11 pm
Nice points.  I picked up some of that as well.  Mine aren't that refined yet but someday I'll get there. 
Title: Re: first try at keokuk (new pic added)
Post by: cowboy on February 20, 2008, 10:15:40 pm
Nice work Ryan! Those points will kill anything you'll most likely hunt - keep it up, before you know it you'll be gettin em so thin that they won't have the weight you need.
Title: Re: first try at keokuk (new pic added)
Post by: mullet on February 20, 2008, 11:23:02 pm
  Snookskin, I presume, You are the same brand spanking new TBOF officer I met?
Title: Re: first try at keokuk (new pic added)
Post by: Otoe Bow on February 21, 2008, 08:06:23 pm
Very nice TL.  I hope I'll be able to do that some day, with something to show for it at the end. 

Otoe 
Title: Re: first try at keokuk (new pic added)
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 21, 2008, 09:31:42 pm
thanks all,   you know i havent been doin ths very long, maybe a year and a half, all i use is a hammerstone and an antler tine, and they all come from spalls and flakes, no sawn slabs . i dont know if i am goin to progress much more using just those tools, but i dont want to use copper i like staying as primitve as i can.   how long does one have to do this before he can consider himself an accomplished knapper?  when i started i was tickled just to make somthing that resembled a point, i wouldnt have imagined ever getting them to the point they are now, especialy with just primitive tools. but they still arent the works of art that i see fellow knappers producing.- Ryan
Title: Re: first try at keokuk (new pic added)
Post by: keekeerun on February 21, 2008, 09:49:07 pm
twistedlimbs I'D say your already there. I just got into knapping and I LOVE IT