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Title: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 20, 2016, 01:24:09 pm
Anyone deal with arthritis in you hands? Mines not serious at all compared to some but it's an annoyance when I'm shooting and I don't need annoyances. I've got inflammation in the joint of my thumb right where the bow sits. As much as I dislike the look of pistol grip I'm thinking it would take the pressure of my thumb. Has anyone tried this? How would you go about retro fitting a pistol grip--cork? 
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 20, 2016, 01:44:04 pm
If you can live with it, what do you care what a bunch of us neo-neanderthals think?  Do it, if it helps you stay in the game, brother!
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 20, 2016, 03:37:23 pm
Well, I know that most of you would smear your hands with bear grease and dance naked around an Osage tree but I'm not that far gone ;D ;D ;D Just wondering if anyone had a similar problem and how they solved it? I didn't really put you in the "Old Guys" classification JW
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 20, 2016, 03:46:17 pm
Well, I know that most of you would smear your hands with bear grease and dance naked around an Osage tree but I'm not that far gone ;D ;D ;D Just wondering if anyone had a similar problem and how they solved it? I didn't really put you in the "Old Guys" classification JW

Yeah, tell that to the RA in my right thumb, the blown discs in my lower back, and the hip joint that is currently on strike...
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: Chief RID on April 20, 2016, 04:00:32 pm
I don't have it real bad. Mostly back and hands. I don't feel it when I shoot. I am shooting pistol grips.
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: TimBo on April 20, 2016, 05:09:10 pm
I'm not THAT old (maybe? unless you ask my kids...), so I don't have any arthritis issues.  But I am a big proponent of acupuncture for all of my other middle age issues.  It definitely has helped me, sometimes dramatically, with tendonitis and some neck/shoulder problems. 

I also wonder if you could glue a thin piece of foam rubber or something similar to the pressure point on your grip (sort of like a Dr. Scholl's shoe insert). 
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 20, 2016, 05:19:23 pm
One of those jelly things, hmm, that might work
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 20, 2016, 07:52:05 pm
Laugh if you will but this solved the problem ;D  What did primitive people use for corns?
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: crooketarrow on April 20, 2016, 10:23:22 pm
  Bud 2 years ago the only thing I knew about RA is my mom had it her whole life.

  From about 2 years back to about 5 ,6 months my RA's really sucked, NO RELEAVE, PAIN PILLS HELP FOR 1/2 HOUR IF YOUR LUCKY.

  But the last few months I've gotten way worse. Broke a bone in the arch of my foot in JULY. By NOV. It was good I thought. Bow hunted 9 days re broke it. Better findly by MARCH 3 weeks my RA in my ankle. 100 Yards In on the couch next day. My ankles been swelled double its normal size for a month. Even since I got RA in it.

I've never missed a first day of gobbler season since I killed my first gobbler at 8 years old. Setting between my granddaddy's legs.

  I've killed 15 gobblers with my selfbows. 6 With re curves and long bows, 4 with a compounds.

   I haven't picked up my bow and shot it since NOV. 9 TH. Last day I buck hunted.

No releave. I'm doing ROCKIE 30 'S now,worth less unless you like the high. My fingers have swelled and has hurt for lithely months.

  Flare ups ahead of every front coming when the bioarm er drops. If anyone ever says my leg hurts it's going to rain. Bet on it and give odds because it's very true.

  I've been knapping the last couple months. Fingers, elbos and shoulders SUCK for real. Pain where's you down.

 Worse thing you can't take a lot for RA that your body will let you take it. At least thats how it is for me.Through in I've been dibectic for 30 years. 

    Really sucks when you've walked 10,000 miles, took couple hikes a week your whole life, doing something. You wake up one day and you can't walk to the bathroom.

  Your perrty none when just about every joint in your body has hunt at some point in the day.
  And I'm not that old 53.

  My advice is if you have the start of arthritis go tommorow and see someone about it right away.

  If not be perpaired for a life of pain and pain pills. I'm there I know.



Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: Fred Arnold on April 20, 2016, 11:18:24 pm
Personally I don't like doctors. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use them just because of my distaste for the AMA. I prefer holistic methods to relieve the symptoms and pain. You might want to refer back to some of the PA magazine articles.
The majority of doc's that you visit will first put you on pain killers and anti inflammatory. Then they'll schedule an appointment for surgery. Go figure?
You can consider my advice or shoot a crooketarrow whichever you prefer.
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 20, 2016, 11:29:34 pm
I have a mild form of arthritis, not a big deal. It was just distracting enough to throw off my shots. I put that corn plaster on the bow and shot the best I have in weeks.(still not great ;))  I just have to come up with a slightly better looking fix ;) I'm thinking along the line of a shooting glove with some padding in it. And it I'm going to wear a glove maybe I can get rid of the shelf ;D
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: stickbender on April 21, 2016, 01:07:07 am

     What did the ancients use for corns?  Buffalo butter, and salt. ::) ::)
But seriously for your mild arthritis, I suggest you at least try this, unless you are recovering alcoholic.  I have arthritis, in my fingers, back and neck, and bone spurs.  I have a bone spur, in my single salute finger, on my right hand, and when I use my hand a lot, or grip something hard, it will rub a vessel across the spur, and my finger will swell, and tighten up, and turn colors, and look like bad bruise.  A couple of days, or so later, it is back to normal.  I have arthritis knots starting on my left single salute finger, but they have not enlarged in five years.  Occasionally, my hands will start hurting, and get stiff.  But when I take a teaspoon of gin and raisins, the next day, or later that night I feel fine.  I usually take it, but I hate golden raisins, so I will go a week or so without it, and then I will notice my hands starting to get sore.  The remedy is simply a box of golden raisins, dumped into a bowl, and covered with gin.  I don't know how many ounces the box is, but it is the standard box that golden raisins come in.  Any brand of gin is fine  One guy swears by Blue something or another, others go with Bombay.  I just use Tanqueray, as it is what I have in my booze cabinet.  You just dump the raisins in a bowl, and cover them with gin, and cover the bowl, with a cloth, and let it sit in the refrigerator, for a week.  The raisins will plump up, and the majority of the alcohol will have evaporated.  You may have to add a little more gin if the raisins soak up too much gin, and are not covered.  The original dosage was 9 raisins a day.  I just dip a plastic spoon, and get about 10-12 or so, and chew them up and swallow.  I first heard about this on the  Peoples Pharmacy.  I had read it in their syndicated column in the news paper.  Joe, and Terry Graedon are the hosts.  They have a radio show, on Sundays, and will have either a picked subject or just have people call in with home remedies, or to ask a question.  Joe is a registered Pharmacist, and Terry, is a Medical Anthropologist.  People asked about the gin and raisins, remedy for arthritis, and wondered why it works, Joe said it might be the combination of the sloe berry from the gin, and the resveratrol, from the raisins.  Both are anti inflammatory.  But it has worked very well for me.  It may not work for everyone, but it has been a charm for me.  Give it a try.  If nothing else, have a gin and tonic!
There have been many people who have written, and called in, to say what a miracle it has been for them.  One lady, could no longer write or drive, because her hands had become so gnarled.  The medicine the Dr. had given her, made her sick, and did not help at all.  Someone had told her about the gin and raisins, and she tried it, and felt some relief, so kept taking them, and now she is writing again, and driving.  Give it a try, you may or may not notice a change real soon, but eat a teaspoon full of raisins, each day, till the bowl of raisins are gone, and see.  You should see a difference with a couple of days.  Let me know how they work for you.
                                    Wayne
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 21, 2016, 10:54:59 am
Unfortunately I am a recovering alcoholic. maybe the raisins by themselves will help. Thanks
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: Pat B on April 21, 2016, 11:20:20 am
I've developed arthritis in my left thumb but so far its not too bad. My elbows hurt, my back hurts, my knees, my hips and other places but so far they are all manageable. Like the old saying goes...Old age ain't for sissies!
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: Strelets on April 21, 2016, 02:43:07 pm
I find that gels containing ibuprofen really do work.  Rub them well into the hands and over any other painful joints. They keep me shooting when the arthritis starts getting bad.
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: TimBo on April 21, 2016, 10:14:53 pm
Hey, that's great that the ugly foam thing helps! 
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 22, 2016, 12:40:17 am
Now my problem is fixing the ugly foam thing ;D ;D
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: stickbender on April 22, 2016, 02:29:32 am
     DC, sorry the remedy isn't for you, but I think you can get just the resveratrol in health food stores.  The lady that had it real bad, told her Dr. about the gin and raisins, and he said yeah a lot of people have used that.  She said, well why didn't you tell me about it?!  He just said, well it doesn't work for everyone.  He could have at least told her.  Well see if you can find just the resveratrol  or resveratol, however it is spelled.
Good luck with that, and I am glad that the corn pad worked. 
                                    Wayne
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: stickbender on April 22, 2016, 02:32:33 am
Now my problem is fixing the ugly foam thing ;D ;D

     Just put another piece of foam, or something in the hole, and color it, and draw a ring on the corn pad, and make it look like a target, and call it a good luck charm. ;)
                                    Wayne
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: crooketarrow on April 22, 2016, 09:26:28 am
   Those are all find things to do if it's a finger ,thumb. But there comes a time and you look back and see how much of a joke it was.

  Because when it gets server nothing helps it.

  FRED I
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: Blayne on April 22, 2016, 11:33:20 pm
Maybe you could hide the padding in a glove. Then you bow would still be beautiful, and no pain! Inflamation is such a problem, causing major issues, like arthritis. Much of the inflamation can be reversed with diet change. I had terrible knees for years. No one could fix them, doc, massage, physio. Started eating paleo(been primitive a while!) and within two weeks my knee pain was GONE! I cycle commuted through the pain for ever, worked in crawlspaces on the daily, and climbing ladders. It all hurt and I accepted it. Until I made the change. I am not nearly as strict now and my knees are still as I would expect as someone who isn't in their 40's yet, pain free and bendy! Oh I also gave up booze over 5 years ago. I think that is also a great decision to help rid inflamation. Hope that helps:)
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 22, 2016, 11:51:07 pm
I'm looking for a nice glove to try that with. I'm going to go to Value Village and see what I can find. Maybe I can bring your clamp back ;D
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: crooketarrow on April 23, 2016, 01:30:22 am
  My RA really started about 3,4 years ago It has tripled it the last 6 months.

I've been dibetic for 30 years so the last 10 years I slowed way down drinking.  I do a couple few shots maybe once or twice every few months. I'VE BEEN A SHIN DRINKER MY WHOLE LIFE.

 I've had liver promlems a few years back now antiflamation drugs are off limits. But the joint pains gets so bad I've got to take a couple every couple a 3 days.

 Predator hate to say it sounds about just how I started out couple years back.
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: Blayne on April 23, 2016, 10:05:07 am
Hey Crooketarrow, my suggestion would be to research ways to get inflammation out of your body through herbal remedies and food choices. The things conventional medicines don't talk about. I am sorry you have to go through this. I have a close family friend who is dealing with RA. It is a horrible disease:(

I was wondering why I seemed so short on clamps! I forgot until just know you had it Don lol! That yew stick is coming along, slowly but surely:)
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: DC on April 23, 2016, 11:51:02 am
Darn, my big mouth, I would have been up one good clamp >:D >:D
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: Blayne on April 23, 2016, 04:33:39 pm
Haha! I was thinking the same thing!
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 23, 2016, 04:52:41 pm
Laugh if you will but this solved the problem ;D  What did primitive people use for corns?

I will refrain from any "corny" jokes or other ways of putting my foot in my mouth...
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: mullet on April 23, 2016, 09:50:27 pm
Google Cherry juice for Arthritis. I've used it for gout, basicly the same thing.
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: paoliguy on April 25, 2016, 12:30:47 pm
I agree on the cherry juice, It's made a difference in my joint pain.
Title: Re: Question for the old guys
Post by: bow101 on June 26, 2016, 12:01:11 am
Anyone deal with arthritis in you hands? Mines not serious at all compared to some but it's an annoyance when I'm shooting and I don't need annoyances. I've got inflammation in the joint of my thumb right where the bow sits. As much as I dislike the look of pistol grip I'm thinking it would take the pressure of my thumb. Has anyone tried this? How would you go about retro fitting a pistol grip--cork?

By the way Remind me later,  I'll mention that pistol grip style,  my freaking wrist is killing me... >:D >:D >:D