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Title: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 13, 2016, 03:48:44 pm
I just wanted to show everybody how easy it is bending wood with a Micro Wave oven.
I wrapped the end of this Cascara with wet rags and stuck it through the door of the oven. Set it on Bake Potato, 3.5 minutes, pulled it out and it bent like butter to where I wanted.

The micro wave cost $5 at the Flea Market and I cut two holes through it with a hole saw. And, I don't have a Pacemaker.
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Post by: bubby on May 13, 2016, 03:55:43 pm
I've been going to do this but wasn't sure which way to make the holes now i know😉
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Post by: DC on May 13, 2016, 04:04:57 pm
Slick use of a joist hanger! I'll steal that.
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Post by: Aaron H on May 13, 2016, 04:06:44 pm
Ok I gotta ask, why the baked potato setting?
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Post by: Mounter on May 13, 2016, 04:14:17 pm
Gotta agree with DC.. The joist hanger is a great idea.

So will it work with all woods. Hickory and osage in paticular.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 13, 2016, 04:20:15 pm
I've used it for hickory, osage, vine maple and eastern cedar.

Baked potato? I picked it because I don't know how to set the time and temperature, it worked.

Bubby, cut the holes through the sheet metal and plastic, not electric.
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Post by: Lumberman on May 13, 2016, 04:58:06 pm
Because yingling and baked potatoes go together!
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Post by: mullet on May 13, 2016, 05:25:38 pm
:-)
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Post by: Parnell on May 13, 2016, 05:49:45 pm
That's not primitive you darn dirty cheater! ;D
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Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on May 13, 2016, 06:02:48 pm
So do you leave the room when your cooking your stave?
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Post by: jeffp51 on May 13, 2016, 06:58:39 pm
I can't tell from the picture--the holes go straight through the microwave?  What did you cut them with and how did you know you wouldn't hit anything critical and electrocute yourself to death?
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: bradsmith2010 on May 13, 2016, 07:07:17 pm
if the microwave is at lest 5 years old it can be considered primitive,, ,, but I am still scared of that thing with the holes in it, that looks  ,, well scary,, :)
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 13, 2016, 07:32:12 pm
No. I don't leave the room. I stuff the two holes with wet rags.

The holes go straight through, It doesn't take much to figure out which end has all of the electric, look for the holes where the fan is and unplug it before you cut into it. I used a hole saw on the end of my drill.

If you are afraid to use it, google micro wave and make a tin foil hat. Do you think the rags do anything different then the thin plastic you have your face pressed to watching your pizza slice heat up?

Hey, Steve, it looked old with all of the meat splatter inside.;-)
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: DC on May 13, 2016, 07:49:55 pm
You mean that plastic that is specially treated to reflect microwaves? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Emmet on May 13, 2016, 09:09:39 pm
While trying to research this method a while back there wasn't much that said safe or un safe on the internet. It did say the waves travel in a straight line from one side to the other, there is something that transmits and something that receives. this is why food has to rotate to heat even. something dry doesn't heat. It's the water that is affected. wood works well. The holes as Mullet has them should be safe as far as I could tell. I don't think I would stand with my lower waist directly in front of the hole while using this way tho.
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Post by: Jim Davis on May 13, 2016, 09:24:29 pm
Actually, the window material does have metallic grid to break up any stray microwaves.

I like this. Been wishing for a 6-foot-long version to quick dry a stave.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 13, 2016, 10:12:39 pm
Emmet; Check out the angle of the hole and my Yuengling. :-)
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: Emmet on May 14, 2016, 12:03:09 am
What is Yengling?
Angling?

I think microwaves can be used safe like this at least I haven't found anything that says different.
I have seen wood heated in one and it did bend like rubber. ;)
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Post by: osage outlaw on May 14, 2016, 12:13:16 am
Mullet, you might want to line your speedo with lead just in case  ;)  You don't want to nuke anything important with those stray waves.
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Post by: chamookman on May 14, 2016, 03:15:49 am
All I can say is - that's COOL ! Rock on Dude ! Bob
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Post by: Eric Krewson on May 14, 2016, 07:53:56 am
I used to dry chunks of wood in a microwave for duck carving. Set for the right time it worked great, set the microwave with a little too much time and the wood would be charred black in the center.
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Post by: Lumberman on May 14, 2016, 09:08:17 am
Yengling is a fairly simple but enjoyable light lager
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Post by: BowEd on May 14, 2016, 09:37:42 am
Good one mullet.I like it.I'll keep this in mind when I'm at a sale sometime.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 14, 2016, 03:35:25 pm
I just bent the other limb, eezie peezie.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: Parnell on May 14, 2016, 03:35:55 pm
I went to the thrift shop today, bought a microwave, and cut out a window with a drill.  I zapped some wood but, I grew a third testicle that started talking smack about my mom.  So...:
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 14, 2016, 03:40:06 pm
Smack it with a hammer.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: vinemaplebows on May 14, 2016, 04:38:19 pm
Your going to DIE!!! Stop this will give you cancer!!!! 8) 8) Eddie let that wood set for a few days is my advice. If the wood was hot to the touch, the internal wood will be super dry, and Cascara can't be too dry or it will snap.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 14, 2016, 04:48:53 pm
Brian, I watered my garden all morning with the wood getting soaked while I did it. Then wrapped it in wet rags and cooked it. I'll let it sit till next weekend when I get a chance to work on it again. Too many irons in the fire right now.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: vinemaplebows on May 14, 2016, 05:06:37 pm
I went to the thrift shop today, bought a microwave, and cut out a window with a drill.  I zapped some wood but, I grew a third testicle that started talking smack about my mom.  So...:

 I thought that was normal, no hammer for this guy! You let us know how that goes Eddie, as you too have just joined the additional testicle team! :laugh:
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Post by: Tree_Ninja on May 14, 2016, 05:08:58 pm
As much fun as this looks, I am pretty happy with my garment steamer and bag. Despite 60min of steaming.

This is very minor on the scale of internet microwave crimes. That said it isn't exactly the safest idea (fire hazard, plasma balls, arcing etc.)  Cancer? Maybe. I once heard a japanese student was patenting a steel forge/furnace that used 6 old magnetotrons from microwaves.

You could use a fine mesh of metal approx 1 foot away from hole to act as faraday cage, to catch any stray waves.

On the plus side, internet might be spotty whenever you use it. Makes a good jammer.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 14, 2016, 08:21:09 pm
I was posting while I was using it, no problem with the internet. I've been using one for close to fifteen years bending wood, everything still works. I'm more worried about what I've been exposed to at work. Thirty plus years of drilling in Chemical, Nuclear Power Plants and EPA Super Fund sites in Space suits,so I'm not  worried about bending wood with a hot dog cooker. Like said, Rock on.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: osage outlaw on May 14, 2016, 08:50:50 pm
I left an old microwave in my office at work when I cleaned my stuff out last week.  You've got me wanting to go back and grab it. 
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mullet on May 14, 2016, 11:14:23 pm
Clint, Osage bends real easy at less heat then White wood.
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Post by: Dvshunter on May 15, 2016, 05:06:08 pm
I can't tell from the picture--the holes go straight through the microwave?  What did you cut them with and how did you know you wouldn't hit anything critical and electrocute yourself to death?

He probably unplugged it first.  O:)  >:D
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Post by: Del the cat on May 16, 2016, 01:58:12 am
That's cool...
Has local air traffic control been seeing UFOs on their radar since youbeen doing it? ::)  :laugh:
Del
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: mikekeswick on May 16, 2016, 02:56:19 am
When I am making a woodenjigsaw catapult or doing anything where I will be gluing multiple different woods together I always use the micro to get the moisture contents where I want them so it doesn't peel itself apart later with different shrinkage rates..
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: paco664 on May 16, 2016, 12:00:01 pm
instructions unclear....  now everytime i turn microwave on i pee my pants and forget my name for a bit...
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Post by: JoJoDapyro on May 16, 2016, 12:32:31 pm
In the early 2000's I repaired Nuclear Gamma Cameras. One day I was waiting to talk to my boss while he was on the phone. After standing there for about 3 minutes he took the phone from his face, and asked if I would step back, as he was running flood tests, and I was standing in between the machine, and the target.  >:D I'm fine, No issues that I can see. Not even a bonus testie.
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: akila on May 16, 2016, 03:11:58 pm
Hi..i have to admit that this was realy funny to see those pictures, and i think i have read aboute this recently, that someone was drying wood for knifes in the Microwave oven. Now i honestly think that you should realy read this, and thenn decide for your self, if this is worth taking the risk. This is what i found aboute Microwaves danger. I also stoped a fiew years ago, using this stuff for warming food and so on. I realy think its not safe, and healthy.

''Microwave Facts
Microwaves are radio waves with frequencies ranging from around 300 million cycles per second (300 MHz) to 3 GHz. RF. A standard measure of exposure for microwave energy is the Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) or rate of tissue energy absorption measured in watts per kilogram of tissue.

Microwave radiation leakage can damage human cells and tissues.
All appliances working on electricity produce a toxic electromagnetic field (EMF) of approximately 60 hertz. This is over and above potential microwave leakage from appliances or devices.
 
Microwave ovens can leak
Microwave leakage is serious enough that the FDA sets strict limits on it for the manufacturers. But once door seals age, leaking tends to exceed those limits, often at head level. That’s bad news, because the microwave energy inside a microwave oven is massive!

Frequency inside your microwave 2.45 BILLION hertz.
Frequency shown to start harming the human body: over 10 hertz
That’s 2.45 billion vs. 10 hertz. It doesn’t take very big leak for the damage to begin. (One top culprit: aging door seals)''

 Alot of people will say, that is completely safe, etc. I know only that whenn water that was  first heated in the Microwave oven, and left to cool down, is used for Plants, they end up dying in 2 weeks...so, i think its realy something to take into consideration, specialy that you drilled those holes in there..cou can imagine that there is some leakage there.
 
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Post by: JW_Halverson on May 16, 2016, 03:14:20 pm
I asked my doctor if it was unusual that my left testicle was larger than the other two.  She looks like she could have been a centerfold in a 1960's Eastern Bloc Communist Tractor Supply Catalog and has the accent to match!  She started to explain that while it is not unusual for one to be larger than the oth..."VUT YOU ZAY, OZZER TWOOOO???!!!"   >:D

Despite the impromptu and hurried prostate exam, the look on her face was totally worth it!
Title: Re: Micro Wave, oh my!
Post by: JoJoDapyro on May 16, 2016, 05:41:02 pm
Microwave energy can be absorbed by the body and produce heat in exposed tissues. Organs with a poor blood supply and temperature control, such as the eye, or temperature-sensitive tissue like the testes, have a higher risk of heat damage. However, thermal damage would only occur from long exposures to very high power levels, well in excess of those measured around microwave ovens.

Misconceptions: To dispel some misconceptions, it is important to realize that food cooked in a microwave oven does not become "radioactive". Nor does any microwave energy remain in the cavity or the food after the microwave oven is switched off. In this respect, microwaves act just like light; when the light bulb is turned off, no light remains.

Taken from the World Health Organization website :  http://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/info_microwaves/en/ (http://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/info_microwaves/en/)
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Post by: DC on May 16, 2016, 05:54:46 pm
I went looking for reliable info on this and there are so many ravers out there it's hard to wade through it. I think the best you can do is believe outfits like FDA and WHO although the ravers say that they are run by big business concerns. It's getting so you can't believe the internet. Who'd a thunk it. ;D ;D ;D. We'll just have to trust that Mullet will report if anything falls off in the next few years. ;) ;)
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Post by: akila on May 16, 2016, 06:19:10 pm
I didnt said that the food is becomming radioactive. Its aboute the nutrients in the food that are being damaged, and you practicly eat nothing in the end. On the webpage of WHA, sayis there very clear, that the leackeage can be dangerouse. Aniway, i was just trying to raise awareness, that it might still be dangerouse.
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Post by: mullet on May 16, 2016, 07:24:47 pm
The wife said she will let everyone know when/if something falls off. Good thing they just developed a new procedure for transplanting a certain body part.
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Post by: DC on May 16, 2016, 07:46:11 pm
Good thing they just developed a new procedure for transplanting a certain body part.

Have you got a link for that ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: mullet on May 16, 2016, 09:26:50 pm
Heard Bruce Jenner is the first Donor, you can be first in line.
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Post by: Del the cat on May 17, 2016, 04:20:16 am
I want to see a fight off between a microwave oven and a bandsaw... we'd soon see which was more dangerous >:D
Del
A thousand Quatloos on the Bandsaw!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gamesters_of_Triskelion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gamesters_of_Triskelion)
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Post by: JoJoDapyro on May 17, 2016, 09:56:27 am
I didnt said that the food is becomming radioactive. Its aboute the nutrients in the food that are being damaged, and you practicly eat nothing in the end. On the webpage of WHA, sayis there very clear, that the leackeage can be dangerouse. Aniway, i was just trying to raise awareness, that it might still be dangerouse.

"Some nutrients break down when they’re exposed to heat, whether it is from a microwave or a regular oven. Vitamin C is perhaps the clearest example. But because microwave cooking times are shorter, cooking with a microwave does a better job of preserving vitamin C and other nutrients that break down when heated."

Additionally: "The cooking method that best retains nutrients is one that cooks quickly, heats food for the shortest amount of time, and uses as little liquid as possible. Microwaving meets those criteria. Using the microwave with a small amount of water essentially steams food from the inside out. That keeps more vitamins and minerals than almost any other cooking method."

Taken from : http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/microwave-cooking-and-nutrition (http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/microwave-cooking-and-nutrition)
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Post by: vinemaplebows on May 17, 2016, 08:11:49 pm
For those that are skeptical of the "dangers." If you use wet rags to seal the holes you will not get any leakage, to the best of my knowledge. The rag will be warm to hot on the inside of the oven, but cold on the outside. I tend to believe that the water molecules are not being agitated on the outside, and the "rays" are therefore trapped. I am no scientist, just opinion.  :)
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Post by: mullet on May 17, 2016, 08:48:23 pm
An easy way to tell is stuff the rags, and wrap the outside with tin foil. I'm guessing if there is leakage then there will be some fireworks, also. But, anyway, After my meat meltdown with Alpha-Gal I was run through a battery of test and the Doc's said I was in pretty good shape for an old fart and I've been using the micro wave for a long time with the rags stuffed in the hole like Brian does. I've still got to align the tips so, rock on.
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Post by: Ed Brooks on May 18, 2016, 01:33:49 pm
i have heard that if you put a cell phone in the micro oven and call it, it shouldn't have a connection if there is no leaks, if I remember correctly. Ed
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Post by: GlisGlis on May 18, 2016, 01:39:08 pm
Quote
i have heard that if you put a cell phone in the micro oven and call it, it shouldn't have a connection if there is no leaks, if I remember correctly. Ed

yup. that's the method I use to order my pizzas too  :D :D :D
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Post by: Aaron H on May 18, 2016, 02:21:48 pm
Got it, going to put my cell phone in the microwave and check it.   Do I use the baked potato setting with my phone also?
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Post by: Ed Brooks on May 18, 2016, 05:54:07 pm
Got it, going to put my cell phone in the microwave and check it.   Do I use the baked potato setting with my phone also?
LOL, I think you want to use the popcorn setting.  >:D ;D
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Post by: le0n on May 18, 2016, 06:47:41 pm
i have heard that if you put a cell phone in the micro oven and call it, it shouldn't have a connection if there is no leaks, if I remember correctly. Ed

going to try this immediately. i'll report back.

edit: AT&T 4G-LTE signal went from 4 bars (out of 5) to 2 bars.
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Post by: mullet on May 18, 2016, 09:30:50 pm
I, I, I, I, love it, it it.
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Post by: james parker on May 19, 2016, 12:37:27 am
ok,, Ive held back as long as I could,,, just to let everyone know,,mullet has been pulling your leg,, several yaers ago before he got a microwave,, eddie was my dad,, I know ,Iknow,, how can this be,, sometimes I ask myself the same ?s.... anyway,  i have pics of our family, my dad (eddie) was near 8 ft tall.. but he used to get up late at night and sneek around the kitchen cookin  staves,, sacrificing the love of our family... now just look at him.. theirs no family resemblance at all..  be safe you guys,, plug those holes,, and dont look at the sparklys inside,,, just trying to save you guys some heartaches..... oh yea,, I had to wear my Im not eddie parker shirt at the classic this year :)
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Post by: Pappy on May 19, 2016, 07:09:31 am
Always wondered what happened to Eddie, Thanks James for filling me in. ;) :)  As for Microwave cooking and leaving nothing, I eat from it all the time and my figure says their must be something left. ;) :) :)
 Pappy
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Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on May 19, 2016, 09:43:58 am
Vinemaplebows is correct. Microwave ovens are tuned to the right frequency for water, so a wet rag would stop any of the radio waves in it's tracks, that's how they work, they transfer all of their energy into the water, the water heats up from all the energy input and the water cooks your food.
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Post by: vinemaplebows on May 19, 2016, 12:02:01 pm
Vinemaplebows is correct. Microwave ovens are tuned to the right frequency for water, so a wet rag would stop any of the radio waves in it's tracks, that's how they work, they transfer all of their energy into the water, the water heats up from all the energy input and the water cooks your food.

That is the reason if you put nothing in the oven it does not heat......no water, no heat.
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Post by: mullet on May 19, 2016, 08:03:09 pm
Aww, My Goodness, James, my Son, this makes me feel so good! All of the years you have shunned me and hidden me from your beautiful family has hurt me immensely. Years with no Christmas cards, Farther's Day, ignored, I haven't even seen my wonderful Granddaughter, finally after so many years, Glad to see you are on the down side and Rebecca has finally been able to blossom with such a gift to humanity.

 It was very nice to hear from my oldest Grandson, Eric, today letting me know he would be in Sarasota, Fl. We will get together and load him up with some rock. This, will be a good time of bonding, I'm sure.

 So,, Son, I ask just one small thing, please remember Dad this Father's Day, (June), I love ya, a nice , simple bow would make me tear up till I flooded the whole state of Florida.

But, anyway, if you can't find it in your heart to remember Daddy on Father's Day, I will be happy going to my grave knowing you learned all of those bow building skills from your Daddy.

Love you, Baby;

Daddy.
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Post by: loefflerchuck on May 19, 2016, 08:50:39 pm
That thing is probably not too good for the boys in your junk
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Post by: mullet on May 19, 2016, 09:40:33 pm
I'm 63, Chuck. I'm not trying to make kids and I'm not standing in front of the hole.

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Post by: DC on May 19, 2016, 10:57:29 pm
You just can't mention your microwave without starting a 5 page thread. ;D ;D ;D ;D I think this is about the third time since I've been on here. You have the patience of a saint :D
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Post by: james parker on May 20, 2016, 11:19:03 am
I think Im gonna Cry,,,, NOPE  I was wrong,, im not.... if using microwaves did all that to you in just 63 yrs,, imagine what  the next 63 yrs are gonna be like,,, have fun  down there with Eric,, send me some rocks  by him,, 
hope this year we can all hook up at tims for  a hog hunt,,, Eric would really like that,,, so would i
see ya
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Post by: JW_Halverson on May 24, 2016, 09:51:23 pm
What setting do you use to warm holy buffalo whiz?
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Post by: mullet on May 25, 2016, 01:51:29 pm
The holy Whiz button, of course.
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Post by: chamookman on May 26, 2016, 04:16:32 am
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:! Bob
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Post by: Pappy on May 26, 2016, 08:37:48 am
It would all depend on the temperature /texture and size of the of the whiz before deciding on the setting I would use.  ;) :) :) :)
 Pappy
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Post by: DC on May 26, 2016, 11:49:20 am
This is kinda heading down the outhouse ;D ;D