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Title: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on August 02, 2016, 09:16:58 am
Passed my 9th Kidney Stone Sunday night. Tired of these things. Any body know of any home remedies to help with them. I drink a ton of home made lemonade and very little pop.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: Ed Brooks on August 02, 2016, 10:21:16 am
I feel for you man I get stones a bit on both sides I have also had a cryo ablation on my kidney, so I also pass a lot of kidney pieces. I drink some apple cider vinegar mixed with water, not sure if it helps but lets me feel like I'm able to do something about them. I am fortunate that the only pain I get is when they are moving down my back and not the final few inches.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: Chippintuff on August 02, 2016, 11:13:19 am
I posted the question on this forum. http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/forums/146#.V6C6I1eMDBJ

WA
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: Jon Kaw on August 02, 2016, 12:08:56 pm
I'm sorry you've had such a painful experience.  Have you had them tested to see what they're composed of?  That might give you an idea of dietary changes you could make to reduce their frequency.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on August 02, 2016, 12:47:31 pm
I've done all the test there calcium stones. They just tell me to drink a lot of purified water w lemon juice but after 6 years of them I'm ready to find something else to try
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: bow101 on August 02, 2016, 01:41:12 pm
Not sure about this method but apparently there is a water tank that they submerse you in and hit the kidneys with some kind of special ultra sound vibration under water.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: JoJoDapyro on August 02, 2016, 01:48:17 pm
Not sure about this method but apparently there is a water tank that they submerse you in and hit the kidneys with some kind of special ultra sound vibration under water.

It looks brutal. My Brother in law has had it done a few times. He said it feels like someone kicked the crap out of him after he's done.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: PaulLovesJamie on August 02, 2016, 03:26:39 pm
Huh... a subject I can contribute to.
Having dealt with stones for around 25 years (biggest was 23 mm, after lithotripsy it was like passing 1000 stones over a 2 week period) I could write pages and pages on this topic, but I'll skip straight to my top conclusions:

--> listen to your urologist, and then go see specialist. Urologist is great, kidney stone specialist is better. Get the extra blood tests, etc etc.
--> None of the home remedies worked for me. None. Not at all. But yes I still avoid teas, and drink lots of sugar free lemonade.
--> If you are not peeing every couple hours, you are not drinking enough - flush the kidneys constantly. Its a pita, but nothing compared to a stone, nothing. Drink. More. Then keep drinking. Then drink more.  And if you're a beer drinker remember that alcohol dehydrates you (which is bad for stones) so drink 1 full glass of water with every beer.
--> Calcium oxalate stones - years ago they told me "No more calcium - no milk, no cheese, etc."  Now they say that wasnt right, the problem is that when you eat foods with either calcium or oxalates, make sure you have both together so that they bind in the gut and never get to your kidney. (google that, IMO its kind of important.)

Bottom line is that they dont really know the precise cause or prevention. At least not that I can find.
So for me, I drink drink drink; avoid calcium and oxalates but when I have them I have both; drink some more; and be thankful that modern medicine can prevent the stones from killing me and can prescribe drugs.

Good luck, I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: PaulLovesJamie on August 02, 2016, 03:29:58 pm
Not sure about this method but apparently there is a water tank that they submerse you in and hit the kidneys with some kind of special ultra sound vibration under water.

It looks brutal. My Brother in law has had it done a few times. He said it feels like someone kicked the crap out of him after he's done.

First time I had it done I asked my doc if he could do it without putting me under anesthesia. He said well, you're about to get hit by A-Rods baseball bat about 50,000 times, are you up for that without drugs?

The process is getting a lot better though - a good doc with the newest equipment and its not horrible. A lot better than the alternatives.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: Marc St Louis on August 02, 2016, 03:32:53 pm
Passed my 9th Kidney Stone Sunday night. Tired of these things. Any body know of any home remedies to help with them. I drink a ton of home made lemonade and very little pop.

You could check this site out for herbal medicines http://www.legendsofamerica.com/na-remedy6.html#K, this particular page deals with kidney problems
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: turtle on August 02, 2016, 07:20:57 pm
Hydrangea. You can get it in pill form at healthfood stores.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: TimothyR on August 03, 2016, 06:46:53 pm
100% cranberry juice. Organic is the best. Just make sure it has not preservatives and no added suger
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: Chippintuff on August 04, 2016, 01:32:47 am
I got a response on my post asking for home/herbal remedies for kidney stones. Madder root and also Yarrow tea were both recommended. I have no experience with either of them, so you might read up on them.

WA
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: Zuma on August 04, 2016, 09:17:20 am
Fortunately I have no experience with
the stones.
What I can do is wish you luck in finding
some helpful solution/s.
It's amazing as to how sad science and
health care are in these matters.
I'm a big fan of Cranberry.
Zuma
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on August 04, 2016, 12:31:42 pm
Thanks guys. I'm trying to get into a kidney specialist as of now.

PLJ I thought my 6mm x 4mm was bad. But yours shewwee.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: Chippintuff on August 04, 2016, 02:17:34 pm
I don't know what the world record is, but I may have seen it on Xray. Back when I was working in a cath lab that also did radiology cases, we had a case in there with stones that literally filled the entire calyces on the back or the kidneys. The stones were close to the same size as the kidneys. Our job was to put stents from the calyces to the bladder to stabilize her till she could bet surgery for the removal. I doubt those two caused any pain by being there, but she may have already passed pieces and other stones.

WA
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: sleek on August 04, 2016, 03:52:24 pm
Well gutshot, i understand your screen name now... that must be what it feels like.
Title: Re: Kidney Stone ?
Post by: vinemaplebows on August 07, 2016, 01:26:36 pm
7mm stone, and plenty more to come doc says....it sucks!!!