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Title: Guava flat bow (arrows found )
Post by: Msturm on October 13, 2016, 03:49:11 pm
Used up my last "easy" :o stave. This one was pretty strait, a bit of character in the upper limb and some natural deflex about mid upper limb. I left everything pretty much as is, I did toast the belly lightly, and a bit heavier in one spot near a knot (thinking it would make that area just a bit stiffer) because I am tired of little compression fractures showing up next to knots in my guava bows  >:(.

This one is a bit different design than I usually go after. It has a fairly crowned back, so I attempted to make the belly match the crown. It seemed like science. 

It is longer than I usually make em. This one is 69in nock to nock, It pulls 54lbs at 28inches. This is the fastest shooting selfbow I have made. Grip is made from a thrift-store purse and a boot lace.

Silencers are raw wool from a big island sheep hunted last year. 

It took a bit of set on the lower limb, maybe an inch or so. The upper limb looks to have more set, but it started with some deflex to begin with, so its hard to tell how much the upper limb moved.

Here come the pics.

Unbraced: (beard unbrushed)(http://i.imgur.com/i6h6XvQ.jpg)

Braced: (http://i.imgur.com/gVS5Nru.jpg)

String Alignment:(http://i.imgur.com/tT148h2.jpg)

Grip/fade:(http://i.imgur.com/FgmvqoI.jpg) 

Money Shot:(http://i.imgur.com/3EoFtzO.jpg)
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: Msturm on October 13, 2016, 03:52:36 pm
A couple more detail shots. Why not! ;D


Bubinga Tip Over Lays: (http://i.imgur.com/MgpaXuK.jpg)

I think the grip came out pretty good:(http://i.imgur.com/SHtb8NI.jpg)

The shelf is built of leather and superglue stacked up and cut to shape then glued on.

Mahalo Nui for looking!

Msturm
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: Chris3kilo on October 13, 2016, 03:54:16 pm
Beautiful bow! Bows like that made me wanna be a bowyer
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: Rain Bows on October 13, 2016, 04:04:58 pm
Awesome bow, Mike! Upstand guy, too! Took the time to meet with me and show me the basics of building a self bow. Can't wait to build my guava with your assistance. Now let's go kill a pig!
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on October 13, 2016, 04:13:24 pm
Bringing the "Sturm und Drang"! 
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: FilipT on October 13, 2016, 04:28:29 pm
These guavas seem like a real good bow wood, sadly it seems they are not common choice for bowyers.
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: Msturm on October 13, 2016, 05:37:58 pm
Rain Bows. I am going to spend the afternoon shooting it and trying to get some good matched up arrows then its hog time!

Chris3kilo, just do it man. You are going to ruin a lot of wood in the process but thats learning. I cant tell you how many boards and staves I broke. Shoot. I still break plenty!

Stalker- In hawaii Guava is EVERYWHERE if you can find a strait piece it will make a fine bow! It is invasive so people are trying to get rid of it. I learned from Manny (Nomadic Pirate). He is the one who put me on to strawberry guava. If you do a search on this site, there is a thread where Manny tries to break a pretty heavy guava bow and he draws it back on the tillering tree to something like 44 inches. It took loads of set, but never went bang. Guava is a great bow wood.
Found the link!
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,2778.15.html

Msturm
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: Msturm on October 13, 2016, 11:46:19 pm
One more thing... First real target session went pretty well. Tagged this guy at 9 yards on the walk out. First blood on the first session. Good luck in this guava stick id say...
(http://i.imgur.com/tWfaVrf.jpg)

Msturm
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 14, 2016, 08:28:59 am
Good looking tiller and bow. Nice shooting!
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: osage outlaw on October 14, 2016, 08:42:58 am
Great job on the bow.  Nice shot on that critter.
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: Parnell on October 14, 2016, 09:35:11 am
That bow looks good!  Does Guava respond to heat treatment?  It grows down here in S Florida but I don't know if its the right species.

What's that critter?  Be fun to do a hog hunt there someday, I was born on Oahu but we left when I was 1.  Never have been back...yet.
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: FilipT on October 14, 2016, 11:17:27 am
Does beard add to the accuracy? :)
Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: Msturm on October 14, 2016, 03:15:24 pm
Parnell its a mongoose..  and yes guava responds well to heat treatment. I have been told that strawberry guava is the guava of choice. it has small bright red fruits about the size of a pingpong ball.  I have worked with yellow guava wood before too. I honestly have not made enough bows of similar design out of each to tell the difference. Use what you can get and lets us know how it works out!

Stalker its my favorite release aid.

Title: Re: Guava flat bow
Post by: Msturm on October 19, 2016, 08:42:06 pm
OK. I have a bit of a problem. I cannot figure out arrows for this bow. Everything I have is too stiff. I cannot put enough weight on my 500 spine carbons, and shooting carbons out of a selfbow seems a bit silly anyway. Please shoot me some recommendations on woodies or bamboo shaft materials.


The bow is 69 inches nock to nock, being pulled 28 and draws 54 lbs at 28.  The shelf is cut maybe a 1/8 or so shy of center.


Mahalo!

Msturm
Title: Re: Guava flat bow ( arrow help please )
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 19, 2016, 10:37:04 pm
Some 30" 50-55's with 125 upfront should fly like darts for you.
Title: Re: Guava flat bow ( arrow help please )
Post by: Msturm on October 19, 2016, 11:41:04 pm
Thanks Pearl Drums!! I will order some shafts this week and let you know how they fly!
Title: Re: Guava flat bow ( arrow help please )
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 20, 2016, 09:14:11 am
If you want cheap and easy? Kustom King sells finished and crested POC shafts for $47 a dozen, and the nock end is tapered already. You cant build them that cheap.
Title: Re: Guava flat bow ( arrow help please )
Post by: Rain Bows on October 20, 2016, 08:47:09 pm
I have Dip Tubes if you want to do them up yourself. Also plenty of feathers (all right wing though) in red and yellow.
Title: Re: Guava flat bow ( arrow help please )
Post by: selfbow joe on October 20, 2016, 09:07:08 pm
Very nice looking bow and nice shoot.
Title: Re: Guava flat bow ( arrow help please )
Post by: Msturm on October 20, 2016, 09:49:56 pm
Rainbows, I will take you up on the fletching for sure!
Title: Re: Guava flat bow ( arrow help please )
Post by: Msturm on October 26, 2016, 02:31:36 am
Pearl Drums: 50-55 spruce shafts at 30 inches with a 145 grain ribtech broadhead is the combination!! thanks for the recommendation. flying like laser beams. Gonna go get a goat or pig this weekend hopefully!


Thanks everyone for all your help!

Msturm
Title: Re: Guava flat bow (arrows found )
Post by: Pappy on October 27, 2016, 09:07:09 am
Great looking bow, good luck with you hunting, sounds like that set up should do the trick. ;)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Guava flat bow (arrows found )
Post by: loon on October 27, 2016, 10:11:04 am
Nice!!
What is that string? It looks natural.
Title: Re: Guava flat bow (arrows found )
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 27, 2016, 10:42:20 am
Sounds good. Go get ya' some pork now!