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Title: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: juniper junkie on March 04, 2008, 01:50:12 am
hey guys, just a reminder that the glass buttes knap-in is the last week of the month. that is in central Oregon about 75 miles east of Bend. ;D
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Post by: D. Tiller on March 04, 2008, 07:22:45 pm
Will be there for the weekend of the 22nd and 23rd. Just wish I could stay longer!

David T
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Post by: Keenan on March 04, 2008, 11:31:34 pm
 Not sure on timing David but it's looking like we will be out there the first weekend as well.  I talked to Dave this morning and it's sounds like that is what he is planning as well.   

 These pics are from a about 2 months after my open heart surgery. These are some true friends. Drove me all the way out there to dig rocks for me to bust up when feeling better. At that time I couldn't do hardley anything and they dug and followed that vain of rainbow obsidian and sent me home with a truck load of some really nice nodes.   
 
 If you've never been there, it has some great quallity and varieties of obsidian. Well worth the trip.  Not to metion that there will be some of the best nappers in the world there.   
  As someone stated on another thread. Emory Coons is usually there and he skills are amasing to watch.  Keenan

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Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: cowboy on March 05, 2008, 12:33:06 am
Maaaaaaannn! Wish I could go and dig into some of that Keenan :'(. I'd be right at home for sure ;D.
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 05, 2008, 09:46:39 pm
Go there as often as I can! Just wish it was more often Keenan! Is that you in the middle? If so I will know who to look out for.

So, you joined the golden zipper club? Sorry to hear about that. My grandfather went through five way bipass surgery arround 15 years ago and hes still going strong to this day. Now turning 81 this year and does IDPA shooting with the young pups and woopen their buts!

Rainbow is nice but I know where some of the good stuff is and also we need to track down the Forest Green again. Cant remember where that came from. The pumpkin hole is also good for some really big stuff. You need to really dig deep for the boulders though!

You have a pry bar by any chance? I will be bringing a pick and shovell. Hmm! Got a 4x4 I can tag along on? My Honda fit can barley make it into the camping spot!

Paul, you need to head up here for one of the big gatherings.  The guys are a blast and the first night is a hoot! You think them southern boys can party! Amaizing some of the guys and galls can walk the next morning!!!  ;D Oh! Almost forgot to mention you wont ever have to pick at them flint pebbles ever again!  ;D 3 Foot long slabs of Obsidian :o :o :o, MMMMM AAAAAHHHHH!!!! THWAK! CHINK!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: cowboy on March 05, 2008, 10:50:25 pm
I do need to make it up there - one of these days ::). I'd come home with the truck sqatted..
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 05, 2008, 11:31:20 pm
Yep! And think how much that rock would be worth in gasollin these days!!!!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Keenan on March 06, 2008, 01:24:12 am
  David, ;D ;D ;D  No, I'm the one taking the pic so I'm not in there.  Doing alot better health wise these days. Had a run of 4 surgeries in two years. The heart is strong as a 20 yr old. just had an aorta about to blow like a baloon. then two ruptured biceps, folowed by intestinal surgery. Seems I have a connective tissue disorder. They haven't quite dialed in yet. But doing ok for now. Have a torn rotator cuff but just grittin the teeth for now.   

 PS. This is my ugly mug. May not have paint on when up there but will probably have mud, dirt, sweat or coffee  Keenan

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Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Blacktail on March 06, 2008, 01:25:23 am
hey dave,i am hoping on making it there.i hope keenan makes it.i would like to meet you guys.i have a long blade that i am working on and i need emory to look at it.later john
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 06, 2008, 02:14:44 am
Be lookin for ya up at the Butes John!

Keenan, I'll keep an eye out for ya. I will be the guy driving the silver Honda Fit and wearing the "Whidbey Island" hat or the "Maui" hat or the Camo hat or the.... ;D .  Its amaising I can actually get into the camping site with it.

Thats a lot of surgeries to go through.  Hope everything is going to work out for ya! Seems like everyone is ending up with health issues these days.  I have to think sometimes its all the unnatural things that are put in our foods these days. Keep on huniting if you can and eating the good food!  Though, there was that granola nature cruncher way back that ended up getting some major stomach problems!  ;D  Luckily the only thing I have to complain about is a sore back. My mother ended up going through brain surgery in October. Shes fine now and it saved here life! Amaizing what surgeons can do these days!

David T

Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Keenan on March 06, 2008, 11:28:29 am
 Way cool, I'll be looking forward seeing you both up there. I haven't been out east very much so I'm not sure what kind of shape the desert is in.  It's been a hard winter here and way more snow then normal, so hope the road in isn't to rutted up.   Keenan

 Ps.David I'll bring a few rock bars and nylon slings. They really help for rolling out the big ones.
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 06, 2008, 04:39:50 pm
Thanks Keenan! One thing to remember about the Buttes at this time of year is be prepared for anything from heavy rains to snow storms and even occasionaly 70 degree weather! First day last year was 70 and sunny next day it changed in less than two hours from  50 in the morning and sunny to low 20's and snow. Then cleared up later in the day! Then rained all the rest of the week!!!

David T
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 12, 2008, 05:34:31 pm
OOOPS! Made a mistake on the dates I will be there if its the last week in March. I will be getting there the evenning of the 28th and  through the weekend. See ya guys there!
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 12, 2008, 10:28:10 pm
Correction again! Checked the PSK callender and it is the 22nd through the 30th! See you all there!!!
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Sparrow on March 13, 2008, 03:25:38 pm
   Hey !, you guys are making me crazy.I love Glass buttes.When I lived in tri-cities washington it was easy to make a rock run every year.Now that I am in alaska,I have'nt been to the buttes since 2005.I have'nt had the forest green,sounds nice.I think my favorite has been the punkin colored stuff.But,I like it all but the snowflake. Boy do I want to go down there now.I'm looking out my window right now and the snow is falling.Yesterday was 50 degrees and sunny though. Have a good time at the Buttes boys.Maybe I will make it next year.  Frank
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Keenan on March 13, 2008, 09:38:20 pm
 Sorry ya can't make it Frank, Dave and I will will do our best to leave a piece or two for ya for next year  >:D ;D We are going for the first 3-4 days. Wish more of you guys could make it.  Keenan
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 13, 2008, 11:41:00 pm
Hey Keenan! Just means more for us. I'm actually starting to collect a bunch of this for trading and stuff. Seems like if I can get enough varieties I can go ahead and trade some for the other primitive things I need in life. Lets see, sinew, feathers, shafts, hmmm maybe even a stave or two!  ;D

Getting excited about getting down there on Friday evenning. Bring the essentials like toilet paper, water, tent, food, and lets not forget the most important of all....LIBATIONS! Dont want to even consider the party night without a bit of that. Dont get drunk but it sure is fun watching some of the folk that first night!  ;D

Hope Stu Murdoc can make it this year! Saw him last but dont know if he will be there or not. Mick and Steve should be there though!

David T
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Knocker on March 14, 2008, 12:26:46 am
Hey David,

I am thinking about going down the 28th and returning the 30th.  Do you think it's worthwhile for someone that doesn't knap? 

I have never knapped before, but would certainly enjoy seeing it done and collecting some Obsidian so I can give it a try.  Brian Melton has already given me some help with bows, so maybe I can twist his arm for some knapping lessons this spring.  Anyone have any idea on the road conditions?  My truck is 2 wheel drive with road tires...  and too new to beat up.  Primitive camp ground is no problem with me.  Sounds like besides the camping gear, food & beverages and lots of warm clothes, bring a bar/pick/shovel/gloves?  A bow?  Ohhh... better put a few spaces between these those two words....   Firewood?

Keith
Olympia
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 14, 2008, 12:40:59 am
Yep! Its a great place to learn and pick up materials. Dont know how many will be there later in the week but there should be a few. Bring all that you can and some firewood helps too. They guys there will be happy to teach you. Also the road into the camp site is washboarded but not to bad. Made it in with my honda fit last year. Most people will be happy to give you a lift up onto the Buttes to dig obsidian with them.
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: BryanB on March 16, 2008, 02:40:20 pm
I wish I could make it.  I'll definately be going next year.
I'm starting to run a little low on rock, if anyone is interested in collecting some and trading for staves, feathers, shoots, etc. let me know. 
Have a fantastic time.
Bryan
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: juniper junkie on March 17, 2008, 01:05:46 am
I am sure we can come up with some rock for you. what are you most interested in? there is  rainbow, pumpkin, midnight lace, tigerstripe, black, mahogany etc.  ;D would you want flakes or whole rocks?
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 17, 2008, 04:11:46 pm
Hey Dave! You wouldn't happen to know where that neat look'en jade green stuff from the Buttes is? Man I have got to get some of that stuff. Its purdy!  ;D
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Keenan on March 18, 2008, 03:30:00 pm
 David, From what I here, that is highly guarded knowledge. But if we find out where that is, I'm sure we can barter for everything that you have,,, ;D >:D   Just kidding I'd like to find some of that myself.  From the sound of things we might have to have snow suites or wet suites for this weekend. ::)  Accually it rained here just a little this morning and the sun is breaking through now. I't supposed to get down to 19 at night for the Bend area by friday and then start warming up to low 50's for a high on Sat and Sun. And looks like Mon. might be nicer.   Keenan
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 18, 2008, 05:14:31 pm
Might have to stay for one more day then! Or head out later in the day to get back home on Monday! I am in desperate need for ROCK!
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Knocker on March 19, 2008, 11:55:38 pm
It looks like I will be able to go to Glass Butte on Friday the 28th-30th.  Would someone kindly tell me where exactly the primitive camp is?  I found Glass Butte on the map East of Bend on Hwy 20.  What is the name of the camp and is it signed?  Is anyone of PA going to be there for sure those days?

Thanks,
Keith
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Keenan on March 20, 2008, 01:10:24 am
 JJ and I are heading out in the morning The 19th and are staying till Sun or monday. Snowed here in Bend today but supposed to be fairly nice by Friday and Sat.
 Head out on hwy 20 east of Bend. about 1 1/2 hrs to mile marker 77  there is a road that cuts off to the right and just follow the main road and tracks going in. It will lead you right to the camp area along the road.   Keenan
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: Keenan on March 20, 2008, 12:18:33 pm
 Emory posted this over on Paleo Planet this morning.


this just in there are two brave souls at the buttes good shit bob from portland and matt male from burns. matt went on a firewood expadition this evening towards jim rigg's summer teaching camp a snow drift found him STUCK! so if you go on any roads around there walk in on it a ways test the ground if you sink walking best have a friend there to pull yer but out of the mud. it's been rainning all day today in burns bend had snow and rain all day too. so bundle up this is the wensday report from emory coons at 10:00 pm also terry crammer (wood carver extrodinare) will be there tomarrow evening is what he said on the phone cecil and lorraine will be visetting friday for the day brad boughman and mic hill will be there saterday no word on whitch day steve allely will show probly monday
 
 Dave and I are headed out this morning, woke up to another skiff of snow on the ground.  :o ::)Suposed to get better Saturday.  ;D Keenan
Title: Re: glass buttes knap-in
Post by: D. Tiller on March 20, 2008, 02:56:58 pm
For all those reading this post. Jim Riggs Knapping area is further down the road than the camping area. Most people comming to the Buttes have 4 wheel drive and will help you pull your car out if it gets stuck. Dont let this scare you from comming since I have only heard of it getting so bad that people had to be towed out on the main road once in all the years this event has been going on.  It also dries up really quickly out in the desert there. May rain then will be gone and bone dry within a day or two or less.  ;D  Its the desert, what can I say? Be prepared for anything weather wise!  ;D

David T