Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: upstatenybowyer on March 21, 2017, 06:21:30 pm
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This one took some work. The stave it came from had issues. Crazy lateral bend, propeller twist, and some concerning weathering checks to name a few. Thank goodness that osage, heat gun in hand, will shape like playdough with patience and care. Once I got it balanced out I posted it here on PA. This was a good move cause this was my first attempt with this type of design and the following folks really helped me out...
Badger, joachimM, Bob W., Pearl Drums, bubby, Beadman, ty_in_ND, Springbuck, Selfbowman, and penderbender
Thank you all very kindly. She's got at least 100 arrows through her and she's smooth, comfortable, and deadly.
So here are the specs...
60" ntn
60# @ 27"
Cherry bark back
buffalo horn, from Greenriver, on the tips and for the inlay (my second attempt, not great but it'll do)
leather handle wrap
let me know what you think :)
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and a few more...
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I like everything about it except for the squareness of the handle and fades. I prefer a more rounded grip and transition into the limbs. That's just the way I like them to fit in my hand.
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Beautiful bow Upstate. Sure can't tell that stave gave you any problems from looking at the end product. Looks like you got some good advice and payed attention to it. Well executed
Bjrogg
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Nice job. Cherry bark backing is on my list. Just need a stave with a flattish back
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Thanks for the replies guys.
OO, I appreciate the honest feedback. I definitely still got a lot to learn. Especially when it comes to details. ;)
Thanks bj, it's kinda like I built it with others. More light comes through two windows than one.
Thanks DC. That cherry bark is great stuff!
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Looks great Jeff, heat gun and Osage go together, the handle is unique, braced and full draw look good!
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Very nice looking bow
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Now, that's a nice R/D full draw tiller in my eye. Very nice bow. 8) :OK
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Great job Jeff.It held up nice for you.Congratulations!!She pretty accurate for ya too? (SH)
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sj, thank you sir.
Pat, I'm happy that you think so. I owe a lot of that to Pearl's input as well as ty's trilam as a reference point.
Ed, you were with me on this one every step of the way brother. She's quite accurate, but I need some practice cause I'm going out turkey hunting with her on May 1! :G :G :G
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I think it's a fine looking bow. Good job
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I don't blame ya!!!With that cherry bark on there.Perfect length too.You've got a full month to marry up to it.Get some good matching arrows.Good luck!!
I'm gonna try to get close enough to a dumb one. (SH) :G
Love those emoticoms or whatever they are called.
Now just so your band saw does'nt arrive toooo early you might make a different bow for the gobbler.
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OO, I appreciate the honest feedback. I definitely still got a lot to learn. Especially when it comes to details. ;)
It's just a matter of personal taste. Make the grips however you like them to feel. Once you find a shape that fits your hand like its been molded for it you will probably start making most of your grips that shape. That's what I did. I've been making a bulbous grip with a small shelf carved in on my recent bows. I didn't like the looks of a carved in shelf until I made a couple and really liked how they shot.
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Great job, looks fun to shoot.
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Very nice upstate, I want to tackle an r/d bow one of these days. You did a fine job in all respects! As far as grips, I have gone the other way. I used to do cut-in shelf and more meat on the handle than I really needed. I showed one such to a bowyer friend who lives nearby and he mentioned that you can usually tell a noob by the grip lol :o . I tried not to take it personally, but it did make me think more about what I thought was a nice looking handle :BB . I've pretty much reverted to off-the-knuckle shooting and bowmaking with just enough grip meat to be comfortable, unless I have a recipient that asks for a cut-in shelf.
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That came out very nice!! I do agree about the grip but you will start to refine that as you grow as a bowyer, nice job😉
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Great RD-profile, and looks like a real killer to me. I'm sorry for the turkeys, cause you'll be giving them a hard time for sure :NN
And I like a cherry bark back anytime.
By the way, a Linden back peeled from a branch, and dried into the desired shape before application also works really well.
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Great looking bow upstate. Looks like a nice shooter, that good luck chasing those turkeys. Our turkey season starts in April. I can't wait to chase one with my bow.
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Cheers Morgan, I'm glad you dig it. :)
Bead, the only thing I ever shot was a rabbit. (B) That kinda ruined me for hunting mammals cause even though it was a good shot (right through the head from about 30 yards) the thing just wouldn't die! I chased it down (still had the arrow going right through it's noggin) tried to cut the head off, and it just kept running around like crazy. Traumatic! But a turkey, nothing cute about them. Plus, the challenge of gettin a gobbler with a traditional bow, now that's an accomplishment!
Outlaw, I wasn't really crazy about the handle and what you wrote about getting it to really fit the hand makes total sense. I'd like to pay more attention to that as time goes on.
rps3, it is a lot of fun to shoot and has a different feel than other designs. I can see why people like to make them.
k-hat, thanks for checking it out. That one you just posted is sweet. Nice character. I still haven't figured out how to make a grip the way I want. I've got abnormally big hands which makes it interesting.
bubby, I love this bow making cause there's always something more learn, improve on, and refine. Thanks for your assistance with this one!
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joachimM, do you mean the inner bark of a Linden? I just had a HUGE one fall in my woods. How to you harvest it? I'm always looking for a new type of backing.
Thanks Redhand!
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Hey great job man! Looks like you worked the tiller out real well. I am wondering how old that Osage is? I thought maybe you could help me, because in late January I cut four green Osage staves. The next day roughed them into profiles and have been sitting at 5/8" for two months in my basement, which is finished and has very low humidity.
I don't have a MC Meter(yet) or a small scale, but I ordered one last week and there has been a hold up. I hope to get it any day. I guess what I'm asking is, if I slowly star working one of the staves are there any tell tale signs to stop and proceed at a later date? I would like to know this even if my MC Meter arrives this week. If not I understand. Congratulations on another job well done. Thanks for posting your work, take care.
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Very nice profiles on this one, nice bow
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Nice job, beautiful bow. :)
Pappy
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Thanks Pappy and goat. :)
Limbwalker, sorry to reply late, I've been busy at work. So this osage came from a huge log that was laying on the ground by the side of the road for who knows how long. The stave came from deep inside the log so I wasn't too concerned about moisture it may have absorbed over the years. So, I did the usual. Roughed it out and monitored the weight (I use a baby scale) for about two weeks. Wasn't loosing any so I proceeded to balance and tiller.
I can't speak about MC meters cause I don't use them. However, if the roughed out bow is 5/8" thick and has been in a low humidity environment since January my guess would be it's ready to tiller. Osage can take a little longer to loose moisture than other woods so if you decide to go for it proceed with caution. Unfortunately the tell tale sign that you're tillering an under-seasoned bow is that it begins to take set. There's no reversing that so use your best judgement. Maybe start with a stave you like less than the others? Your call. Best of luck!
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I'm sure you've said this before but what glue do you use to put your cherry bark on?
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Dang dude nice work!
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Thanks jet.
I just use TB 2 Ed. Occasionally I have to sneak a little CA in a spot or two afterwards, especially if the bow has recurves. ;)
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Way to knock that one into submission, tiller looks great. Been wantin to try one of those one day.
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Oh, she is PRETTY!
Fantastic job having to leg- wrestle a stave into shape and still managing 60 lbs at that short length. Nice.
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Hey, thanks Springbuck! And thanks for all the insight and encouragement!
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I agree the tiller is great.
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Very nice profiles on that one. Great work