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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Badly Bent on March 25, 2017, 08:10:29 am

Title: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Badly Bent on March 25, 2017, 08:10:29 am
Greeting fellow primitive archers. I haven't been around here much lately or posted a bow in a while so thought I'd offer up this crude looking little bow for comment. This came from a stave that as been in my possession for at least 20 years and the bow has been laying around the shop in a roughed out state for a couple years now. I wanted to get something special out of the stave but ended up with this instead. Not a bad bow but nothing special. I hoped to get 45# or better but by the time I got the tiller to an acceptable shape I was at only #40. Thought I would sinew back it but realized after making a mess of things that I was not cut out to be a sinew backing bowyer. ;D  So here it is finished at #40 @ 24", rawhide backed and 49.5" ntn

Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Badly Bent on March 25, 2017, 08:11:25 am
full draw
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Post by: BowEd on March 25, 2017, 08:31:43 am
Very nice tiller on your bow.Crazy nice snake is eye appealing.Like the rawhide color you got on it too.Well it ought to be dry that's for sure then setting in the corner waiting.If I was into making a bendy handled bow that's the tiller I'd want.Sinewing is'nt for everybody.I only use it when fixing or some extreme idea I might have.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 25, 2017, 08:42:41 am
Sweet little bow my friend, sweet. Everything you do to a bow is soooo tasteful. I wish I had that eye you do.
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Post by: Knoll on March 25, 2017, 08:48:36 am
Nice tiller, Mr Greg. Chris said it well.
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Post by: Stick Bender on March 25, 2017, 09:18:08 am
That's a sweet! bow you got there looks pretty special to me congrats  (SH)
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Badly Bent on March 25, 2017, 09:29:40 am
Yes Ed sinewing requires patience that I don't have, rawhide was added because the rings were super thin and even though the back wasn't violated at 49" I wanted some insurance against breakage. The splotchy finish was an attempt to get a look similar to a appaloosa pony.
Thanks Chris
Thanks Mike
Thanks Stick
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: upstatenybowyer on March 25, 2017, 09:30:42 am
The dictionary offers 2 definitions for the word "crude."

#1 in a natural or raw state

#2 constructed in a rudimentary or makeshift way

I love the look of that bow. So, maybe crude as in #1, but certainly not #2.

Awesome job!
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: bjrogg on March 25, 2017, 09:34:05 am
Nice shorty Greg. That's a real nice bend there. Very nice snaky profile and like the rawhide. The way the snaky curves come through the handle looks like might fit a lefty better. Glad to see you got inspired to build and post another sweet badly bent bow.
Bjrogg
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Post by: Whiskeyjet on March 25, 2017, 09:48:41 am
You are sellin yourself short! Looks amazing!
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Post by: khperkins on March 25, 2017, 10:34:44 am
Nice looking shorty.
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Post by: PaulN/KS on March 25, 2017, 10:55:03 am
Very Nice.
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Post by: PNewton on March 25, 2017, 11:16:44 am
Great looking bow Greg. Your bow making style is awesome.
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Post by: TimothyR on March 25, 2017, 11:21:31 am
Great looking stick!  I love everything about it.
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Post by: bubby on March 25, 2017, 12:48:03 pm
You have the coolest eye for finishing a bow Greg plus they shoot great, I'm with pearlie i wish i had your eye for dressing a bow
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Post by: bradsmith2010 on March 25, 2017, 01:22:46 pm
that looks nice,,,bet shoots great (SH)
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Post by: JW_Halverson on March 25, 2017, 01:24:15 pm
Oh yeah, baby!  That's right in my wheelhouse!
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Post by: Aaron H on March 25, 2017, 03:19:38 pm
We've missed you and your simple yet elegant bows Greg. Always top notch work, the tiller and the finish.  :OK
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Post by: simson on March 25, 2017, 03:31:46 pm
Good to have you back, and it was worth the long wait!
I love your work Greg! There some things on every bow that makes it easy to recognize as a Badly Bent Bow.
No need to say something about your tiller skills.
I hope your now more often here than the last time.
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Redhand on March 25, 2017, 03:54:26 pm
Great looking bow Greg, it has a excellent primitive look to my eyes.  I bet its a nice shooter.  I like what you did with the painting on the handle.  Is the handle rawhide also?  Sweet bow!
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Post by: High-Desert on March 25, 2017, 04:09:05 pm
Love that primitive but refined look. Great looking bow!

Eric
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Post by: bushboy on March 25, 2017, 04:30:34 pm
Stunner as usual,nice character,perfect tiller,cool finish!premo!
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Post by: DuBois on March 26, 2017, 12:19:27 am
Never seen one of yours I didn't want for my own. You've really got somethin going!
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Post by: chamookman on March 26, 2017, 03:32:21 am
As always Greg - well done ! Bob
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Post by: rps3 on March 26, 2017, 06:04:24 am
Looks great. Always enjoy seeing your bows.
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Badly Bent on March 26, 2017, 09:59:46 am
BJ - Yes, the handle would suit a left handed shooter well but the string centers perfect at the arrow pass location and cast a
       clean arrow for me shooting right handed. I found out quickly that I had to pay attention and shoot with a bit of a bent
       wrist to avoid string slap due to that snake at the grip area though. ;)
Marlen- Yes, the handle wrap is raw hide. Also put some cork under it at back & belly side to fill out the grip some.

May take it over to a friends house today and shoot with him in his barn, we were going to hit a 3D shoot this weekend but have had almost non stop rain for 2 days now. I'm a bit surprised at how accurately this bow shoots at closer ranges in spite of it's short length and snakey profile. Of course it could be the lower draw weight working better for me or it could be that thing where the most recent bow you've made seems great at first and then becomes somewhat mediocre in your eyes later. :)


Thanks for the kind remarks fellas, very much appreciated.
Greg
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: H Rhodes on March 26, 2017, 10:08:56 am
Nice bow Greg.  I am sure that one will outlast the honeymoon phase.  If that spotted horse coloring doesn't suit you, maybe I can supply some type of reptile skin for it at the Classic.  With no cold weather this year, I am sure we are going to be over run with rattlers.  It looks awesome as is.  It could be hanging out of someone's quiver four hundred years ago!
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Badly Bent on March 26, 2017, 10:22:31 am
Yes Howard this one was telling me snakeskin backing all along but having just done a couple of those I was up for trying something else for a finish. Doesn't mean I can't change my mind later though. Be careful stepping around your yard, I know you have those big timber rattlers thick down there. See ya in about 40 days.
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Redhand on March 26, 2017, 01:55:02 pm
I bet that cork makes for a comfy handle. I need to give it a try, also the stain job you did made that bow look aged. Great job 👍🏽
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Post by: Danzn Bar on March 26, 2017, 02:24:17 pm
Just got back from MoonTree and saw this one...really nice looking snake to it and great tiller. 
DBar
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Post by: Stixnstones on March 26, 2017, 04:38:02 pm
Funny... just got home from moontree too... Bill and I was talkin last nite about how awesome your work is.. and again you put out another awesome bow.
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Post by: osage outlaw on March 26, 2017, 06:12:24 pm
Awesome looking bow Greg.  That thing has some nice wiggles to it. 
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Post by: selfbow joe on March 26, 2017, 06:41:22 pm
Very nice looking bow!
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Sasquatch on March 27, 2017, 09:25:15 am
every bow you make is special, you make things look so real. Im glad you are back.   :BB
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Pappy on March 27, 2017, 09:28:14 am
Beautiful bow, love it . tiller looks great. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: BowEd on March 27, 2017, 10:15:40 am
Greg....Nice rawhide look again on your bow.You prepare your own rawhide too?I was wondering the process you did on that to get the look you wanted.Dyeing the wood underneath etc. maybe first??There's been threads on this I know but wanted to hear from you.
Anyway the way to get that see through look on rawhide.Like clarified calf skin they used to call it.Practically all rawhide I prepare here is from the brain tanning process in the frame as rawhide dehaired using the dry scrape method.Yearlings very thin perfect for rawhide backings.Then the rawhide turns an egg shell white always.No see through.Somewhat but not what I want for backings.I've resoaked the rawhide before and let dry to try to get that clarified look and have come close but not to my satisfaction yet.The scraper brings the nap up off the leather for that fuzzy egg shell white look.During the dry scrape the epidermis is scraped off too.That might have something to do with it.
I've wet scraped epidermis off too after lyeing for hair removal too and it is'nt near as fuzzy then[makes sense] but it's been a long time ago.Maybe that would work better then.
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: wizardgoat on March 27, 2017, 11:40:14 am
This is why you are one of my favourites Greg
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: Badly Bent on March 28, 2017, 07:28:46 am
Thanks again fellas. :)

Ed- No I don't process my own rawhide, this hide was a med./sm. whitetail and fairly thin stuff. I didn't dye the wood under the rawhide, the osage was pretty dark from sitting around the shop for years with the back ring chased. I used 'moccasin brown' leather dye diluted with alcohol and added a little bit of raw umber acrylic paint here and there. I just rubbed the alcohol and dye mix on with a cloth and it shows up splotchy like that. Where I want some darker splotches I dipped a rag with alcohol on it in the umber paint and rubbed it in here and there. Fine steel wool on some areas will help distress it too. Also sprayed a bit of shellac on then rubbed more of the color in again. I like to get some color or pattern down, shellac lightly, allow to dry, then rub some with fine steel wool. After that I rub some more of the color mix into the bow for more depth before adding the final coats of clear finish.
To be honest I often screw up trying to get the look I want and then I'll just start rubbing colors on and off until I'm satisfied with the look. ;)
 
Heres one more pic of the dye/paint on rawhide, (when you see it up close it looks like some thing a child did) ;D
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Post by: Blackcoyote on March 28, 2017, 02:45:55 pm
good looking bow Greg - hope all is well. -Drew
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Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 29, 2017, 01:48:57 am
Looks like a little killer with a beautiful tiller  8)
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Post by: MWirwicki on March 29, 2017, 08:52:24 am
As usual Greg, a very nice looking bow.  I wish that I had your artful eye.  You could make a compound bow look primitive.
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty
Post by: RatherBinTheWoods on March 29, 2017, 05:11:24 pm
Love this. Shape, colour, tiller all seem to have come together into something pretty special to my eyes. I can't get Osage but I have some short yew staves I'm looking forward to playing with. Hope they come out even half as good as this one.
Title: Re: osage and rawhide shorty (found a matching accessory for the bow)
Post by: Badly Bent on April 26, 2017, 03:47:53 pm
Searching the big action site a few days ago and ran across this appaloosa bone handled pocket knife to go along with this bow. Came in the mail yesterday, gotta accessorize the gear. :D
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Post by: IdahoMatt on April 27, 2017, 01:51:21 pm
Cool looking serpent.
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Post by: Stixnstones on April 27, 2017, 03:19:39 pm
Everytime a see s badly bent post i get excited to see what ya did... and yet another beautiful bow
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Post by: Del the cat on April 27, 2017, 03:33:29 pm
Woo, yup, that's real cool :)
Del