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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: TrevorM on April 18, 2017, 05:23:20 pm

Title: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: TrevorM on April 18, 2017, 05:23:20 pm
So I sort of started a discussion about arrow speed, and the fastest point when shooting. I said I believed an arrow would be going fastest at the moment it leaves the string. Someone else (who's fairly knowledgeable) stated that it would be at a point after that. He didn't really state why he thought that was the case. So I figured I'd see what you guys thought about it and maybe start an argument discussion here too  ;D
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: DC on April 18, 2017, 05:32:14 pm
When it leaves the string. After that there is nothing pushing it and it starts to slow down.
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: EdwardS on April 18, 2017, 06:37:13 pm
After it stops fishtailing off the string.  Otherwise it's fanning the feathers from side to side catching air.
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: aaron on April 18, 2017, 07:09:13 pm
fastest at the moment it leaves the string. After that it cannot accelerate (except perhaps due to gravity or high winds).
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: mullet on April 18, 2017, 08:50:44 pm
I say it's fastest as soon as it straightens from paradox
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: TrevorM on April 19, 2017, 09:25:41 am
I had considered Paradox, but I'd only thought of it like a spring which would only increase speed if it had something to push against. I guess the fanning action could cause some thrust, although I'm not sure it'd be enough to overcome the drag and actually increase the speed. 
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 19, 2017, 09:32:16 am
Off the string. Unless you are shooting downhill.
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on April 19, 2017, 10:39:27 am
I can see where one might think that some sort of momentum or acceleration would carry the arrow to a higher speed after it's left the bow but this is just a misunderstanding of physics. Once the string is no longer acting on the arrow the speed is at the maximum it's going to be, the only forces acting on the arrow at that point are gravity and wind drag. Same with a baseball, the instant the ball leaves the pitches fingers it's going the fastest it will go, which is kind of impressive if you think about it because a ball clocked at 90mph would mean that at the moment of release the pitchers hand was moving faster than 90mph.
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 19, 2017, 11:07:14 am
And exactly why arrow speed is measured right off the bow when shot through a chronograph.
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: steve b. on April 19, 2017, 04:14:04 pm
Kinda like sprinters.  "they" say that the fastest man in the world can only accelerate for about 10 yds., afterward he is slowing.  So when you watch a sprint race you are not seeing one guy accelerating faster than the others; you are seeing one guy decelerating less than the others.  With an arrow, a bullet, whatever projectile, it slows immediately unless it is powered.
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: Zuma on April 20, 2017, 06:03:23 pm
This is why I always rotate my arms while releasing. (SH) (SH) >:D
Zuma
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: TrevorM on April 21, 2017, 09:31:14 am
This is why I always rotate my arms while releasing. (SH) (SH) >:D
Zuma

You should blow on the fletchings too so it's got a good tail wind   (W ;D
Title: Re: Arrow speed, what do you guys think
Post by: loon on April 22, 2017, 03:53:12 pm
fastest at the moment it leaves the string. After that it cannot accelerate (except perhaps due to gravity or high winds).

This. It'll hit better when it's going straighter, but won't be faster..


it's physics