Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Zuma on June 13, 2017, 09:35:29 pm
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Some niffty stufff they left for me.
Just for starters.
Zuma
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great mueseum! The axe head bottom left is very nice!
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WOW - Cool (A) :OK ! Bob
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Thanks guys, I have a lot more.
Zuma
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Nice collection, Zuma. many of your artifacts look similar to ones I found in Coastal SC many years ago.
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I only have a few from SC Pat but they are very
similar to ones I find east of the Blue Ridge in VA.
The cool stone that looks like awheel is from eastern
SC I think it was a spindle cap? Also a notched banner stone
green stone gorget and broke shield banner.
Zuma
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Very cool Zuma, when I show my cousin he's gonna want to come visit you. He has a nice collection of mostly local stuff but small compared to yours.
Bjrogg
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a very nice collection, indeed. thanks for posting
Hans
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Very cool Zuma, when I show my cousin he's gonna want to come visit you. He has a nice collection of mostly local stuff but small compared to yours.
Bjrogg
No problem BJ but the collecting is no where like it used to be. No-till and all.
Thanks Hans I have more. Not to mention the pottery. Perhaps a new thread for pottery.
Here are some bannerstone preforms they stay together better than when the hole is drilled.
Two greenstone axes
Zuma
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Nice collection
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Thanks Joe
About thirty years worth ???
A cerimonial pc from AK with some broken gorgets and banner stones.
A VA celt and 2 from NJ
Zuma
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I know what your saying Zuma. We use to plow and till our fields several times, plant in garden conditions with very little crop residue. Now we never plow and leave plenty of residue on top. We plant cover crops to protect the soil from wind and rain erosion. Good for the ground and wildlife, not so much for looking for artifacts. Hard to even see the ground most of the time.
Bjrogg
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Yep as muc h as I miss the artifacting it's a good trade.
13 tons of soil an acre were being sent to a delta somewhere.
Just look at Grand Isle LA.
These are unusual stone tools
Top left-plumet FL then a small one. Maybe a pendant NJ
center are chisel ended pebbles ( for insising pottery?) NJ
A chunky stone from AL
A jasper end scraper, SAW from TX
bottom right may be Viking. Found in an attic LOL
2-- some more celts. Top left is double bit
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Just wondering Zuma, what are you going to do with your collection when your time is up? Most of us just have "stuff" that can be disposed of easily but you have special stuff. Museum maybe?
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Just wondering Zuma, what are you going to do with your collection when your time is up? Most of us just have "stuff" that can be disposed of easily but you have special stuff. Museum maybe?
I am going to hire a Cessna and drop the stuff randomly across the US landscape.
Zuma >:D
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Cool, give us something to look for and confuse the hell out of the archaeologists ;D ;D ;D
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Either that or drop it all in about a 1/4 mile area near a good campsite, or hunting point >:D!
Hawkdancer
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I've got a Cessna Zuma
Bjrogg
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Good ideas guys but bj I would bet we would
not leave the air space over your farm. >:D
Zuma
Some grooved stone hammers and some pestels
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Yup your probably right Zuma that is a fantastic collection sir.
Bjrogg
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That's one heck of a collection Don.
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Thank you good buddy. I hope I see you soon.
I found this mortar with three pestle stones in
a NC peanut field
Zuma
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Some grooved stone hammers and some pestels
Pretty curious image
It looks like the grooves where made by hitting the stone several times with another implement rather than grinding
wonder why the used that technique
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Glis, Pecking removes more material quicker. Used as an
intermediate stage when the final goal is polishing.
Here are various stone tools. Scrapers, saw, possible
potters tools, pendant, Chunky stone and a piece
from my buddies attic that may be Viking not abo(hole)
Zuma
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Zuma my mom found a stone once on the beach. It was kinda flat a circular. It had a perfect hole in it similar to the one you just showed. No one seems to know what happened to it. It was one thing I really would have liked to have gotten when my mom passed. Always wondered what it was. Wish I had a picture of it. This hole didn't have any tapper.
Bjrogg
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BJ
Your stone is the umbilical we hope will never get broken.
Thank you for letting me express my thoughts in this way.
Zuma
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Amazing collection Zuma.
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I totally agree Beadman. You know that you are blessed when the universe
presents you with such magnificent treasure. And also allows you to share
it with folks like you all :)
Zuma
These points are from individual sites.
Zuma
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I hunted artifacts for a lot of my early years and came to the conclusion that most of the points we find around village sites are failures that were cast aside, they are much too crudely knapped.
I found a few points with no association to village or camp sites that were as perfectly knapped as what we see from today's best hobby knappers. I suspect these points were in actual use when they were lost.
It doesn't make sense for an early hunter to risk his success on a poorly knapped, dull point like we find in abundance at plowed village sites.
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I think you are seeing things that way Eric but remember, most points were made at sites so there are rejects and exhausted points that are swapped out for new ones and of course modern equipment that does a number on all artifacts. The type of material available to the folks, makes a major difference in point construction as well. I agree that a point lost afield has a better chance of being most proper.
Interesting observation Eric
Zuma
Here are some from a camp site where there was virtually no reduction, It was done 20 miles back down the vally.
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Very nice collection Don. Thanks for posting.
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My pleasure Brother. I know the respect you have for these things.
It's unfortunate how collecting has taken a big hit lately. Laws, no till etc.
I was blessed back in the day to shaken to my spiritual core when first seeing
then holding these relics sent my way. The energy if phenomenal. Even today.
The bify appears in the Indian Artifact Magizine 81 I think.
Small end scrappers