Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: loefflerchuck on June 19, 2017, 11:59:55 pm
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I know I have posted this type of bow before, but this one has a slightly modified tiller and a longer full draw. True to the Ishi style in almost every way. Tips are slightly more narrow and although it does bend throughout the bow. The handle and tips bend less than near handle section. For performance reasons of course.
Started with a perfect juniper stave with no flaws. This wide thin bow this long took between 2.5 and 3 oz of sinew to get a 3 layer backing. The bow was finished with vinegar steel wool treatment before final sanding with fine grit to get the right look. I felt accurate giving it a shellac finish since Ishi used it when he made his later bows. Handle is brain tanned deer. I made a sinew string for it, but the string in the photos is B50 endless. Maintains 3.75" reflex after shooting.
I copied Ishi's otter quiver minus the incised designs. The arrows are the first shoot arrows I used a spine tester on. I sanded the shafts until I got all of them around 45-48#. The mainshafts are 28.5" long to match full draw. Took a lot of work to get the right shoots and keep them strait. Both the main shafts and fore-shafts are dogwood. I know Ishi used dogwood but I think he only used it for the fore-shafts. I copied a arrow from TBB V4. One of the arrows he made later in life to match a 28" draw. The points are antique glass. The best chert point was made by Jackcrafty. One iron point.
The bow shoots great. Like all this style mas very little stack. Could probably take a bit more bend, but I want a long life and a smooth shooter. My draw is 26" but it testing this bow the 28" draw makes me more upright and did not hurt my accuracy.
Thanks for looking
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The only problem with the 28" draw for me is I had my mouth open in all 3 full draw photos. Arrow paint is red ocher and laundry blueing mixed with charcoal and sap.
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Full draw
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That's a sweet looking set! Great job! Cheers- Brendan
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That's awesome, I like everything about it. Sinew Job looks mighty fine too! (-P
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Very nice setup there. Cool to see you "copy" the old artifacts, right down to arrowheads and painting the arrows. Great job.
Kyle
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Beautiful bend, very nice job on that one. :) Pappy
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Everything looks awesome. That must have been a lot of work and I'm glad to know that it was all worth if. Congrats for sure!
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Wow that is a really beautiful matching set!
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Beautiful. Amazing work.
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That is some awesome work. I look forward to your posts. That set looks like it could have been in the hands of a California hunter 500 years ago. I appreciate your attention to detail. Ishi would be proud.
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Nice complete set. :OK
Bjrogg
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We don't see your projects often enough. Outstanding!
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Great looking bow! What's the overall length?
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I really like that Chuck.
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Stellar tiller for that bow Chuck. All around excellence.
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Another slick stick Chuck. I think you have a firm grasp on this design!
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Great looking set up that anyone would be proud of! SS
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Thanks everyone. Tip to tip 59"
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really nice, my favorite style, bet it shoots great,, nice arrows too,, (AT)
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Really nice
Awesome
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Beatiful matching replica set!
I really like the fd pic, even with mouth open, its a perfect bend.
How do apply laundry blueing, in a water solution? I heard about it but never got my hands on it - would like to try it on a bow.
Another Q: When do you do the wrapping at the nocks, when sinew layers has cured and before bending the bow?
I really admire your work, your replicas are museum pieces for sure.
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Nice set, Chuck. I bet Ishi would be proud! :OK
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awesome bow... just about what I plan using the great wood that I got from you. What are the dimensions that you used?
thanks for sharing...
Bob
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Absolutely Awsome bow Chuck !
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I see what you mean with the full draw. Looks like you are saying...ahhhh, and well you should. Fine looking bow.
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Stellar replication of an Ishi bow Chuck.I'm sure he'd smile seeing it.
Sometime I need to get up to Chatfield,Minnesota about 5 hours north of me.There's a Pope and Young Club/St.Charles museum of bow hunting there.150 years of bow hunting history.It's got an original Ishi bow in it.
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Very nice set.
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wow, that is a clean piece of juniper :o
I love looking at the unstrung profile and then that full draw. That's a lot of bow in 58" Nicely done.
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Thanks again everyone.
Brad, one of my favorites too. Perfect design for juniper and sinew
Simson, yes if you get the powder blueing you just add a little water. Some blueing is already in a liquid form. I have applied just the liquid to bows and arrows and it works just like any other dye. It tends to run a little so for detailed arrow crests I make it thick and mix a little hide glue or pitch. As for the sinew wrap, yes and yes. I learned long ago if you wrap the same time as the sinew is put on, the backing shrinks much more than the wrap and it's loose and ugly.
PatB and Beadman, Thanks. I hope so
Bob, your stick is from the very same tree as this. I had to return to this tree 3 times before I could bring myself to cut such a perfect, beautiful tree. It will live on as many bows. Just under 1 7/8 widest point of the bow.
Haha! Maybe your right Marc
Carson, I cut maybe 1 to 2 juniper trees a year. They grow everywhere here. I wait till I can find the perfect one. Juniper and sinew are capable of so much more bend than this. These days I want to get a lot out of the combo, but also want a long life for the bow.
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That's a beautiful bow and arrow set. I always enjoy seeing you post some of your work.
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Chuck,
You never fail to take us back in time with your primitive bows...Nice work all around on everything...I can appreciate your sinew work...
Don
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Excellent work Chuck. As said earlier, great attention to detail. The sinew looks well done also, and I like how you left it bare looking. Very clean
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Love the old school primitive set Chuck! I"m sure Ishi would be impressed as well as flattered!
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Very nice bow!!
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Uhm... WOW! This is such a sweet replica! - OneBow