Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Eric Krewson on July 16, 2017, 12:40:39 pm
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I had never seen these in my woods before this extra wet year, pretty sure they are chanterelles. They have gotten a little old since I first noticed them.
What say you, mushroom experts?
(http://i.imgur.com/KmkGR5Q.jpg)
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As near as I can tell it is called a "smooth chanterelle".
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/cantharellus_lateritius.html
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I hesitate to offer an opinion as, I think we are about 5000 miles apart. good find if it is a chanterelle.
some of the fun in mushroom hunting is the variety found, I often find "new" varieties when weather patterns change from year to year.
Have you performed a spore print? it's easy and offers additional info for an ID.
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I would say chanterelle as well. It's a highly desirable and delicious edible wild mushroom. Those are my favorites to pair with scrambled eggs or in omelets. It likes to grow under oaks especially and usually returns to the same area from year to year when late summer hits. If you look where you found it and notice a lot of white "mold" in the leaf litter, that's the mycelium (vegetative mushroom growth) . When the conditions are right (usually a good rainfall) the mushrooms sprout. The mushroom is basically the fruit/seeds of the mycelium.
The one in your pic is past it's prime. Mushrooms only last a day or two before they get infested with fungus gnat larvae. If you look at the cut stem and see lots of holes or a complete void, the larvae have taken over. All mushrooms(even store bought) have a couple larvae in them. A quick soak in salt water will kill them and usually it flushes them out of the mushroom as well.
If you're gonna get into mushroom hunting, I'll recommend the audubon's field guide to north american mushrooms. I would also suggest sticking to the mushrooms that are easy to identify with no dangerous look-a-likes for the first couple years. The list of beginner mushrooms is easy to find with some searching.
The first and best lesson I learned about eating wild mushrooms is that "even experts die". When in doubt, throw it out.
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X2 but not from an expert. A mushroom lover but seldom an eater.
Zuma
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When in doubt, throw it out.
a good word to the wise. I have seen psilocybin hunters consume all sorts of LBM's. Not a recommended practice.
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Eric,
it is a chantrelle, I have picked and eaten them for more than twenty years.
Chantrelle's have no gills on the underside, they are solid and have ridges that start as one ridge and then fork into two. Chantrelles also smell a bit like apricots.
Yours is past prime.
Kevin
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I looked at a bunch of the chanterelle identification videos on youtube, my mushrooms met all the criteria for a smooth chanterelle, not one characteristic was found for a toxic jack-o-lantern.
I looked deeper into my woods and found these in abundance under a row of oak trees.
Here is a fresher one;
(http://i.imgur.com/xXaQ3xE.jpg)
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I will rarely identify a mushroom for someone based on a photo, but I'm confident that those are indeed chanterelles.
The most common look alike is Omphalotus illudens, or the Jack O'lantern which is poisonous, but they grow in clusters as a parasite on the root wood of dying trees. The also have true gills underneath. Like willie mentioned, chanterelles have "false"gills that run decurrent down the stem.
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Look tasty from here. nice find
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Jack-O-Lanterns have an unique tell tale characteristic. They give off a faint glow when in complete darkness, hence the name. They also tend to grow on rotting wood or stumps unlike chanterelles , but not always.
LBM's (little brown mushrooms) just aren't worth the risk. A proper ID is really difficult and a vast majority of them are highly toxic. If you're looking for the magic kind of "mushies" just follow the sacred cows around and check the pies they leave behind. The chance for any other type of mushroom to be growing there is virtually nil.
Terrance McKenna had an interesting theory about the evolution of man being closely tied to magic mushrooms. I'll try to sum it up in a nutshell. Basically the climate was changing the jungles of Africa into grass land, and primitive man was forced out of the trees and onto the prairie. He began to hunt and follow the herds of herbivores, which led to the discovery of the hallucinogenic mushrooms they kept finding in the wake of their new prey. It was during this same period that man's brain increased in size, complex language began to emerge, cave paintings began to originate, and major advances in primitive technologies occurred. It's quite humorous to think that we might owe our intellectual superiority to eating a fungus that grows on cow turds. Gives a whole new meaning to sh** for brains if you really stop and think about it.
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It's quite humorous to think that we might owe our intellectual superiority to eating a fungus that grows on cow turds.
Interesting thought DK, I might have to read some Terrance McKenna.
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Yes he dubbed it Stoned Ape theory. Nice of you to mention it Dakota Kid. McKenna was a true intellectual and I owe a lot of my understandings about the world to him.
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I noticed another mushroom growing beside my woodpile yesterday, I wondered what kind it was and if it was edible. I took a spore print and did a little research and found it was an old man of the woods mushroom and and it is edible.
(http://i.imgur.com/GbNMLLE.jpg)
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Looks like you are well on your way to some good finds, Eric. Compared to the market sold varieties, some of the edibles are very tasty, others have delicate flavors that complement a nice dish. About the only thing that can be said for the store sold kinds is that they keep well. Some of the treasures in my neck of the woods, need to be harvested and consumed the same day.
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Strobilomyces floccopus. Not my favorite to eat, but definitely one of my favorite Latin names to say! :D
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I sauteed my chanterelles and had them on a big deer burger. I had never tasted anything but store bought mushrooms so my first taste of the chanterelles was that they were different, by the time I got to the end of my burger I really like them
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the edible mushrooms of cantarellus and bolutus genus are usually easy to recognize and safe to eat however I strongly recommend you to be very very cautious while collecting mushrooms
I know i sound like old grunt but you cannot trust books or internet pictures alone to collect mushrooms you dont know
It's simply too easy to make a mistake and there are so many poisonous effects you'd be fascinated
Many of this poisons wont kill you right away. They will cause permanent damages to your organs even in small portions.
Dont collect any mushroom you're not 100% sure is good
Small mushrooms are much more likely to be confused
Never pick allready severed mushrooms
You may be damaged even if perfectly edible mushrooms are old and/or improperly stored
While collecting it's good practice to avoid mixing mushrooms of sure edibility with those you need to investigate
Not all poisons will disappear when the mushroom is cooked
If you're wise enough not to trust yourself be even more cautious when listening to other suggestions
So many people claiming great mushrooms knowledge, so many poisoning cases every year
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the edible mushrooms of cantarellus and bolutus genus are usually easy to recognize and safe to eat however I strongly recommend you to be very very cautious while collecting mushrooms
I know i sound like old grunt but you cannot trust books or internet pictures alone to collect mushrooms you dont know
It's simply too easy to make a mistake and there are so many poisonous effects you'd be fascinated
Many of this poisons wont kill you right away. They will cause permanent damages to your organs even in small portions.
Dont collect any mushroom you're not 100% sure is good
Small mushrooms are much more likely to be confused
Never pick allready severed mushrooms
You may be damaged even if perfectly edible mushrooms are old and/or improperly stored
While collecting it's good practice to avoid mixing mushrooms of sure edibility with those you need to investigate
Not all poisons will disappear when the mushroom is cooked
If you're wise enough not to trust yourself be even more cautious when listening to other suggestions
So many people claiming great mushrooms knowledge, so many poisoning cases every year
Completely agreed. My dad took care of an entire family (kids, parents, grandparents) from Laos who died from eating Amanita phalloides (the Death Cap). First I learned all the deadly ones, then the poisonous ones, then the edible ones. A great thing to do is see if your area has a local mushroom club. Ours has professors of mycology from Cornell among its members and they take folks out for forays and teach them to identify mushrooms hands-on.
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In Croatia we have a famous and very known mushroom expert who wrote a series of helpful books with tips how to know which species of mushroom is what you see. I have couple of these at home and they are practical for taking them on the mushroom finding tip.
Me and my dad mostly collect those from Boletus family.
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I have a book of every mushroom found in North America with colored photos and descriptions about different stages of eating certain mushrooms. like cramps, puking and,, not sure but be careful. ::) The only 'scrooms I've ever found in our climate that I trusted eating is Chantrelles. They are considered a host mushroom because you usually find them in moist to wet areas under Water Oaks. Ideal habitat in the Deep South.
The last time I hunted the Alexacarri Plantation I found a bunch. By the time we finished picking them we had a little over seven pounds.
By the way, at the time, wholesale price was around $90 a pound.
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We once had this dude from California at our mushroom club and he told tales of the Giant chanterelle aka Cantharellus californicus. I'd love to find a few of these bad boys with a going rate of $90 a pound!
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imagine the worms inside that mushroom.
Anacondas
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