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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on September 09, 2017, 09:13:35 am

Title: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: simson on September 09, 2017, 09:13:35 am
Long time ago I made a 5 curve bow out of a pair of nice, snakey and very old osage sister billets. All curves were steamed in, except the central at the handle which was induced as a backset splice. The greyish brown color was already in the wood. That bow came out a bit long and felt sluggish, I wasn’t really pleased with the result, so I put it away and it was laying in my rack for years.

Recently I decided to go ahead with that stick. I shortened each limb, cut away the handle splice, steamed in sharp statics instead of roundish working recurves, stiffened the levers with inserted horn wedges, steamed out the deflex into reflex,  put on homemade td sleeves and retillered the bow. On lower limb the fade was too thin, I glued on a cut off from that bow.

The design of that bow had changed completely.

Now it’s a fine shooter without any shock and looks much better, at least for my eyes. It’s now symmetrical, limbs have exact same length, ntn is 60”. The handle is goat leather with an accent strip of stingray leather, arrow pass is also stingray. That bow is not dyed, this is the natural color.

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-1-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-2-von-25.jpg)

Steaming out deflex
(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-3-von-25.jpg)

Piking
(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-4-von-25.jpg)

Tried the opposite angle, next time I go ’normal‘ (steepest side of upper limb on the back) again
(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-5-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-6-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-7-von-25.jpg)

Lower limb got a glued on piece to match the sleeve
(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-8-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-9-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-10-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-11-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-12-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-13-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-14-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-15-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-16-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-17-von-25.jpg)

The stringray strip is sanded and gaps filled with white mineral pigment + glue
(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-18-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-19-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-20-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-21-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-22-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-23-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-24-von-25.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/93-Osage-snaky-transformer-td-25-von-25.jpg)









Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: upstatenybowyer on September 09, 2017, 04:10:56 pm
Simson, you are a problem-solving, horn-splicing, billet-joining, always-thinking, never-disappointing, bow-making machine! Love everything, but my favorite pic is the one from the front against the tree that really shows off the snakiness.
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: osage outlaw on September 09, 2017, 05:07:09 pm
Very impressive work. 
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: bradsmith2010 on September 09, 2017, 06:28:15 pm
thanks for sharing, very very beautiful,,  (SH)
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: Steve Milbocker on September 09, 2017, 08:34:23 pm
Beautiful work as always Simon. I always look forward to see what your next creation will be.
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: Del the cat on September 10, 2017, 04:21:03 am
Wow :o... I've just fallen off my chair.
Masterpiece.
Del
(I like seeing your work, it stops me getting too cocky about my stuff  :) )
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Post by: gfugal on September 10, 2017, 05:41:34 am
You're a master man. I love seeing what you make
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: GlisGlis on September 10, 2017, 06:16:37 am
Man. Even your handwriting looks like a calligraphic masterpiece.
I'm starting hating you  ;D
incredible bow  :OK
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: bjrogg on September 10, 2017, 07:35:34 am
You never disappoint Simson. I'd say Jeff pretty well summed it up. I'm just guessing this was possibly a BOM  sitting there you weren't really happy with that it could be a BOM again. This time you're gonna like it. I love the pictures of the two limbs side by side.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: SLIMBOB on September 10, 2017, 08:46:24 am
Sweet looking Simon!
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: selfbow joe on September 10, 2017, 10:44:42 am
Very cool looking bow. Love it
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Post by: Hans H on September 10, 2017, 02:13:27 pm
that`s a great bow, wow
Hans
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Post by: Will H on September 10, 2017, 05:01:45 pm
This one goes up there in my top favorite bows I've seen from you Simon! Very very cool!!
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: BowEd on September 10, 2017, 06:32:11 pm
A very beautiful but useful looking rig to carry with you anywhere you want.Nice work simon.Good pictures also.
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: Hamish on September 10, 2017, 07:00:27 pm
Wow!
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Post by: Aaron H on September 10, 2017, 08:39:55 pm
Very cool Simon, what an incredible bow. I really like the horn spliced into the tips.
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: simson on September 10, 2017, 10:25:37 pm
Wow :o... I've just fallen off my chair.
Masterpiece.
Del
(I like seeing your work, it stops me getting too cocky about my stuff  :) )

I never believe a cat does fall off a chair!
(in fact, you're one of my favorite bowyers; just look at the link listing on my site)
This one goes up there in my top favorite bows I've seen from you Simon! Very very cool!!

This one goes up there in my top favorite bows I've seen from you Simon! Very very cool!!

Will, I know you're the man for snaky sticks and some of yours are in my list also!

Thank you all gentlemen for your comments!
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: Pappy on September 11, 2017, 05:11:28 am
Beautiful bow, nice rework on that one. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: leonwood on September 11, 2017, 07:14:49 am
Wow you really did give that one a second life! Looks really nice with the snaky shape and I love the white you used to lighten up the ray skin. Now I really feel the need to have a go at a takedown :laugh:
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Post by: mikekeswick on September 11, 2017, 07:45:53 am
Now that is pretty sweet :)
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Post by: Hrothgar on September 11, 2017, 08:36:22 am
Nice work, really eye-catching curves too!
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Post by: DuBois on September 11, 2017, 09:18:16 am
I love it!...again!
Title: Re: Osage static td 'transformer' 48#/28” (No. 93) >>pic heavy<<
Post by: simson on September 11, 2017, 11:20:37 am
Let me add something about the td sleeve, maybe someone is interested in:

This are homemade sleeves from a pipe with 42mm diam.. I had no matching pipe handy for an inner tube, so I used the same pipe, cut out a strip of about 4mm lengthwise and bent it again to a circle. Both parts were bent then the vice. In this case I cut the inner tube in an 45° angle, of course the wood in the outer sleeve is also cut in that angle. This little trick works great!

For glueing in epoxi is best, because of gap filling.
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Post by: Dvshunter on September 11, 2017, 09:03:16 pm
What i wouldnt give for an apprenticeship  under your teaching.  Thanks for posting!
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Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on September 11, 2017, 09:42:10 pm
Simon I do believe you could make a bow out of anything. If you lived in the states I would mail you some old hand split tobacco sticks and I bet they would become some of the nicest bows we've ever seen. Great job!
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Post by: Lehtis on September 13, 2017, 06:23:45 am
Great work & bow!
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Post by: Bob Barnes on September 13, 2017, 07:49:33 am
outstanding!  I think I like everything about it...and I am picky.  Thanks for sharing.  I also thank you for the sleeve trick, as I was going to ask how you made it.
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Post by: simson on September 13, 2017, 08:24:06 am
outstanding!  I think I like everything about it...and I am picky.  Thanks for sharing.  I also thank you for the sleeve trick, as I was going to ask how you made it.

Bob look here: http://primitive-bows.com/homemade-take-down-sleeves/



Thanks folks!
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Post by: mullet on September 14, 2017, 10:45:28 am
WOW! It keeps getting better. I really enjoy see your bows.
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Post by: H Rhodes on September 15, 2017, 03:39:32 am
Amazing work.  Thanks for posting.  I always look forward to seeing your creations.