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Title: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: simson on September 16, 2017, 05:47:03 am
It was a hard struggle to tiller this bow, lot of reflex and a good load of curves. The reflex is not spread along the limbs, but comes from kinks in the fades and the limbs are more or less straight. The kinks in lower and upper limb hadn't the same amount, so one was heated out a bit the other heated in a bit to get them better matching. The snaky wiggles caused optical illusions, the crown on the back is not homogenous and sometimes the peak isn't in the middle of the limb and last but not least the rings have changing width – causing “wrong” tapering out on the belly upper limb.

But finally got here done, made middle ridges at the fades, mild HLD at the middle portion and tapers into triangular shaped outers. This bow is asymmetrical and has high positive tiller (still different angles at fades). She got nice nearly transparent cow horn at the tips and arrow pass inlay. The handle is a bit unusual, but there wasn't more wood to play with. First thought was to glue on a piece, but after shooting a while I found the handle comfortable and now it is what it is.
After all she was in the fuming pipe for 6 days, and then white earth pigments are rubbed in.




ntn: 60”
max w: 40mm
mass: 514 grams


08”: 08,5
10”: 15,9   (+ 7,4)
12”: 21,3   (+ 5,4)
14”: 26,8   (+ 5,5)
16”: 31,6   (+ 4,8)
18”: 36,4   (+ 4,8)
20”: 41,2   (+ 4,8)
22”: 46,0   (+ 4,8)
24”: 50,9   (+ 4,9)
26”: 56,2   (+ 5,3)
28”: 61,8   (+ 5,6)

This pic shows the rubbing in of white earth pigments with a solution of different oils.
(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-1-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-2-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-3-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-4-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-5-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-6-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-7-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-8-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-9-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-10-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-11-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-12-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-13-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-14-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-15-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-16-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-17-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-18-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-19-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-20-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-21-von-22.jpg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Osage-fumed-flattie-22-von-22.jpg)

Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: bjrogg on September 16, 2017, 06:12:06 am
Nice job on a Very Challenging stave Simson. I've got one at brace that doesn't have as much snake side to side but that same wonky uneven reflex in the fades. Really messing with my head. I'll get back to it come winter, but I'm sure it'll never look that nice. Once again, very impressive and inspirational. Might be just the kick in the butt I need to finish my challenge bow.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Steve Milbocker on September 16, 2017, 06:23:11 am
Outstanding Simon,as always!
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Stoner on September 16, 2017, 06:54:30 am
Great craftsmanship, snakier the better. John
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Aaron H on September 16, 2017, 07:25:41 am
Beautiful bow Simon, and as usual, wonderfully photographed
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Will H on September 16, 2017, 07:26:04 am
Love it!  :OK
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: upstatenybowyer on September 16, 2017, 07:38:26 am
Well done my friend.  (-S

What are you using for finish? It really allows the natural beauty of the grain to come through.
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: FilipT on September 16, 2017, 07:44:34 am
Very cool, "chocolate looking" bow! Where do you get osages in Germany, Simon?
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: BowEd on September 16, 2017, 08:30:39 am
Beautiful finished bow and profile out of a difficult stave simon. :OK
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: bushboy on September 16, 2017, 09:06:48 am
Stellar work as normal! :BB
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Badger on September 16, 2017, 09:55:37 am
  Good looking bow, beautiful color!
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: DC on September 16, 2017, 11:16:54 am
I like it a lot!! ;D
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Marc St Louis on September 16, 2017, 11:33:18 am
Very nice indeed
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Hans H on September 16, 2017, 01:52:17 pm
very good craftmanship!, I`m always surprised what comes out from such a stick if a guy like you play whith it
congrats, Hans
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: wizardgoat on September 16, 2017, 02:00:23 pm
It's bows like this that got me into this stuff! Great looking bow
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: simson on September 16, 2017, 03:17:30 pm
Nice job on a Very Challenging stave Simson. I've got one at brace that doesn't have as much snake side to side but that same wonky uneven reflex in the fades. Really messing with my head. I'll get back to it come winter, but I'm sure it'll never look that nice. Once again, very impressive and inspirational. Might be just the kick in the butt I need to finish my challenge bow.
Bjrogg

Yep, come on we're waiting for your challenge stick  8) 8) 8)

Well done my friend.  (-S

What are you using for finish? It really allows the natural beauty of the grain to come through.

Jeff, I'm using a home brewed solution of beeeswax, dammar, turpentine, karnauba wax,and some other ingredients.
When I do the next mixing I will write down the recipe.

Very cool, "chocolate looking" bow! Where do you get osages in Germany, Simon?

States and Hungary

All others:
Thank you very much guys!
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: bradsmith2010 on September 16, 2017, 03:30:33 pm
I would like to shoot a deer with that bow,, great photos too,, congrats,,, (-S
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: selfbow joe on September 16, 2017, 08:35:45 pm
Very nice looking bow
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: jeffp51 on September 16, 2017, 10:55:33 pm
Simson's main purpose in life is to make the rest of us feel inadequate in our bow building skills.  Beautiful work!
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: leonwood on September 18, 2017, 08:38:01 am
Oh that is another looker! Love the dark color with the white pigment. Awesome to see the weird braced shape go to perfect full draw!
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Philipp A on September 18, 2017, 08:54:33 am
What a challenging stave! Looks really awesome with perfect tiller and beautiful details and colour! Great work Simon
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: rps3 on September 18, 2017, 11:25:45 am
62# at 28" looking like that has to be a real zipper. Beautiful too.
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: simson on September 18, 2017, 11:27:10 am
Thanks folks, I'm glad you like her.

@ Jeffp51: I just give back what I got from this great community! I don't want to offend anyone.
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Pappy on September 19, 2017, 02:43:52 am
Beautiful bow simson as usual, man you are closing in on 100 , can't wait to see what you come up with for that one. ;) :) :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: sieddy on September 19, 2017, 03:30:32 am
Outstanding bow!  :D
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: simson on September 20, 2017, 12:59:33 am
Beautiful bow simson as usual, man you are closing in on 100 , can't wait to see what you come up with for that one. ;) :) :)
 Pappy

 ... of course I stop with No. 99  8)
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: ntvbowyer1969 on September 25, 2017, 06:38:25 pm
Just a beauty of a stave!! and that finish work with the colors rubbed in is outstanding..Great pics also. Im still working on the photo part...lol
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: jeffp51 on September 25, 2017, 07:31:34 pm


@ Jeffp51: I just give back what I got from this great community! I don't want to offend anyone.

Believe me, there is absolutely no offense taken.  I love your work and I steal your ideas as much as I can.  I dream of matching your skill someday when I have more time to hone my skills.  I hope sometime when I am in Germany to come and see your work in person.

Alles Gute
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Carson (CMB) on September 26, 2017, 11:35:51 am
What an amazing example of wood bowyery.  Beautiful in every way.
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: joachimM on September 27, 2017, 03:45:38 pm
Every new bow, you just keep on amazing me. It's a treat to look at these pictures, skillfully photographed as always.
We have some very endowed bowyers in this community, but you keep on moving the benchmark for all of us.
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: Sidewinder on September 27, 2017, 11:46:48 pm
Wow wow wow.  Your a genius Simson. Absolutley amazing.
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: SLIMBOB on September 28, 2017, 07:43:43 pm
Wow!  So good in every aspect!
Title: Re: Osage snaky flattie with huge reflex 62#/28” (No.94)
Post by: simson on September 29, 2017, 02:02:57 am
Thanks again folks, I appreciate every comment!