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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Buckeye Guy on September 25, 2017, 05:41:35 pm

Title: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Buckeye Guy on September 25, 2017, 05:41:35 pm
I have no clue where to even start
This tuff is so rare around here and way over my head in price that I have not even dreamed of touching a peice but do to the kind hearted Primitive Archery family here I am with this and no clue what to do
71 inches long 2 inches wide does not appear to follow the crown or grain
help will be appreciated very much
not sure where we are going but here we go
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Buckeye Guy on September 25, 2017, 05:42:59 pm
More pics
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Buckeye Guy on September 25, 2017, 05:44:36 pm
Woops same one twice
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: penderbender on September 25, 2017, 06:12:55 pm
First off good score. And second what kind of bow do you want? I wouldn't worry about the back not following the crown. Make a nice elb( not the Victorian kind) but more full compass warbow style. Only whatever weight your comfortable with. Have fun and don't be scared of it! Cheers- Brendan
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Buckeye Guy on September 26, 2017, 03:59:26 pm
Do I just peel the bark off and go ?
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: penderbender on September 26, 2017, 05:32:43 pm
I would just let it come off as it starts bending. Most should pop off when floor tillering. It'll give you a clean back. Plus protect the back for asking as it's there. Cheers- Brendan
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: mikekeswick on September 26, 2017, 11:47:41 pm
It looks like it will need a fair bit of straightening. Remove the deflex and sideways bend at the same time.
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Del the cat on September 27, 2017, 05:17:12 am
What the others have said.
Leave the bark...
The deflex is ok if you are thinking really heavy warbow say 120# it will make early brace a bit easier and can always be taken out near the end when there is less wood to bend.
Del
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: High-Desert on September 27, 2017, 07:23:15 am
Just a warning about leavinghe bark on....you will scare yourself many times as the bark makes that scary popping sound as it loosens.
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: DC on September 27, 2017, 08:13:29 am
Small sections of the bark will not pop off usually. I scrape the outer bark off with a draw knife and then spritz the inner bark with water. It softens quickly. Wait a few minutes and then scrub with a stiff plastic brush. It will all come off and leave you with a pristine back.
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: ScottS on September 27, 2017, 09:20:54 am
Don't look at it funny cause it dings and scratches far too easy! Make sure your vise is padded as you get closer to final dimensions. It's not Osage, but you can still make a fair bow with it.

 :OK
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 27, 2017, 10:56:20 am
Like ScottS says, it ain't osage, but it should make a bow!  LOL!
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Buckeye Guy on September 27, 2017, 04:40:54 pm
Thanks folks
now the big decision warbow or a nice comfortable shooter
Anyway  anybody have a chart of how wide vs poundage for elb
I have not done a ELB and no clue how much wood it takes
feel like a total newbe with this project
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: mikekeswick on September 27, 2017, 11:42:00 pm
1 inch will give a nice bow around 50 - 60 lb. As a starting point dimension.
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Del the cat on September 28, 2017, 10:55:09 am
I usually rough out about 30mm wide for normal weight bows and 42mm wide for warbows.
That allows some wriggle room to end up with the 1" that Mike suggests in the previous post.
This post from my blog details my rough out dimensions.
Note, if you are rough from a 1/4 log it can easily move a bit as wood is removed, so it makes sense to rough down in stages.
https://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/roughing-out-figures-and-technique.html (https://bowyersdiary.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/roughing-out-figures-and-technique.html)
Del
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Buckeye Guy on September 28, 2017, 01:21:54 pm
Thanks Mike and Del
Think I better get on over to Del ' s  site and do some reading wouldn't want to mess up my one shot at this
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Hawkdancer on November 03, 2017, 08:56:09 pm
Don't  know what I'm talking about, but maybe a flatbow, Meare Heath, or similar design?  For some reason, I like the Meare Heath pattern, worked 3k years ago, might be pretty good pattern, Hope to try it!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Buckeye Guy on November 07, 2017, 03:26:45 pm
Nice as this peice is I think I will go with an ELB that I can actually enjoy using so will shoot for a 45 lb
So if I do that can I rip a slat of the belly that would be enogh to make a baboo backed bow also
I realize that puts this under the wrong heading so will most likely start a new post
Just wanted to ask here first
Thanks for your help and kind words
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Del the cat on November 08, 2017, 12:41:38 am
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So if I do that can I rip a slat of the belly that would be enogh to make a baboo backed bow also

As you rough out a stave the slat that comes off the belly tens to be thick at the ends and thin in the middle. This can be cut in half and turned ends to middle and spliced and boo backed :)
I've done that with a couple of bits sawn off from the belly of warbows.
Del
Title: Re: once in a lifetime opportunity
Post by: Buckeye Guy on November 10, 2017, 04:08:20 pm
Thats what I was thinking
Thanks for your help sir