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Title: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 08, 2017, 05:44:10 pm
Here's my latest...

American Beech
Garter Snake skins (2 snakes total)
64" ntn
58# at 27"
Thorough heat treatment
Stained w/ dark-brown RIT dye
Cow horn overlays
Suede handle wrap
Leather arrow pass

This bow makes me want to start hunting. It's quiet as a mouse, hits incredibly hard and I'm pretty sure it blends right into the forest. I forgot how much I love this wood. It's one of my favorite white woods for sure. Thanks for looking.  :)
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 08, 2017, 05:45:02 pm
last 4
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: Morgan on October 08, 2017, 06:06:14 pm
That's a gorgeous bow. Well done.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: Marc St Louis on October 08, 2017, 06:18:31 pm
Very nice.  Don't know why you don't see more Beech bows.  I've made several over the years and I found it to be a better bow-wood than White Ash
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 08, 2017, 06:45:55 pm
Thank you Morgan.  :)

I hear ya Marc. I can't think of any reason other than not enough people have tried it out. I'm glad you like it.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: Parnell on October 08, 2017, 07:47:44 pm
Looks like a nice bow.  It doesn't seem like Beech staves are made available much.

Have you been able to spend time with any other bow makers in person yet, UpState?
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 08, 2017, 07:52:51 pm
Looks like a nice bow.  It doesn't seem like Beech staves are made available much.

Have you been able to spend time with any other bow makers in person yet, UpState?

^ I wish. I've never even met another bow maker face to face.  :( I feel like there must be absolutely no substitute for it. I swear I'm gonna make to Marshall next year.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: bjrogg on October 08, 2017, 08:45:44 pm
That's a sweet bow Jeff. I really like it. Those garter skins look great. I'm going to have to try the American Beechwood. You'd look real good hunting with that one.
Bjrogg
PS you really gotta get to Marshall. Bring the whole family. You will all love it. It gonna be a great time. The 25th annual
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: osage outlaw on October 08, 2017, 09:16:56 pm
Great looking bow!   See you at Marshall next year.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: Hawkdancer on October 09, 2017, 12:38:00 am
Real nice bow!  Not too sure the snakes think the same way though! >:D :BB!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: BowEd on October 09, 2017, 01:48:33 am
Good looking bow.Looks good to with the poundage you got from it too.Like the skins.
Beech don't grow here's one reason I hav'nt tried it.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: kbear on October 09, 2017, 03:12:14 am
Well now, ain't she gorgeous!
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 09, 2017, 06:36:13 am
Thanks a bunch everyone.

BJ, is Marshal on the same date every year? The earlier I know about it the earlier I can start to plan.

OO, make sure you bring that one-string guitar.  ;)

I'm happy that you dig the bow Ed. I'd be happy to send you some beech one of these days.  )W(

Hawk, your right about the snakes.  :laugh: They were moving into a friend's house and she begged me to get rid of them.  >:D

Thanks Korey.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: Pappy on October 09, 2017, 06:54:56 am
Beautiful bow, very nice work. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: leonwood on October 09, 2017, 07:16:08 am
Really nice! Good to see you picking your local woods! You don's see that many beech bows!
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: High-Desert on October 09, 2017, 08:20:18 am
What a great combo, and original look with those skins. Great job Upstate!
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: silent sniper on October 09, 2017, 11:15:50 am
One of my favorites of all you have made so far! Very nice work! SS
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: Knoll on October 09, 2017, 03:23:23 pm
Jeff ... Marshall is always the week/weekend of Memorial Day. You'll wanna get there no later than Thu, if at all possible.
See ya there!
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 09, 2017, 05:23:22 pm
Hey thanks again ya'll. It's on the calendar Knoll!
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: DuBois on October 09, 2017, 06:05:24 pm
Lovin those skins and of course all the rest of it too!
Is blue beech (muscle wood) as good as American? I have one gnarly wild stave I look at once in a while and then put it back in the rafters.
Marco
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: raylbird on October 09, 2017, 06:08:09 pm
Looks great with those skins, never see garter snakes long enough for that. Beech is my favorite wood also.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: bjrogg on October 09, 2017, 06:10:09 pm
Yes Jeff, Memorial Day Weekend but like knoll says the earlier the better. Most leave on Sunday a few of us stay till noon or so Monday. Last year we were pulling out on Monday and two couples pulled in on motorcycles to see all the bows but everyone was gone.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 09, 2017, 06:15:33 pm
Glad ya like her DB. I've tried using Blue Beech aka musclewood, but with no success. The ridges have always resulted in uneven distribution of tension across the back and... crrrraaaccckkk. I think it would be a great bow wood if you could find a piece with less dramatic ridges. I know trees like that are out there. American Beech is totally unrelated. It's really easy to work and performs great with heat treating.

Thanks ray. Each snake was a little over 30" long.

I'm going for sure BJ. Meeting you jokers face to face is simply not a thing I can pass up.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: Stoner on January 11, 2018, 06:42:29 pm
Don't know how I missed this thread. Great bow and love garter skins. I did one with garters, I would catch in my stone shop in MI. It was a catch and release thing. I would lay them next to a yard stick and if too short let them go back in the rock pile. John
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 11, 2018, 08:27:28 pm
Wow, thanks a bunch Stoner. It's funny that you found this one cause I recently gave it to a friend who grew up in Ghana learning to shoot primitive bows with his Grandfather.  )P(  He told me he'd been really wanting to return to his roots, so I gave him this bow. It was a great feeling cause he was so appreciative of it. Every time I see him now he tells me how much he loves it.  :)
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: Greenriverwoodcraft on January 11, 2018, 08:37:45 pm
Fantastic Job! You should enter this for BOM but if you do remind me not to enter a self bow this month because I can't not beat that
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: barebo on January 12, 2018, 04:57:31 am
When I was just starting to hunt at age 14 only small game was allowed. Here in Central NY, we had a lot of Beech trees and that's where most of my squirrels were taken. The ground was littered with nuts so they were easy for a kid with a .22.

It seems now that they have gotten scarce. I'd love to try it so may try to locate one on a friends property.

Upstate - Love the bow! I've been seeing your work for some time now, and your skill level is really impressive.

I'm in Oneida Castle - 20 miles east of Syracuse. We have some great 3-D courses locally. Maybe we can tote stickbows to one this spring?
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: kbear on January 12, 2018, 05:33:05 am
Upstate, can I ask; did that bow start out reflexed, and ended up straight, or started out straight, and stayed that way? How many shots have you put through it? It remains perfectly straight........ What is your tillering technique? Is this typical of Beech?

I am always amazed at this community's ability to produce amazing bows that show little to no set. And, I am frustrated at my inability to produce such a bow.......
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: redhillwoods on January 12, 2018, 09:28:52 am
I really love that bow. Great work Upstate. Can we see a closeup of the arrow pass/handle area?
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: ohma2 on January 12, 2018, 12:41:13 pm
Nice job with that.
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: upstatenybowyer on January 12, 2018, 06:34:05 pm
Thank you guys very much.  :)

Greenriver... 1st, I posted this bow back in early October so it's a bit late for a BOM entry. 2nd, your bows have some of the sweetest bends I've seen, so I wouldn't hesitate to enter them!  )P(

barebo... I would love to get together for a 3D shoot anytime!  (SH) We'll show those glass guys what it's all about  :OK

kbear... the bow started off with just a touch of reflex. It probably took between 1/2" and 1" of set. I think heat treating really did a lot for this one, and I most likely got lucky with a really good piece of wood. I always put at least 100 shots through a bow before posting it, lately much more. I always use Badger's no-set-tillering as a guide, and Beech certainly is a great bow wood, but I think a lot of it has to do with choosing an appropriate design for the wood, and for what you want the bow to do. This particular bow has a pretty low-stress design, so that probably helped as well. Don't be too hard on yourself. It takes time for each individual bowyer to find out what works for him or her.  ;)

redhillwoods... thank you sir. I actually gave this one away to a friend.  (=)

Thanks ohma2  :)
Title: Re: Garter/Beech ALB
Post by: bjrogg on January 12, 2018, 06:37:21 pm
Look forward to seeing you at Marshall Jeff
Bjrogg