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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: legend on October 10, 2017, 02:00:45 pm

Title: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: legend on October 10, 2017, 02:00:45 pm

Hello All ,
Can anyone inform me if there is a separate category / classification for Horse bows within the clubs / associations competitions within the UK ?  If so I would like to know a little more about it and if not What is the reason ?
thanks .

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: joachimM on October 10, 2017, 05:11:43 pm

I've never seen a horse shoot a bow...  ::) :P

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: stuckinthemud on October 11, 2017, 03:16:14 am

I found a 31 page discussion on Archery Interchange back in 2010, www.archeryinterchange.com/f335/grand-national-archery-society-gb-proposed-horse-bow-class-28929/ as well as several other long discussions on various forums

Don't think anything came of it because horse bows do fit into various categories (barebow, recurve and hunter, for example).

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: legend on October 11, 2017, 03:32:32 pm

Thanks .

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: PatM on October 11, 2017, 06:27:21 pm

There is really no reason for them to fit into any special category that they don't already fit in.

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: loon on October 11, 2017, 07:25:38 pm

I've never seen a bow that shoots horses...

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Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: Coonst on October 12, 2017, 04:26:22 am

Quote from: PatM on October 11, 2017, 06:27:21 pm

There is really no reason for them to fit into any special category that they don't already fit in.

Why not? From my experience they are more challenging to shoot.  In my humble opinion, putting them in other classes eliminates them from actual competition.

Coonst

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: PatM on October 12, 2017, 05:10:23 am

More challenging how?

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: Coonst on October 12, 2017, 07:08:37 am

When comparing a short and very reflexed bow with any "western" recurve, they are
1. shorter -> sharper string angle -> better release needed -> more challenging
2. no arrow shelve -> adoptions in the shooting-technique and/or you need better matched arrows -> more challenging
3. lighter -> more mass would make it more stable -> more challenging

And comparing a longer one, they have
1. heavier limbs -> less cast or more handshock, or both
2. lower braceheight -> again harder to match arrows and torque has more influence.

I shot hunting recurves, a Hoyt gmx with ilf limbs, modern longbows ... and I could mess up my style so badly while still hitting okay, but with my current short Korean bow ... nope, any minor flaw educates me. Comparing it with a selfbow, I wouldn't know where to put my money. To me, they are pretty close. The Korean one is faster, making up for misjudgement in the distance while the selfbow allows me to shoot tighter groups. There is no need to generalize my experience, just want to share it.

Coonst

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: PatM on October 12, 2017, 10:51:29 am

A modern bow or primitive bow could also have all of those "drawbacks" and still not fit this  made up category.

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: Bryce on October 13, 2017, 09:32:12 am

We have groups for horn bows, warbows and bows(which can be a bow made from anything really) if we sub-grouped every style of bow there would be countless groups.


And shooting a bow, is shooting a bow.

Title: Re: Category for Horse Bows
Post by: Joel Hamberg on October 22, 2017, 05:10:44 pm

Maybe thumbring shooting is a category?