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Title: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 04, 2018, 04:28:29 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/eOCgoWn.jpg)

Started a new 36 caliber southern style rifle from a blank.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 04, 2018, 04:29:56 pm
Got the barrel breeched and timed.

(http://i.imgur.com/FrtwfAJ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/FrtwfAJ)
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 04, 2018, 04:31:15 pm
Inlet the barrel and tang all by hand

(http://i.imgur.com/x7kATlm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/x7kATlm)
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 04, 2018, 04:32:46 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/WmuJdg6.jpg) (https://imgur.com/WmuJdg6)

Chiseled the ramrod channel and drilled the ramrod hole in the forstock.

(http://i.imgur.com/gN3Sdej.jpg) (https://imgur.com/gN3Sdej)
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 04, 2018, 04:35:48 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/PcYgqHW.jpg) (https://imgur.com/PcYgqHW)

Lock plate pretty much in now ready to start adding the internal parts and fully inlet the lock. Then its the trigger.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 04, 2018, 04:37:38 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/aVPTsrN.jpg) (https://imgur.com/aVPTsrN)

Starting to look like a slim trim Southern rifle. There will be a bunch more wood come off the front end before I'm done.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Parnell on April 04, 2018, 09:18:33 pm
Great pictures Mike.  Lots there to study.  Looking forward to watching the build.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Tracker0721 on April 04, 2018, 09:53:29 pm
Following!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: mullet on April 05, 2018, 05:58:07 am
Looking good.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 05, 2018, 11:08:49 am
Pea shooter .36's are dear to my heart, since my first flinter was (and still is) one.  They are certainly economical to shoot, both powder and ball.  But I wonder, sometimes, if that economy is lost in the number of patches it takes to clean mine compared to the larger bores.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 07, 2018, 11:18:22 am
(http://i.imgur.com/bH3Z5bQ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/bH3Z5bQ)

Lock is completely inlet and working, the sear is marked and triggers ready to inlet once I bolt the lock. This thing is close to being able to go bang, but far from done.
 
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 10, 2018, 08:43:43 am
(https://i.imgur.com/mjhKi5J.jpg)

Taking a little break from the real construction and doing a little thinning and sanding. There's some curl starting to come out now which is a bonus because I didn't think that this piece had any!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 13, 2018, 05:22:40 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/T6jJfBb.jpg)

Lock and triggers are in after a little readjusting! Took all day to get the lock and triggers to work but its all ready to bolt up and start getting everything buttoned up.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 14, 2018, 01:00:54 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/peHefpm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/peHefpm)

I love cutting dovetails by hand for the barrel lugs.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 14, 2018, 01:03:09 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/lId18Hu.jpg)

All the lugs are in and the stock is ready to pin. It was good to take a break from the wood work and drag out the hacksaw and files for a change.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Eric Krewson on April 16, 2018, 06:21:52 pm
Did you stain the glue you used to patch your lock mortis? I have heard abut it being done but no one says what kind of stain to use. I am looking at patching a bad mortise on a precarve.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 16, 2018, 08:45:03 pm
I used Pro Bed, it dries a dark brown. I think once Im done there wont be enough left to tell much. I am working on an overlay today around the whole raised panel. I wont do this mistake again! I was so conscious of where I wanted the ban in relation to the breech plug and the location of the front of the lock bolt not being in the ramrod hole that I didn't realize how low I had the rear of the lock. I don't know why I was so worried about the front because I never intended to have a front lock bolt, only the rear on this southern gun.
 Another mistake that I made but it worked out, is when I cut out the profile I got a little thin where the triggers go and using the double set triggers with that long trigger plate the angle didn't match well. I had to really grind down the front and back of the plate as well as the trigger bars. From now own I will have my parts on hand before I cut out the stock to make sure that everything works before hand.
Im building a 62 smooth bore now from a cherry blank and its going very well. Its been a challenge inletting that octagon to round tapered barrel!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 19, 2018, 08:22:12 am
(https://i.imgur.com/YPJAeqY.jpg)

Lock mortis now that I did an overlay and re inlet it
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 19, 2018, 08:29:31 am
(https://i.imgur.com/bIaD2ga.jpg)

Working on the side molding and going to make the side plate for the lock bolt myself next.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: chamookman on April 20, 2018, 03:29:52 am
 :OK
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 20, 2018, 01:00:44 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/HElemuN.jpg)

Ramrod pipes and entry thimble are in and I have started thinning down the front end.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Tracker0721 on April 21, 2018, 12:44:15 pm
Looking good sir! I love watching these take shape!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 21, 2018, 05:51:11 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Dx41vzr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bw0GNK6.jpg)

Got the butt plate on and ready to screw down and thin the butt
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: RyanR on April 21, 2018, 07:56:54 pm
Looking good. I can't wait to see this one when it is finished.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 23, 2018, 11:52:52 am
(https://i.imgur.com/PjUX0OJ.jpg)

Made the side plate washer for the lock bolt today
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 23, 2018, 02:19:28 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/5gyGeIe.jpg)

Made the patchbox lid today
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 23, 2018, 04:28:27 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/D3vdwMt.jpg)

Fit and pinned the ramrod tip.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 25, 2018, 02:05:56 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/oJMHmRb.jpg) (https://imgur.com/oJMHmRb)

Did a little shaping on the cheek piece yesterday

(https://i.imgur.com/E4Jcryq.jpg)
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 01, 2018, 07:42:36 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/iQS6piU.jpg)

Today I drilled and installed the touch hole liner. This picture shows the small cut in the face of the breech plug that the drill bit cuts as it drills the hole. You then remove the breech plug and polish this so powder falls in there easily when you load the rifle.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 01, 2018, 07:46:55 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/iinV6Ih.jpg)

Also cut the dovetail and installed the rear and front sights.


(https://i.imgur.com/nDIzTMe.jpg)
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 01, 2018, 07:50:30 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/kLctfsD.jpg)

Here is a shot of the touch hole.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Tracker0721 on May 01, 2018, 09:22:37 pm
Itís coming along really well! I cut my first ever dovetails in my barrel yesterday, looks like Iíve gotta practice more, yours looks good!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 05, 2018, 05:06:55 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/244f3dT.jpg)

Had to shoot it! Just playing @ 25 yards no rest, just wanted to see how it shot.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 07, 2018, 09:12:16 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/m8JdKhn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xUCpD2h.jpg)

Trigger guard is in. Had to do a little modifying of the front lug to make it be where I needed it to be, but it worked great.

Now I can start thinning and sanding this thing down! The wood looks like I shaped it with a chain saw right now, but its getting ready to shine!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Comalforge on May 08, 2018, 10:26:43 am
Nice job - I really like the stock profile.

Some years ago, I built a poor-boy Southern style, cap lock in 45 as a ball shooter - IIRC, it was 1-70" twist barrel.  It was quite accurate and a great offhand rifle; it liked 70 grs. of FFFg and a patched ball.  Went to an informal shoot with a group of fellows one morning and we shot all day.  I noticed my groups were moving up as the day progressed and I was having to hold lower as it got later.  Finally figured out that the sun was arcing straight overhead and the glint off the front sight was changing.  I loved that piece but eventually sold it because my eyes aged out and I couldn't see the front sight anymore.  Getting old sux...
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 12, 2018, 10:40:29 am
(https://i.imgur.com/SCBp3a6.jpg)

Got the lock bolt washer that I made in. I'm thinking about not putting the patch box on this rifle and finishing it up like it is. I never use a patch box and not all guns had them.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 12, 2018, 02:59:50 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/9s4Mo5t.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C1kBK1C.jpg)

Made the toe plate today out of an old hand saw blade, got it in and need to do a bit of tweaking with the screws and sides.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 13, 2018, 08:13:32 am
(https://i.imgur.com/YOjaOz6.jpg)

First coat of wood sealer applied. Going to take a break for a few weeks. I have a bear hunt and bow class in Maine to get ready for. Ill post the finished gun in a few weeks.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: mullet on May 13, 2018, 02:37:06 pm
That is gonna be pretty when you finish. Looking forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 31, 2018, 09:22:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/0eyF7zW.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0eyF7zW)

Got it done! Far from perfect but totally from scratch and out of my shop.

(https://i.imgur.com/GxdiLBE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0DbADs7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nCYJQrr.jpg)
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: chamookman on June 01, 2018, 03:22:47 am
Nice  :OK :-M ! Bob
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: GlisGlis on June 01, 2018, 04:39:46 am
it is a beauty. small imperfections will make it unique  :OK
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 01, 2018, 07:18:54 am
I really like the stain and finish on that gun.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Comalforge on June 01, 2018, 09:03:47 am
Outstanding job!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on June 01, 2018, 09:10:41 am
Thanks guys, Eric the stain is aqua fortice and a heat gun.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on June 01, 2018, 03:44:25 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/4G51H1r.jpg)

Two of the finer things in life. Longbows and longrifles! Two of my new favorites.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: mullet on June 01, 2018, 10:18:37 pm
I agree with you. Beautiful rifle. What did you use on the butt plate to age it?
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on June 02, 2018, 07:15:49 am
I used Laurel Mountain Forge barrel brown and degreaser.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: PaulN/KS on June 12, 2018, 04:31:55 pm
That sure turned out nice.  :OK
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on June 20, 2018, 09:44:49 am
(https://i.imgur.com/LdDXtg2.jpg)

My new Neal Brown bag and horn for this rifle!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: chamookman on June 21, 2018, 02:24:05 am
Nice !  :OK Bob
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Parnell on June 28, 2018, 08:46:27 pm
That all turned out beautifully...all of it.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 14, 2019, 02:57:43 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/NT2iJYt.jpg)

Had a pretty day to shoot. 3'' dot at 25 yards. The wild one was a ragged patch that cut funny and I drove it on down anyway and it shot crazy.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Hawkdancer on April 14, 2019, 07:38:17 pm
Nice shooting rifle!  You did a very good job!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on April 16, 2019, 06:37:17 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/XfGbc1T.jpg)
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Hawkdancer on April 16, 2019, 09:38:50 pm
Looks like ye barked him!  Squirrel stew for dinner! -C- (lol)
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Mike Yancey on September 21, 2019, 10:24:46 am
(https://i.imgur.com/K5r9RvW.jpg)

Its first squirrel hunt!
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: Stoker on September 23, 2019, 08:47:03 am
Beautiful picture. I'd say it's working just fine. Congratulations on a nice day.
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: gifford on September 23, 2019, 09:20:18 am
That's a fine lookin' rifle, and a dinner of squirrel, way to go.
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 23, 2019, 05:04:50 pm
Heavens to mergatroid! I better not show that photo to the new great horned owl I am working with. He's bat-house crazy for those tree rats! 
Title: Re: 36 Caliber Southern Rifle
Post by: PaulN/KS on September 30, 2019, 07:45:27 am
Nice bag of reds and greys.  :OK