Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Tim Baker on April 26, 2018, 06:49:29 pm
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Jim Hamm, of the TBBs, has just published a new book. Aimed mainly at beginners it seems. The title is Wooden Bows: What I wish I'd known when I started. Haven't seen the full book yet, just a kindle preview at:
The print version should be out in a week or so.
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Thanks for the heads up, Tim.
I've often thought of that subject.
Jawge
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I just bought it on my kindle. Im through the first chapter and theres a lot of info from a true professional.
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I can't not buy that. I think it's necessary to own every bow making book.
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Thanks for the heads up Tim. It's very reasonably priced, especially for the electronic version.
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George:
I've been out of the loop for a time so it's great to see you online again.
Are there other veterans of the White Wood Wars here?
And when are you going to write your book?
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Not sure it was ever so much of a WW war on here as it was on the wall. I'm sure you've heard Dean has passed.
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Just read the whole thing. Nice little book. Took up the entire grad ceremony I was sitting through
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I just got a message from Marc St Louis regarding this thread, suggesting that I read rule number 6 before I get myself in trouble.
Opinions anyone?
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I just got a message from Marc St Louis regarding this thread, suggesting that I read rule number 6 before I get myself in trouble.
Opinions anyone?
I was alerted to you breaking the rules by someone else
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I was warned of the rules too long ago Tim.Many different opinions on here.Kind of hard to step around once in a while.I'm positive you did'nt mean anything malice.Just someones' opinion.All this stuff comes out in the wash sooner or later.
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I challenge Mark's call that announcing the publication of another book on bowmaking is breaking any rule, and call on the powers that be here to make a ruling.
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I challenge Mark's call that announcing the publication of another book on bowmaking is breaking any rule, and call on the powers that be here to make a ruling.
Announcing the book is not the problem, posting the direct link is.
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Nothing more than a sponsor thing, Tim.
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Marc: You claim that telling fellow archers where they can buy a new bow book, giving other bowmakers such helpful information of this type is against the rules.
Again, I challenge that and call on the powers that be to make a ruling.
Here's another interesting new bow book. If posting this is breaking a rule then I'm in the wrong place. So let's see:
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Tim, The magazine powers that be and the need for newcomers to get helpful info are worlds apart.
Remember we already lost the board once to the subscription need.
PS All you have to do is mention the title. Everyone knows how to use google. Don't get all uppity about a technicality.
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Tim,
You, me or anyone else cannot promote sales here unless we have a "paid" classified section... You are promoting these books and giving direct links to sales...Why would you challenge an established rule of Primitive Archer...
Don
I have enjoyed Jim's writings...
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A rule that limits a poster's right to pass useful information on to fellow bowmakers is bad, especially if it's real purpose is mercenary. If that actually is the case here I'll post elsewhere, where posting such useful information is not prohibited. Marc has given me a second warning. Curious to see if the powers that be see the issue as Mark does.
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They do! The powers that be probably don't know a knock from a nock.
You're confusing a business with our unique hobby. The two are exclusive.
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Posting direct links to the sale of items that do not sponsor or support the PA magazine or website are against the rules.
Your basically advertising without paying any dues.
If you don’t like the rules then oh well.
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As far as I know, this is the most popular primitive archery message board; it's where the largest number of primitive bowmakers assemble on line. It makes sense that the place where the largest number of bowmaker assemble is the natural and proper place for new and valuable tools, materials, processes, books and such to be discussed, including where-to-purchase information. If not there, then where? So I'm puzzled that bowmakers would choose to assemble where their ability to post and receive the full spectrum of useful information is restricted.
Allowing such would make the site more valuable to readers, and it seems that as a result, more valuable to the owners, by encouraging loyalty, generating good will, and increasing participation. Maybe if that case is made to the owners they'll change the rule and allow full flow of information.
Years ago I declined the editorship of Primitive Archer mag because of similarly restrictive rules: they were a deal breaker for me then and are now, so I'm leaving this site for less restrictive pastures. I hope they change the rule. If so I'll be back. Meanwhile I'll be posting on PaleoPlanet.
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A few years back Tim took his ball and went home from Paleoplanet because it wasn't restrictive enough.
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Tim, The magazine powers that be and the need for newcomers to get helpful info are worlds apart.
Remember we already lost the board once to the subscription need.
PS All you have to do is mention the title. Everyone knows how to use google. Don't get all uppity about a technicality.
Remember Pat, Tim was not here when the board was locked up. Tim is flagrantly breaking the rules now and my guess is he will be posting elsewhere
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Tim,
Stay please. You have a lot to offer.
It is good to have you back. I always enjoy your contributions as do the newcomers.
Yes, I am still here. I know of no other site where bow building rides in the front seat so I'll be hanging around. I've noted that the second wave of bowyers are beginning to step up so that makes me happy.
As for the book, I've often thought of it but...:)...life gets in the way sometimes.
You probably don't remember but you are the one who gave me the impetus to start writing magazine articles. Thanks.
Come to think of it, I cannot think of anyone who was around for the whitewood wars. There is an occasional skirmish now and then but things are changing. Same with board vs log. If you wrote Ch 2 earlier I may have had a shooter much quicker. LOL.
As for the link, you gave the heads ups and the title of the book and people are sufficiently computer literate to track down the link on their own. The link is not needed.
I think Jim would understand.
Jawge
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Jim's site says that PA sells his books but the link from there to here does not work nor does the link on here.
So he's probably not advertising on here at this point.
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What does lining your pockets, and brazen self promotion have to do with helping people make bows? Is it ok to "pas it on" long as you get paid? Between book writing guru's, and the professional bow builders, and the whole "mine is bigger than yours crowd" it's no wonder why the enthusiastic support ya used to get is just about petered out.
Ya got to have a real big ego to join up and think you are above the rules, or that special exceptions should be available because your "special". It is a damned miracle that anybody ever made a bow without all those books ya all wrote, you might wish to keep your "knows all" entitlement a little bit more in check, but thats not going to happen is it? Shame on you.
Rich Rousseau
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Tim, please reconsider. I consider you to be an icon in the field of wooden bowmaking. If you leave this forum because of a technicality, you'll be denying many people the benefit of your knowledge and vast experience. That rule may be unfortunate in this case, but imagine where it could lead if its struck down. Don't let idealism rob us all of the great benefactor that you are!
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Glad to see Jim Hamm is still going ,I always enjoyed his writings ,the book looks great like said geared for beginners, wish I had it when I started , I passed the info on to one of my coworkers who has a interest in making a self bow ,and glad it's written in a hands on view with out a lot of useless info, I think it will help a lot of people get started !
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PatM,
Which Dean has passed?
Steve
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Steve,
Dean Torges, writer of "The Bowyers Edge"...
Don
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I was there for the white wood war, ,and enjoyed all the interaction of some great bow makers,, it was really a learning expereince,, and forced me to experiment alot on my own,, to back up my opinions on certain woods,, also force me to learn how to type,, :)
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This isn't the first time that Tim tried to have his way and pitched a little "hissy fit" and stomped off to another site. I left Paleoplanet because of him and haven't been back.