Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Taxus brevifolia on May 15, 2018, 12:07:48 pm
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Last time I posted an early-stage project, I ruined it before I got to floor tillering.
Oh well. That happened because I wasn't focused, not because I shared it. I see a real benefit to being able to share, in that hopefully you guys who know what you're doing might offer thoughts to help me do a better job.
I'd like to thank PA for poviding such a wonderful resource, and thanks to all members for the sense of community.
https://youtu.be/43STk03TUpY
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Are those billets that you are going to splice together?
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No, each one to be a separate bow
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They looked very short, must be camera angle or something. :)
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45" & 38.5" ntn
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(A) that is very very short. What draw length are you shooting for?
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Something as simple as a V-Splice, you’ll have a full length bow
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LOL Bryce, steering me down the rabbit hole!
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Can't I just make a couple Ishi bows with sinew? Pretty sure the dimensions are within reason
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Well, as I get older I get better at taking advice. Suppose I consider changing the plan, splice them...is it too late? I've already cut them for separate bows
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If the ends are at least 3/4” wide you can still splice. You can splice down to 1/2” but we won’t go there. If you want I can walk you through a simple V Splice that will get you a nice longbow to start shooting.
Up to you.
I used to have a sinew-a_ling but photo bucket ruined that
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I'd love to do that, but maybe with some other wood I have. For these two pieces I've been daydreaming about the way I'm doing it for some time now. I chose the lengths on purpose, from what I've been able to learn about primitive use of juniper for bows in the Western US. They generally went around a meter, some shorter some longer, right?
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Okay well I will do up the how-to anyways:) probably tomorrow.
The only thing about making short bows is draw.
Yes their bows where short, Bc their draw style was different. Not like our English and Mediterranean style. That we commonly use. The arrows actually shoot from the center of the bow and handle.
So if your gonna make a bow as short as theirs. I would advise shooting the same way.
BUT! if your natural shooting draw is 22-25” (nor.cal. Estimated draw length) then by all mean go all out.
If not it’s okay to make the same style bow in a longer length, and an off-set handle; for handle and bow balance.
Pre-Columbian N. American bows along the edge of the plains; most the bows that have been found range from 53”-75”
Before the arrival of the horse when the natives could actually start to colonize and have a nomadic life across the prairie. Which was basically uninhabitable UNLESS you could follow the natural resources like the bison and antelope.
Anyways I’ll get off this rant.
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I've been voraciously consuming vids about Ishi-type bows, I understand these bows are made to shoot sideways with palms up, I figured on learning the technique. I get that this makes for a shorter draw. I'd love to learn more about the bows they used in Southeastern Oregon, if you have any suggestions where to look.
I'm going on another juniper run soon, I'll look for a nice long one or a couple to splice. Come to think, I might get two good limbs from what juniper I have on hand. I've also got my eye on a dogwood that looks like a good candidate, maybe I'll do one green. I'm still looking for serviceberry. My yew & ocean spray will start being ready in January.
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While there is one video of a guy shooting his bow in that style,it is not known,if this was commonplace.No reason for you, not to learn it though,if thats what you want to do..The Bows in southeastern Oregon,were predominately Paiute, and Modoc..There seems to be various styles employed by the Paiute and ive seen evidence,of the Modoc,using a style,different than the style that is commonly attributed to them in recent years..My belief,is that many bows,that were documented as being from a particular nation,may have been taken in war,, acquired in games or trade items..
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I've noticed a few vids about shooting Ishi style, read what I can find. I gather it was how his people had been making them for at least a few generations. Ya I'm pretty motivated to experience making one and hunting with it. But I'm also greatly enthused about the whole body of primitive archery
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I've got a piece of juniper that'll produce a couple splicable limbs, I'm all eyes and ears!
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I've got a piece of juniper that'll produce a couple splicable limbs, I'm all eyes and ears!
Ok, been packing stuff up to move. I’ll get the pictures uploaded to imgur and posted here by tomorrow:)
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Yay! Thanks I'm looking forward to it
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45 inches is ok for sinew bow,, could be considered full length,, a 22 inch draw can shoot with decent cast and accuracy,,
and fun to shoot as well,, (SH)
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Yay! Thanks I'm looking forward to it
Sorry got busy with moving.
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That's ok. I'm still figuring out my bowyer bench design. The vise is unsatisfying.
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I’ll send you the link to how I learned to do it years ago. Just remember to triple check your limb alignment. And once you think it’s perfect, check again.
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I can't thank you enough Bryce, this means a lot. If not for knowledgable people like you sharing your experience, this craft would die out