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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Pat B on July 26, 2018, 03:41:48 pm

Title: New project
Post by: Pat B on July 26, 2018, 03:41:48 pm
I've started a new project that will be my offering for the raffle table at the Tenn. Classic next spring. Last year someone suggested a buffalo hunt and I thought it was a good idea. I started this last week and so far it's going well. I'm sure it will change quite a bit before it's done but ya gotta start somewhere.
...to be continued...
(https://i.imgur.com/JnY7QxR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZGUNrpd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/q0Htfyf.jpg)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: tattoo dave on July 26, 2018, 08:12:50 pm
Lookin pretty darn good so far to me. I’m sure it’ll be awesome when done.

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: New project
Post by: bjrogg on July 26, 2018, 08:17:36 pm
This outa be good. (-P
Bjrogg
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Hawkdancer on July 27, 2018, 12:32:12 am
Looks good as an abstract!  What is the medium? 
Hawkdancer
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Post by: chamookman on July 27, 2018, 04:00:37 am
That's gonna be cool Pat  (A) :OK ! Bob
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Post by: Pappy on July 27, 2018, 06:04:34 am
Now that is going to be cool, maybe I can win one of them someday. :-\ Thank you Pat for all you do to support us , very much appreciated. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on July 27, 2018, 06:35:37 am
Thanks guys. I'm looking forward to watching it progress. These things have a life of their own.
 Hawkdancer, it's paper mache, paper towel roll stuffed with plastic grocery bags for the horses body, wire for the man's shape and tissue paper and white glue. The buffalo will start out with a styrofoam egg.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Zuma on July 27, 2018, 07:42:52 am
Awesome! They already look alive. Tonka! Tonka!
Zuma )P( (SH)
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Post by: BowEd on July 27, 2018, 07:51:40 am
Cool project Pat.Ought to look really nice.I've got a sliver of horn for ya if you want for a horn bow for him to hold if you want.The horn would be black though.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on July 27, 2018, 08:04:43 am
Ed, thanks for the offer. I was thinking about a horn bow but looking for a piece of sheep horn or possibly elk antler so it can be somewhat authentic.  I have elk antler. Possibly sinew backed, 5 curve bow.
Zuma, you may have just named the piece for me.  :OK
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Trapper Rob on July 27, 2018, 10:49:49 am
Can't wait to see it finished.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: mullet on July 27, 2018, 12:39:53 pm
That ought to be cool, Pat.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: GlisGlis on July 30, 2018, 02:37:18 am
nice project  :OK
following closely  (-P
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Zuma on July 30, 2018, 06:26:55 pm
Quote from: Pat B
Zuma, you may have just named the piece for me.  :OK
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Cool, Dances with Wolves. Epic flick )P( (SH)
Zuma
Title: Re: New project
Post by: upstatenybowyer on July 30, 2018, 06:33:23 pm
That's way cool Pat. Keep us posted on the progress!  (-P
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Bone pile on July 31, 2018, 11:38:13 am
Well when I suggested a buffalo hunt I was thinking hundreds of buffalo ,lots of horsemen etc. By gosh you are on your way to a killer display. Let us have a peek from time to time.

Not Pat B
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on July 31, 2018, 01:51:47 pm
Hey not Pat B, glad you gave me the idea. Let me see how one of each works out first.  ;)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 11, 2018, 09:52:20 pm
I've done a little more work. The horse and rider are almost done with their basic shape, still have to dress and paint and add a few details. I got the basic bison shape. Will add legs then more details. Here are a few more pics...
(https://i.imgur.com/hr0RjTp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wtWtA3y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ETpxvKK.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/94sBN33.jpg)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: bjrogg on August 11, 2018, 11:12:36 pm
That's going to be really cool Pat. Thanks for the peek.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Hawkdancer on August 11, 2018, 11:14:58 pm
I think the correct  Lakota for bison is "Tetanka" but that isn't one of the languages I'm real familiar with!  Btw, the locale for the movie was shifted to the Lakota because the casting dept. could not find enough native Cheyenne speakers!  Minor point!  Too much culture being lost!
Pat,   How about a progress photo ( build along?) (lol)
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 12, 2018, 11:16:24 am
Thanks BJ. More to come...
 Jerry, I'll investigate the Lakota so I can get the horseman's cloths and decorations right when that time comes. I like the word "Tetanka" and will use that as the title for this piece.
 I'll also try to document some of the processes for you I go through making these pieces.
 My wife does give me technical advice as to proportion, techniques and coloration. She's an artist and has been doing paper mache figures for many years. I appreciate all the input she gives and the results are the affects I'm looking for in these pieces.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 12, 2018, 12:36:27 pm
OK, Jerry. Here is what the bison looked like a few days ago. Styrofoam eggs and balls with floral sticks attaching them. After shaping and covering with strips of news paper, tissue paper and diluted white glue the resulting figures emerged. The toilet paper roll stuffed with plastic grocery bags is what the horses body started out as. With tissue paper and white glue, along with floral wire for the legs is where it is now.
(https://i.imgur.com/aaF9jY2.jpg)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pappy on August 14, 2018, 04:38:47 am
That is looking good Pat. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Zuma on August 14, 2018, 07:34:42 am
I get the tongue, I get the tongue.  )P( (SH)
Zuma
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 14, 2018, 08:07:36 am
What about the hump?   ;)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Zuma on August 14, 2018, 05:48:02 pm



Perhaps if I were a bit younger >:D
Zuma
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 14, 2018, 09:20:12 pm
I put the legs on the bison today and will shape them and the hips tomorrow. When that dries I'll post pics. Will be ready for some detail work soon. It's shaping up pretty good.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Hawkdancer on August 14, 2018, 10:22:34 pm
Waugh!  The hump goes to the horseman to give to the widows and orphans in camp, or the pretty girl who he is courting's father!  Looking good, Pat!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: New project
Post by: bjrogg on August 15, 2018, 07:02:42 am
Still watching Pat. (-P
Bjrogg
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 15, 2018, 08:45:27 pm
I've got the bison looking like a bison. This is about how they will be set up on the final piece.  Will do a little more filling in on the legs then will add the fur and horns and the same for the horse and rider. .  Here's a few more pics...
(https://i.imgur.com/WAkAtlB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/7q4X5bf.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RC84Mbu.jpg)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Hawkdancer on August 15, 2018, 10:27:12 pm
Pat,
That is developing into one hellacious piece of art!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: New project
Post by: upstatenybowyer on August 17, 2018, 08:22:39 pm
That looks amazing so far. You are certainly a man of many talents!
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 17, 2018, 09:23:30 pm
Thanks guys. I did some more filling in and shaping up the bodies to give them motion and a bit more realism. I still have to add the hair and manes and tails then comes the initial painting. Things will jump then.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 19, 2018, 11:01:11 am
OK, here is the bow.
(https://i.imgur.com/uHs9xbz.jpg)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: DC on August 19, 2018, 11:06:28 am
Do you do all the shaping while it's wet or do you use a rasp or something when it dries? It's looking way cool!!
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 19, 2018, 11:58:10 am
DC, on the base forms(styrofoam) I shape it with a serrated knife or sand paper. Once I have that basic shape I shape the tissue wet with watered down white glue like modeling clay then cover that with tissue paper to smooth it out. Sometimes I have to go back and shave off an area that doesn't look right, a hump, etc. then lay more tissue paper over that.
 The bow is a piece of osage I chased a ring on(wish it was all that easy  ;D ) then thinned it down to that one ring, carved the back profile then with a candle I heated it to give it the bends in the right places. I'm going to sinew back the bow. The arrow on the bow now is a tooth pick but I will make arrows for it.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Hawkdancer on August 19, 2018, 12:10:13 pm
Looks real good!  Coming along nicely!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: New project
Post by: DC on August 19, 2018, 12:27:24 pm
One strand of sinew? Wouldn't it be nice it they were all like that :D
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on August 19, 2018, 12:48:18 pm
It won't be much sinew, that's for sure.
 Thanks Jerry.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Aaron H on August 23, 2018, 07:38:13 am
Great start Pat
Title: Re: New project
Post by: bjrogg on August 23, 2018, 09:27:20 am
Thanks for sharing this with us Pat. I'm really enjoying it.  (-P
Always looking for a new hobby.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on September 02, 2018, 01:05:00 pm
Got a bit more done before the painting begins. There is still a lot more detail work to be done but the initial painting really helps me see what else is needed. These are the last pics before the painting begins...
(https://i.imgur.com/El7GHak.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZN0wbnI.jpg)

 
(https://i.imgur.com/8YDQ8Mx.jpg)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pappy on September 03, 2018, 05:49:01 am
Man that is looking awesome Pat. Beautiful work.
   Pappy
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on September 03, 2018, 06:41:36 am
Thanks Pappy. Maybe the next one should be you drawing on a 6x6 elk.   (SH)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on September 03, 2018, 11:34:43 am
here are a few close ups. The last pic I have painted part of the bison which adds to the detail. This is only the beginning of the painting and detail work...
(https://i.imgur.com/oHHfL7S.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/t3GRHqV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LhthCUe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sCff147.jpg)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: bjrogg on September 03, 2018, 11:49:12 am
Really cool Pat. Thanks again
Bjrogg
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on December 13, 2018, 10:10:18 am
I got this project finished a few days ago. Here are a few pics...
(https://i.imgur.com/qVypdS1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/B5xCqYN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ajlJ1CF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kefguKj.jpg)

This will be on the raffle table at the Tenn. Classic next spring at Twin Oaks.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Aaron H on December 13, 2018, 10:16:45 am
Great job Pat, that's pretty cool
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Post by: DC on December 13, 2018, 10:29:58 am
Very nice, lot of fiddley stuff going on there. great job.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Ed Brooks on December 13, 2018, 10:35:15 am
Great job on that. That is awesome! Ed
Title: Re: New project
Post by: mullet on December 13, 2018, 11:36:28 am
Great job, Pat! That looks fantastic.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: bjrogg on December 13, 2018, 12:05:40 pm
More than just pretty cool Pat. That's awesome. Thanks so much for showing us how it's done. I love it.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on December 13, 2018, 12:47:56 pm
Thanks guys. I love doing these, as a matter of fact I already have plans for the next one.
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Post by: Stoker on December 13, 2018, 04:01:58 pm
That turned out great.
Is that a deer in the background or your target?
Thanks Leroy
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Post by: BowEd on December 13, 2018, 04:14:00 pm
Unique beautiful display.I like it.It says lot just on it's own without words.I imagine investigation into pictures for the display might have had to be used or did you go from the hip or your own imagination?
Ready for the sneak peek of your next project too.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on December 13, 2018, 04:33:02 pm
Ed, I do a lot of research on line for running horses, running bison, etc, print them out to use for the subtleties and details.
 Stoker, that's a deer target that has become a birdhouse, not my choice.  ;D
Title: Re: New project
Post by: osage outlaw on December 13, 2018, 06:12:18 pm
Amazing work Pat.  You definitely have a talent for sculpting. I'd be proud to own a piece of your artwork.
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Post by: upstatenybowyer on December 13, 2018, 07:26:52 pm
I've been looking forward to this. The detail on the buffalo is outstanding. Well, the whole thing is just outstanding. Way to see it through Pat.  )P(
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on December 13, 2018, 08:21:45 pm
Clint, it could possibly be yours for $2 if they pick your ticket.  ;)
I was very proud of the bison. It came out quite well.
The osage bow has 3 strands of sinew on thye back.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 13, 2018, 09:35:54 pm
That a fantastic piece!  There should be a lot of tickets sold for that!
Hawkdancer
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Post by: chamookman on December 14, 2018, 01:55:43 am
WOW - stunning  )P( ! Too cool - Bob.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on December 15, 2018, 12:01:58 pm
Thanks Uncle Bob.
Bow Ed here is the beginning of my next project...
(https://i.imgur.com/0Y1qCfe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/PEnjLqs.jpg)
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Trapper Rob on December 16, 2018, 06:58:17 pm
It looks great Pat.
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Post by: Pappy on December 17, 2018, 02:33:28 pm
Man that looks good Pat, beautiful work for sure. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: New project
Post by: BowEd on December 17, 2018, 04:33:35 pm
I see Pat...Looks like a good start.I'm gonna guess it's gonna be an archer shooting.No help from your wife now!!!That'd be cheating.....Ha Ha.
You still got some of that white stuff around too I see.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: ohma2 on December 19, 2018, 08:58:04 am
Outstanding Pat.l assume it will be at the next classic.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Pat B on December 19, 2018, 10:21:05 am
Ohma, yes. It will be on the raffle table.
 Ed, it is an archer but not like you can imagine. This one is a special project.
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Little John on December 19, 2018, 01:55:37 pm
Awsome work Pat
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Post by: Sidewinder on December 31, 2018, 10:53:07 am
Pat, that is so cool. I knew you were multi talented but man, thats good. Thanks for sharing.  Danny
Title: Re: New project
Post by: Zuma on January 07, 2019, 05:29:53 pm
Wow Bada Boom. Great talent Pat.