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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Badger on October 10, 2018, 12:05:37 pm

Title: Photographing our work
Post by: Badger on October 10, 2018, 12:05:37 pm
   Some of you guys have gotten really good at photographing bows, setting up the right backgrounds angles ect. If you ever decide to put a book together on this I will be the first to buy one.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 10, 2018, 04:33:55 pm
I agree it would be a great resource Steve. Maybe in order to make it long enough it could be a book about finishing and photographing bows. You could include things like choosing and applying decorative backings, handle wraps, tip overlays, ect.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Weylin on October 10, 2018, 05:16:40 pm
Taking good pictures of bows is hard! I'm always jealous of knife makers. One picture, bam! there's a beautiful knife with all it's details on display. I have to take at least 10 pictures of of my bows to capture everything I want to capture.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: DC on October 10, 2018, 06:37:20 pm
I've noticed that the guys that make the nicest bows also take the nicest pictures. For a while I thought that it was their picture taking ability that made their bows good. Now I think it's that these people pay attention to details whether they're making bows or taking pictures. They're exceptional craftspeople at whatever they put their hand to. They'll squeeze that extra bit of wow at what ever they do.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Bryce on October 10, 2018, 07:50:36 pm
I think a gallery attached to the users handle would be kinda cool
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Badger on October 10, 2018, 11:55:24 pm
   I think if I knew how to take better pics I would spend more time dressing up the bow for a photo shoot. I agree with DC, the same craftsman that put the work into their bows also put some effort into nice photos.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Weylin on October 11, 2018, 08:58:14 am
I think a gallery attached to the users handle would be kinda cool

Make it happen Mr. global moderator!

I've noticed that the guys that make the nicest bows also take the nicest pictures. For a while I thought that it was their picture taking ability that made their bows good. Now I think it's that these people pay attention to details whether they're making bows or taking pictures. They're exceptional craftspeople at whatever they put their hand to. They'll squeeze that extra bit of wow at what ever they do.

If you don't pay attention to detail on your bow and then you take sharp, detailed pictures all you do is show the flaws in high definition!  ;D

It really doesn't take a fancy camera and equipment to take good photos though. Lighting is super important. I take all my pictures with my phone camera. a little editing for light balance and definition goes a long way. I guess that's what a good camera would have done in the first place.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: leonwood on October 11, 2018, 02:23:33 pm
I don’t think is is really hard to do, it just takes some time and effort to do it good. Most people spend ages perfecting their bows and then want to take a few phone snaps as quick as possible.

What I do is wait for nice weather and take the bow to the woods and look for a nice place with nice light. Doing this in the morning or evening helps with the mood of the lightning. Try to avoid full sunlight or dark shadow.
I rest my bow on a branch I cut at the site and take pics walking around the bow. I try to picture the profiles of the whole bow and some close ups of the handle and tips ans some features like knots etc.

At first I used my phone but then I decided to get a “real” camera so I could take better quality pictures. For people who are interested, I bought a second hand Canon EOS 350D for 30 bucks. This is a 12 year old digital camera with a standard lens and I use it on auto mode so that is not hard at all.

If anyone is interested I am willing to do a proper photograpy tutorial or video so let me know!
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: DC on October 11, 2018, 02:55:49 pm
I'm interested :)
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: TimBo on October 11, 2018, 03:47:32 pm
Weylin did do a bow photography tutorial that can be found as a sticky at the top of the Bows page (not that we can't have another one!).
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Mesophilic on October 11, 2018, 06:53:49 pm
There's something artistic that some people have and others don't.   I have an amzing camera, if I'm lucky 10% of the pics I take will turn out good.  Whereas a good friend of mine has an outdated camera, less mega pixels, and an inferior lens...we can both photograph the same subject and his will  come out like it should go in a magazine and my pics are just high def  plain boring images.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Bryce on October 11, 2018, 09:08:24 pm
I think a gallery attached to the users handle would be kinda cool

Make it happen Mr. global moderator!

I've noticed that the guys that make the nicest bows also take the nicest pictures. For a while I thought that it was their picture taking ability that made their bows good. Now I think it's that these people pay attention to details whether they're making bows or taking pictures. They're exceptional craftspeople at whatever they put their hand to. They'll squeeze that extra bit of wow at what ever they do.

If you don't pay attention to detail on your bow and then you take sharp, detailed pictures all you do is show the flaws in high definition!  ;D

It really doesn't take a fancy camera and equipment to take good photos though. Lighting is super important. I take all my pictures with my phone camera. a little editing for light balance and definition goes a long way. I guess that's what a good camera would have done in the first place.


I’ll do what I can:) tryin to fill my bear tag these next few weeks ;)
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: bjrogg on October 12, 2018, 04:53:08 am
I think a gallery attached to the users handle would be kinda cool

I like that idea to Bryce. Always enjoy looking though Gallery.

I think both taking the pictures, setting up the pictures and editing and cropping the pictures are all very intertwined. I just use my phone. I'm always taking and deleting pictures with it. I've got over 4000 pictures on it. I often find it better to take my close ups not quite as close as I'd like . Then do a IMG. and save that image. Then I crop it removing unwanted area of background further shrinking image size but actually bringing image closer up. It seems to be the only way I can post images anyway. If I don't crop them even a IMG image is to large of a file.
I would also enjoy a tutorial on photographing bows, arrows and points. I read Weylin's and found it very helpful.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Bryce on October 16, 2018, 04:46:02 pm
I use a camera designed for wildlife photography, but most of the time you can use your phone. Phone cameras now a days are unreal. I then transfer all the pictures to my phone, it takes awhile since they’re HD, and on my phone I have a few editing tools. The ones I use to most are ; Aviary, Enlight, Photofox (which is an extension of enlight and has a noise reduction feature that I love), Pixomatic, and of course Adobe photoshop express.
Each one has the same tools but some work differently for each photo. And they also have tools that the others don’t that I take advantage of.
Weather it’s adjusting tint, contrast, or reversing the effects the sunlight has on the true color of the bow wood.
It’s a learning curve. But sometimes every little edit counts and sometimes the picture is beautiful being left alone and just needs the lume brought down -2 degs. And then it’s perfect.

Even with a basic editing tools you can adjust a few things and bring out some color. I played with this blacktail and pulled out as much color as I could without distorting the picture. Now it could definitely be tuned down a bit for better quality, but this just shows you don’t need anything too fancy to have good pictures.


(http://i.imgur.com/JvYNsfY.jpg) (http://imgur.com/JvYNsfY)

(http://i.imgur.com/ILesAVj.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ILesAVj)



Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Weylin on October 16, 2018, 05:25:18 pm
Cool pic Bryce. I agree, a little editing goes a long way to make an average picture turn into a great picture. I just use the editing sliders that are built into the photo gallery on my phone.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: DC on October 16, 2018, 05:52:38 pm
The top picture looks like a display from Cabelas. Super real :D
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Bryce on October 17, 2018, 01:30:44 am
The top picture looks like a display from Cabelas. Super real :D

I’ve tried to sell them some of my pictures but for some reason they never reply to my emails lol
The only ppl that do is ODFW and they only buy the ones of like turtles and stuff lol
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: FilipT on October 17, 2018, 02:02:51 pm
The best photos are made by cameras. Period. Phone cameras are good and I even have minor instagram account dedicated to phone photography, but this will never beat the lens of the proper DSLR (doesn't matter if full frame or not). You simply cannot take same perspectives and angles like real lens can.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Weylin on October 17, 2018, 06:04:45 pm
The best photos are made by cameras. Period. Phone cameras are good and I even have minor instagram account dedicated to phone photography, but this will never beat the lens of the proper DSLR (doesn't matter if full frame or not). You simply cannot take same perspectives and angles like real lens can.

I'd love to get a good DSLR. I just can't ever seem to be able to make it a priority to spend the money on.
Title: Re: Photographing our work
Post by: Bryce on October 17, 2018, 07:31:19 pm
The best photos are made by cameras. Period. Phone cameras are good and I even have minor instagram account dedicated to phone photography, but this will never beat the lens of the proper DSLR (doesn't matter if full frame or not). You simply cannot take same perspectives and angles like real lens can.

Maybe not but I bet if I posted a picture from my iPhone camera vs. my dslr you’d have a hard time telling which is which.
Let face it, phones are basically cameras that make phone calls